Heralds CIS off Battle!!! Who Comes Out as The Winner?

Originally posted by Digi

Lol at Kyle being here. At least send Hal...he'd be less of a sacrificial lamb in this context.

Originally posted by carver9
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So a pissed Thor denying his skull is him being koed? You have to do better than that. Everyone here has been dropped more than Surfer has within the past 4 to 5 yrs. So your point of Surfer having a glass jaw is moot.

This Thor was so weakened that he shouldn't be a problem for others. Surfer is all energy and not skill or strength, compared to the likes of Thor and Superman. ^^

Don't live in denial, as the thread starter, you should be better then this. 😉

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
This Thor was so weakened that he shouldn't be a problem for others.

This same Thor did everything up until the end of Fear Itself. Including fighting Angrir and Nul, killing the Serpent etc.

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As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, Thor had the wound when he fought Tutinax according to the time-line. mhmm

And nobody ever mentions this, but that story line ended with Thor containing a device that was going to destroy all of reality.

Originally posted by janus77
Thor's slower (much much slower), less mobile,

Maybe, but Thor's proven to be very fast in the past. As a matter of fact, we've seen Mjolnir leave Surfer in the dust or at the very least be heavily competitive with him in terms of speed. Mjolnir has just proven to be flat out superior to Surfer's Power Cosmic at this point imo. Sad as it is, it was heavily hinted that Surfer is actually afraid of the hammer in Fraction's run.

Originally posted by janus77
weaker overall (Thor needed Surfer to heal his wounds once)

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Pure fanboy delusional nonsense. Anyone who thinks Thor is weaker overall then Surfer is downright crazy.

Originally posted by janus77
and hasn't demonstrated half the powers Surfer's shown (in a shorter run at that).

Ironically, when they're side by side, Thor very often is the one who pulls the exotic feats out of his ass.

Also, Thor not demonstrating half of Surfer's powers is an exaggeration. Surfer is probably more versatile but Mjolnir can counter pretty much any of his abilities so it doesn't really matter.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This same Thor did everything up until the end of Fear Itself. Including fighting Angrir and Nul, killing the Serpent etc.

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As a matter of fact, now that I think about it, Thor had the wound when he fought Tutinax according to the time-line. mhmm

And nobody ever mentions this, but that story line ended with Thor containing a device that was going to destroy all of reality.

Exactly, so imagine what he would have done to SS if he would be at full power. Instead of a dented skull there would be no head.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
This Thor was so weakened that he shouldn't be a problem for others. Surfer is all energy and not skill or strength, compared to the likes of Thor and Superman. ^^

Don't live in denial, as the thread starter, you should be better then this. 😉

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Surfer outpunched Beta Ray Bill during the time Bill was destroying planets as a side affect of his fights.

Surfer overpowered Skaar, the same Skaar that was feeding off an entire planet while dipping in the old power. Surfer did this while going fist cuff.

Why am I telling you this? I'm pretty sure you knew it. 🙂

This doesn't include his fist fight against Ravenous...where Surfer fist cuffed him and blew up a planet as a side affect.

Surfer strength is comparable to theirs...the guy threw a star 2 yrs ago. His energy blast is over anyones here minus Thor and his durability is top notch; could possibly be the best on the field. Yes, Surfer can pull a majority here but I'm giving it to Thor.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Exactly, so imagine what he would have done to SS if he would be at full power. Instead of a dented skull there would be no head.

I disagree. Not that it would matter.

Fraction's Surfer was beyond physical form. He could turn himself into a non-corporeal entity. Making him a real b*tch to fight for anyone in this thread besides maybe Thor.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Exactly, so imagine what he would have done to SS if he would be at full power. Instead of a dented skull there would be no head.

Are you really trying to use that as a low showing bc you really dont want to go there. I promise you dont want to do that.

Now again, when has Surfer been koed in a fist cuff fight since his rebirth. KOED, not dented.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Maybe, but Thor's proven to be very fast in the past. As a matter of fact, we've seen Mjolnir leave Surfer in the dust or at the very least be heavily competitive with him in terms of speed. Mjolnir has just proven to be flat out superior to Surfer's Power Cosmic at this point imo. Sad as it is, it was heavily hinted that Surfer is actually afraid of the hammer in Fractions run.
Pure fanboy delusional nonsense. Anyone who thinks Thor is weaker overall then Surfer is downright crazy.
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Saying surfer was portrayed as being afraid of the hammer or that anyone who thinks surfer is more powerful than Thor is as crazy is just as fan boyish as anything said in the thread 😬

Originally posted by carver9
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Surfer outpunched Beta Ray Bill during the time Bill was destroying planets as a side affect of his fights.

Surfer overpowered Skaar, the same Skaar that was feeding off an entire planet while dipping in the old power. Surfer did this while going fist cuff.

Why am I telling you this? I'm pretty sure you knew it. 🙂

This doesn't include his fist fight against Ravenous...where Surfer fist cuffed him and blew up a planet as a side affect.

Surfer strength is comparable to theirs...the guy threw a star 2 yrs ago. His energy blast is over anyones here minus Thor and his durability is top notch; could possibly be the best on the field. Yes, Surfer can pull a majority here but I'm giving it to Thor.

So you take his fights against b or c listers for comparision? Well Superman oneshoted Imperiex Probes when serious, Probes that were teambusters, at the very least High Heralds like Silver Surfer.

Works both way buddy.

BRB does well against Thor but he will never be Thor. Thor does always very well against Surfer. IIRC Thor won most of his fights against Surfer, that alone speaks volumes.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I disagree. Not that it would matter.

Fraction's Surfer was beyond physical form. He could turn himself into a non-corporeal entity. Making him a real b*tch to fight for anyone in this thread besides maybe Thor.

Non-corperal entitys can be hurt by vibrational frequencies, t-vo and even HV is can be used in some cases. So Supes will be able to figure this out.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So you take his fights against b or c listers for comparision? Well Superman oneshoted Imperiex Probes when serious, Probes that were teambusters, at the very least High Heralds like Silver Surfer.

Works both way buddy.

BRB does well against Thor but he will never be Thor. Thor does always very well against Surfer. IIRC Thor won most of his fights against Surfer, that alone speaks volumes.

Really? Lets do this. Surfer fought Aegis, a Galactus level being alongside Galactus and held his own. He then fought two Galactus level beings at the same time, he was losing but he lasted long enough to defeat them. This poop on what you just said.

LOL...during that same mini, Beta Ray damaged GALACTUS. He was nothing but high end during all of that and Surfer won a fist cuff match against him. The same Bill that fought a Universal being to a stalemate.

I dont care what Thor won "in the past". I'm asking you who has defeated him in fist cuff since his rebirth. Is this question difficult for you? You are the one that said he has a glass jaw. Do you refute your statement? Let a brother know.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Saying surfer was portrayed as being afraid of the hammer or that anyone who thinks surfer is more powerful than Thor is as crazy is just as fan boyish as anything said in the thread 😬

I didn't make that up:

Loki's a very observant kid. 🙂

Also, he said weaker. Surfer being more powerful then Thor is pretty silly based on the evidence we have imho, but if he's referring to physical might, that is just outright nonsense.

There's a reason writers make Surfer fight like a moron "in character", because if he fought to the best of his abilities, it would take a skyfather level being to stop him.

Surfer wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Really? Lets do this. Surfer fought Aegis, a Galactus level being alongside Galactus and held his own. He then fought two Galactus level beings at the same time, he was losing but he lasted long enough to defeat them. This poop on what you just said.

LOL...during that same mini, Beta Ray damaged GALACTUS. He was nothing but high end during all of that and Surfer won a fist cuff match against him. The same Bill that fought a Universal being to a stalemate.

I dont care what Thor won "in the past". I'm asking you who has defeated him in fist cuff since his rebirth. Is this question difficult for you? You are the one that said he has a glass jaw. Do you refute your statement? Let a brother know.

Surfer lost, got it 👆 .

Damaged doesn't mean defeated. Thor defeated Galactus once and made him run for his money, so there is that.

You don't care because it doesn't suit your case and your highballing the surfer and lowballing anyone else. I understand it, good game buffy 👆 .
So brother, it's always the same with you, you got facts you don't like you say, oh show me something from this year, if you see something from this year, well show me something from this month. You are never satisfied, FACT is, Surfer was defeated by Thor more then once and Thor never by the Surfer. That's an accurate portrayal in my book and the comics. Like it or not, but you are not the one to say whats valid and what is not. 😉

Originally posted by carver9
Here you go debating crazy again. How is this going to turn into a brawl? Surfer have the fire power to put anyone down here. You must didn't read the comic where Surfer blasts was creating a black hole light yrs wide or him destroying planets, etc...you are crazy if you think Surfer can't drop anyone here with his fire power.

None of these people needs weakness exploiting to win. Surfer, Thor, Superman, and Kyle are powerful enough to hurt each other off strength alone, add in versatility and power output, this become outrageous with Thor and Surfer leading the crew.

I'm debating crazy because I said I think it would turn into a brawl? Lol ok.

And the second part of your first paragraph suggests that you think a brawl is fighting... without firepower?

Why are you acting like I said Surfer isn't capable of hurting anyone based solely on firepower?

I say Thor. Thor really can't lose this unless he holds back or go trading with supes. He has the greatest weapon in comics hands down, with the most raw power right on the sky father range. This aint the Thor trading blows with the hulk people.

Supes greatest weapon cant be used in this fight. Has Ss ever been blitzed? Thor is slow as shit but he can handle getting blitzed. Ss can blitz supes... And Kyle has tools to put supes down too. I love supes but he ain't looking to op like he usually do in this match up.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Surfer lost, got it 👆 .

Damaged doesn't mean defeated. Thor defeated Galactus once and made him run for his money, so there is that.

You don't care because it doesn't suit your case and your highballing the surfer and lowballing anyone else. I understand it, good game buffy 👆 .
So brother, it's always the same with you, you got facts you don't like you say, oh show me something from this year, if you see something from this year, well show me something from this month. You are never satisfied, FACT is, Surfer was defeated by Thor more then once and Thor never by the Surfer. That's an accurate portrayal in my book and the comics. Like it or not, but you are not the one to say whats valid and what is not. 😉

Stop naming fts 30 yrs ago. Thats all you are doing to try to prove a point. I'm asking you for recent fts and you cant name a single thing.

Again I ask, when has Surfer ever been defeated since annihilation in a fist cuff match. This is a simple question my friend.

Originally posted by carver9
Stop naming fts 30 yrs ago. Thats all you are doing to try to prove a point. I'm asking you for recent fts and you cant name a single thing.

Again I ask, when has Surfer ever been defeated since annihilation in a fist cuff match. This is a simple question my friend.

As said, you don't like it, it aint my problem. It's canon 100%. And you do the same with Hulk, someone saying asteroid?!