Turning CIS off doesn't mean we discard comic conventions that favor physicality over exotic versatility, or limit the realistic application of powers to create more relatable fights.
Most of the reason Norinn doesn't use his powers in crazy ways that would end-run most defenses have to do with comic conventions, and not with Norinn being some kind of ineffective fighter. The same is true for why weaknesses are not relentlessly exploited in every fight.
Frankly, Superman gets more of a boost with just CIS off than Norinn. Thor doesn't get that much of a boost, as he doesn't hold back that much versus high level opponents IMO.
It is hard to judge how powerful Kyle is as White Lantern.
Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Batman-Prime just curious on your reasoning for putting thor above surfer. I am not disagreeing just curious.
SS is powerful and the most versatile. He is a good blaster but Thor can match him there and beats him in strength and h2h skills. Speed is a nonfactor as SS is not a speedster, his travelspeed is like Thors but combatwise he isn't a flash. And most of all, Thor beat him more then once, while Surfer never bested Thor IIRC.
I think this comes down to Surfer and Thor. To many powers they can put into play that the others cant. Superman has weaknesses they can exploit. I think Thor can put Surfer down and is the better fighter. But Surfer can bring his high end stuff to play just a bit faster than Thor can so out of ten I would think
Ss-5 wins
Thor-4 wins
Supes-can take a win maybe even 2 but punching fast just isnt versatile enough here.
Kyle-leavin him out of this. He is either one shotted or one shots everyone here
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, CIS-Off does NOT turn a character in to a forum avatar.
Surfer does not need to turn into forum avatar mode to benefit the most from having CIS off though. He, probably to the greatest extent here deliberately holds back some of the more lethal power applications that he has shown to be capable of. CIS off would take of CIP as well and would free all those up no?
Originally posted by Naija boy
Surfer does not need to turn into forum avatar mode to benefit the most from having CIS off though. He, probably to the greatest extent here deliberately holds back some of the more lethal power applications that he has shown to be capable of. CIS off would take of CIP as well and would free all those up no?
We differentiate between them, but they do feed in to each other at times, yes.
I'm not saying Surfer wouldn't benefit the most. He very well might be. I'm just saying he doesn't become a walking powerset people get to play with just because CIS is off. He's still Norrin Radd.