Post-SWTOR Revan?

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SWL actually has a point here. reallistically, the chances of a jedi so powerful to be born at exactly the right time to stop the Emperor are hilariously low.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Nihilus is an anomaly; not exactly (super) powerful. He is like a black hole who consumes all biota in his path.

Other than powerful enough to destroy planets and lift capital ships into orbit. 😐

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
HoT and Luke are two of the most powerful and influential Jedi in the mythos.

I believe that HoT was a product of the will of the Force in response to Vitiate becoming so powerful. In-fact, TOR era witnessed arrival of unusual number of powerful agents of the light to checkmate the dark.

True.

Yeah, probably. Eh, there are more highly powerful Sith than there are Jedi in TOR.

Anakin having a midi-chlorian count higher than Yoda did not mean that he was automatically greater than Yoda. Perhaps with more time, HoT would have surpassed Revan and Satele, but he's not a vergence in the Force, nor is he directly descended from a vergence so FoTJ Luke levels are out of his reach.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
HoT or any Jedi can never be stronger or even match Vitiate in power. Vitiate's abilities are unnatural.

Vitiate eventually reached too high with his plans and abilties and he was stopped by the will of the Force itself. HoT just happened to be the right agent at the right time.

That's true for Yoda's defeat, to DE Sidious' defeat, etc. The balance of the Force, but it has nothing to do with the HoT's greater power.

Vitiate was weakened - Scourge used HoT to exploit his weakness, as he promised he would in SWTOR: Revan. There's no reason to assume HoT is able to match the likes of Malgus, Revan, or Satele. Luke beat DE Sidious, that doesn't mean he was anywhere near DE Sidious at the time.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Other than powerful enough to destroy planets and lift capital ships into orbit. 😐

Nihilus can churn out immense power in his unnatural condition but he have no command over it.

"There is no strength in the hunger he possesses… and the will behind his power is a primal thing. And it devours him as he devours others—his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him. He is already dead, it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls."

Traya revealed that Nihilus would eventually self-destruct.

Vitiate actually is what a (perfect) Nihilus should have been.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Nihilus can churn out immense power in his unnatural condition but he have no command over it.

"There is no strength in the hunger he possesses… and the will behind his power is a primal thing. And it devours him as he devours others—his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him. He is already dead, it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls."

Traya revealed that Nihilus would eventually self-destruct.

Vitiate actually is what a (perfect) Nihilus should have been.

Er, no he does have control over it. He clearly does have control. Remember that he drained the entirity of Katarr... except for Visas, displaying a very good amount of control over his ability.

Traya was speaking metaphorically. Nihilus was still really ****ing powerful, he was just addicted to draining power and suffered in ways because of that. Its a different kind of strength that she was saying he lacked. There was no strength in his hunger because he wasn't able to use it for his own purposes. The only goal he could work towards was filling that hunger.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vitiate actually is what a (perfect) Nihilus should have been.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Er, no he does have control over it. He clearly does have control. Remember that he drained the entirity of Katarr... except for Visas, displaying a very good amount of control over his ability.

Actually, Nihilus didn't save Visas; she was a survivor whom Nihilus found when he was exploring Katarr personally.

As pointed out before, Nihilus could unleash immense power during his unnatural condition but such power was far beyond his control.

Nihilus is like a void in the Force; a machine which consumes all biota in its path to keep itself running as long as it can.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Traya was speaking metaphorically. Nihilus was still really ****ing powerful, he was just addicted to draining power and suffered in ways because of that. Its a different kind of strength that she was saying he lacked. There was no strength in his hunger because he wasn't able to use it for his own purposes. The only goal he could work towards was filling that hunger.

Nihilus would have self-destructed eventually. He needed to consume a lot just to sustain himself for a certain period of time.

Traya was actually the most powerful Sith Lord within the Triumvirate.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Actually, Nihilus didn't save Visas; she was a survivor whom Nihilus found when he was exploring Katarr personally.

As pointed out before, Nihilus could unleash immense power during his unnatural condition but such power was far beyond his control.

Nihilus is like a void in the Force; a machine which consumes all biota in its path to keep itself running as long as it can.

No, he spared her (at the end) :

YouTube video

No it wasn't. He had enough control to lift the Ravager off Malachor, enough control to defeat and drain Kreia, enough control to hold his ship together and enough control to easily dominate Meetra's team when she confronted him.

Yes.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Nihilus would have self-destructed eventually. He needed to consume a lot just to sustain himself for a certain period of time.

Traya was actually the most powerful Sith Lord within the Triumvirate.

True, but that doesn't mean he can't wield his power as he wishes.

If that were true, she would have defeated Nihilus herself. Its ridiculous to think she was anywhere near Nihilus' power.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, he spared her (at the end) :

YouTube video


Visas did not die from direct exposure to powers of Nihilus but she was unconscious and in bad condition when Nihilus found her. Nihilus then took her to his flagship and healed her wounds because he considered her to be good enough to quality for apprenticeship.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it wasn't. He had enough control to lift the Ravager off Malachor, enough control to defeat and drain Kreia, enough control to hold his ship together and enough control to easily dominate Meetra's team when she confronted him.

The feats involving Ravager and Kriea happened prior to events of TSL or even Katarr. At that time, Nihilus legitimately became very powerful. However, once he began to loose his physical body, his power began to diminish accordingly since he began to loose control over his abilities.

Originally posted by Nephthys
True, but that doesn't mean he can't wield his power as he wishes.

See above.

Nihilus's hunger reached such a point eventually that he could consume entire worlds at will but he also lost control.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If that were true, she would have defeated Nihilus herself. Its ridiculous to think she was anywhere near Nihilus' power.

Actually this is mentioned in an interview.

However, why would Traya risk confronting Nihilus after finding another wound in the Force who could do his bidding? This would be also safer approach.

He's dead, bro.

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