Originally posted by -K-M-
Has he appeared since Dark Reign? Well other then Worthy Attuma.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113173/3355590-hulk+vs.+atuma3.jpg
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http://www.comicbookbrain.com/_imagery/2013-03-28/leinil-francis-yu-hulk-5-pgb.jpg
Not my scans but that's the whole fight. Only time I can recall seeing him since Fear Itself.
Originally posted by -Pr-
IIRC, Aquaman has moved at a thousand knots, and regularly appears to take mere minutes when crossing oceans.He's moved so fast as to appear as a blur underwater (Pre FP), so the dude is hella fast.
Whether that's faster than Attuma, I really don't know; just saying.
Attuma is the equal of Namor now, so the question is is he faster than Namor. The evidence is not favorable.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Most recent depiction of Attuma I've seen was his appearance in Indestructible Hulk, I think it was last year. He was able to tussle with Hulk for short a while, punching him across an underwater kingdom, so he has some power. It was a short fight though:http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113173/3355590-hulk+vs.+atuma3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113173/3355593-hulk+vs.+atuma4.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/146504/2946382-hulk_breaks_magically_impenetrable_hide_indestructible_hulk_005_001.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/146504/2946383-hulk_breaks_magically_impenetrable_hide_indestructible_hulk_005_002.jpg
http://www.comicbookbrain.com/_imagery/2013-03-28/leinil-francis-yu-hulk-5-pgb.jpgNot my scans but that's the whole fight. Only time I can recall seeing him since Fear Itself.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Edit: scans 3 and 4 fixed
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Thanks for the scans, forgot about that scene.
It's not much, but gave Hulk a decent amount of trouble, more then I see Aquaman doing.
Originally posted by -K-M-
No he traveled at 20,000 fps as that's what gave him the bends. That was his limit going UP, not his top speed. He is against the constant change of pressure, which is what wrecked his body (Decompression Sickness). That's a lot different then going in a straight line in a constant pressure. 10000 fps UPWARDS is what he could do safely, same thing why Aurora and Northstar don't always go 99% the speed of light. If he had to do it in a straight line, without needing to reach equilibrium he could do 20,000 fps and above safely.This is the same principle why Scuba Divers don't rise too quickly.
The dialogue clearly states that he got the bends because he went up directly 20,000 feet, not that he was moving at 20,000 fps:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1876/aquamanswimmingat10000fps3pd.jpg
His current power level apparently puts him at 10,000 fps at full range.
You might be right that he could travel faster in a straight line instead of going up, but he wasn't moving faster in that scene.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanks for the scans, forgot about that scene.It's not much, but gave Hulk a decent amount of trouble, more then I see Aquaman doing.
Even in the animated universe he was able to take on Hulk toe to toe and defeat an Avengers line-up including Thor underwater. Since his resurrection he is being depicted as a physical powerhouse across the board it seems. He isn't a scrub anymore he just needs more appearances.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Can't really apply ABC logic in this case. Was it stated that Attuma is as fast as Namor?
In the absence of a direct comparision of speed between Attuma and Aquaman in comics, ABC logic is completely appropriate. Ths is the only reason why Namor and Aquaman's speed showing are being debated. It's the best information available.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Yeah it's not as if Hulk steamrolled him, though it was a pretty brief exchange.Even in the animated universe he was able to take on Hulk toe to toe and defeat an Avengers line-up including Thor underwater. Since his resurrection he is being depicted as a physical powerhouse across the board it seems. He isn't a scrub anymore he just needs more appearances.
Attuma was a complete monster in that scene. Even overly done.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
In the absence of a direct comparision of speed between Attuma and Aquaman in comics, ABC logic is completely appropriate. Ths is the only reason why Namor and Aquaman's speed showing are being debated. It's the best information available.
Namor isn't Attuma though. We'd need some sort of direct statement saying they were as fast as each other, or Attuma's own feats.
You can't just transplant Namor's feats in for Attuma's, even if you want to argue that he'd capable of such things.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
In the absence of a direct comparision of speed between Attuma and Aquaman in comics, ABC logic is completely appropriate. Ths is the only reason why Namor and Aquaman's speed showing are being debated. It's the best information available.
Actually happened in the canon JLA/Avengers crossover. Aquaman KO'ed him in a second with his telepathy.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The dialogue clearly states that he got the bends because he went up directly 20,000 feet, not that he was moving at 20,000 fps:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1876/aquamanswimmingat10000fps3pd.jpgHis current power level apparently puts him at 10,000 fps at full range.
You might be right that he could travel faster in a straight line instead of going up, but he wasn't moving faster in that scene.
I took it the opposite, because if he can do 10,000 fps with no troubles why would 20,000 fps give him pause? Basically it would take him longer if he was 10,000 fps but still be ok. If the speed didn't change then he should still be able to adapt to the pressure shift. Generally if your at a constant speed that can help with pressure sickness. Only problem is we don't know how long it actually took Aquaman to complete the said feat. Did he travel 20,000 in a second? 5? 10? etc.
Upwards again, not a direct straight light.
Not might be right, I am.
Originally posted by Inhuman
How strong is aquaman now-a-days?
I see him as 20 - 50 tonner. I know he has had a few feats that might put him over 100 tons, but other characters have had high feats above their norm (ex. spiderman, Cap, etc)
Honestly, I would say current Aquaman is a solid class 100.
He's flung a sub-marine out of water and lifted a sunk ocean liner in his current run. Not to mention decking Superman miles away in Justice League.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Namor isn't Attuma though. We'd need some sort of direct statement saying they were as fast as each other, or Attuma's own feats.You can't just transplant Namor's feats in for Attuma's, even if you want to argue that he'd capable of such things.
He's been granted "Namor's strength, flight and ability to breathe on land".
Attuma blasts him from a distance 😛
Originally posted by Inhuman
How strong is aquaman now-a-days?
I see him as 20 - 50 tonner. I know he has had a few feats that might put him over 100 tons, but other characters have had high feats above their norm (ex. spiderman, Cap, etc)
Aquaman's norm nowadays is comfortably in the triple digit ranges, I would say.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's been granted "Namor's strength, flight and ability to breathe on land".Attuma blasts him from a distance 😛
lol.
I can see where the spirit of the amp would be to make him Namor's equal in all things, but we still go by feats at the end of the day.
