Post-SWTOR Revan?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Pretty much.

But its canon that HoT >> Revan. 👆

Agreed.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Like, if it had KOTOR's combat system but still had all the skills you could get for any character in SWTOR.

..Yeah keep waiting. MMO's are like this for a reason.

Originally posted by Based
..Yeah keep waiting. MMO's are like this for a reason.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Pretty much.

But its canon that HoT >> Revan. 👆

Vitiate was weakened in preparation for his ritual!

-Lord Scourge, SWTOR

Yeah. But he was given time to recover, and if that isnt enough, the Hero would be weakened in the dark temple. It evens out.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
"Fold space was a Force power that allowed a Force-user to bend space to instantly transport an object between places."

So I guess that white light comes up when every Jedi dies then?...

Depends, happened with Sidious, happened with C'boath, happened with the Cyborg Jedi in Empire's End.

Indeed, plus the Hero fights through a small army to get to him in the first place.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah. But he was given time to recover,

and if that isnt enough, the Hero would be weakened in the dark temple. It evens out.

How do you know how much the Emperor was weakened?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed, plus the Hero fights through a small army to get to him in the first place.

Non-sequitur, Dooku fought Obi-Wan and Anakin before regaining his composure and fighting Yoda.

His power wasn't weakened by guards somehow.

Vitiate disagrees, since if you go to rescue your love interest he says 'you dissipated your energy saving the weak, there are consequences.'

Bro, his efforts to do the ritual were thwarted. He cant do it unless there are millions/billions of simultaneous deaths. You dont think he was doing the ritual while fighting the Hero, do you?

He was weakened to a large extent. However, Scourge states that the Emperor would recover quickly anyway, plus the powerful nexus that is the dark temple would weaken the hero.

Read small army. As in, more than 2 foes. Of elite honor guards among other things.

I've played the HoT and the Barsenthor and I don't recall them outright saying that they >> Revan. Can I get that link too?

Mmmmm, maybe. I don't really know you that well.....

Hey, I gave you the summary of the Taral V flashpoint when it was in beta.

Originally posted by ares834
That they are now making more money should be obvious... That doesn't mean it didn't bomb, especially since the game is supposed to have the highest development budget ever.

Malgus>Revan>>>>>>>>>>>HoT.

Vitiate was weakened in preparation for his ritual and did not have time to recuperate, that's why he fared better than Revan, that's the only reason. Not because he out-powered a being stronger than Darth Nihilus in the Force with a fraction of Revan's experience.

Originally posted by Dolos
Malgus>Revan>>>>>>>>>>>HoT.

Vitiate was weakened in preparation for his ritual and did not have time to recuperate, that's why he fared better than Revan, that's the only reason. Not because he out-powered a being stronger than Darth Nihilus in the Force with a fraction of Revan's experience.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I think GTA V tops that list.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Gta V has racked in some of the biggest sale's, but I doubt that it had the highest development budget ever.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Um... No... Hate to break it to you but Vitiate will always be above Revan canonically, as Malgus will also be below Vitiate. Give me proof that anyone in TOR era is above Vitiate.

Even so, the fact remains that Vitiate was weakened in preparation for his ritual and Scourge ensured that HoT would get to him before he had time to recuperate. Scourge had spent decades studying Vitiate's weaknesses. HoT's victory was the result of the exploitation of those weaknesses, no grandeur ode to HoT's supposed ">Revan" power.

Besides HoT, since everyone smart knows that HoT is stronger then Revan.

Revan>HoT. HoT had no experience.

While Revan was level 20, yo!