Originally posted by Odekahn
You are on wrong on several points.• Your classification of "similarly smart" is a flawed over generalization.They are similarly smart in the sense of technology and science, but not when it comes to a mental game of chess. Batman has in addition: Psychology, Detective Work, Surroundings utilization, Paranoia, Anticipation Skills to the point of almost precog, and is a master of contingency.
• Bruce isn't outgunned. If it were standard gear only, then yes he would be outgunned, but Batman easily has access to advanced technology from Superman's Fortress. Phantom Zone Weaponry shouldn't be underestimated.
• The reason Bruce >Tony hand to hand is important is in the event any of Batman's plans involve exposing Ironman's dependency on his tech.
Technology isn't everything in a prep fight.
No I'm not wrong on anything. Your argument lacks any form of substance and hinges on Tony being retarded. Please tell us more about how Bruce will use EMPs to shut off Tonys armor and then beat him up with his super karate skills 😐
Similarly smart was me being kind as Bruce in terms of sheer intelligence is outmatched by Tony. He may have a broader area of knowledge but much of that will be irrelevant when faced with an opponent with far superior resources..and firepower. Which Tony does have. The core of your so called argument rests on Bruce's intangible advantages ( detective work and what not) overcoming Tony's clear tangible advantages. Perhaps in a comic where PIS would be at play but not in any form of realistic scenario where character actions are not driven by
plot. That is what the forum looks to simulate. Moreover in terms of strategy, Tony is no slouch and Bruce's superior strategy cannot bridge the weapons, tech and resource gap that exists.
Batman is outgunned. It is hilarious that your only defense against this fact is that he will go and borrow weaponry from Superman. I was under the impression that prep was utilization of resources in ones own possession. I guess Tony will just go borrow reeds abstract damaging weapons or go borrow a cosmic cube. That notwithstanding, even including Bruce's ability to borrow weaponry (lol) Tony still has access to a greater amount of resources.
Technology and resource advantages are vastly more relevant than h2h skills in a prep fight....That should be intuitive facepalm
Originally posted by Based
What's the basis of Batman's prep/strategy being hyped to Doom or Reed levels?"Soloing" the Justice League after they've told you how to stop them by using their weaknesses isn't really that impressive.
The only League member that told Bruce his weakness was Superman. And even then, Kryptonite is something that Metallo, Lex Luthor and a half dozen other villains have used on Superman without success.
Bruce is exceptionally good at prep, but Stark is better at tech.
Originally posted by Naija boy
No I'm not wrong on anything. Your argument lacks any form of substance.Similarly smart was me being kind as Bruce in terms of sheer intelligence is outmatched by Tony. He may have a broader area of knowledge but much of that will be irrelevant when faced with an opponent with far superior resources..and firepower. Which Tony does have. The core of your so called argument rests on Bruce's intangible advantages ( detective work and what not) overcoming Tony's clear tangible advantages. Perhaps in a comic where PIS would be at play but not in any form of realistic scenario where character actions are not driven by
plot. That is what the forum looks to simulate. Moreover in terms of strategy, Tony is no slouch and Bruce's superior strategy cannot bridge the weapons, tech and resource gap that exists.Batman is outgunned. It is hilarious that your only defense against this fact is that he will go and borrow weaponry from Superman. I was under the impression that prep was utilization of resources in ones own possession. I guess Tony will just go borrow reeds abstract damaging weapons. That notwithstanding, even including Bruce's ability to borrow weaponry (lol) Tony still has access to a greater amount of resources.
Technology and resource advantages are vastly more relevant than h2h skills in a prep fight....That should be intuitive 😐
What resources gap? Bruce can get anything he needs, he's a billionaire too. And it's not a matter of borrowing weaponry, it's how batman isn't afraid to incorporate said technology when prepping. (He used his enemiy's tech against the JL in prep)
And as for your last statement, no one said it wasn't vastly more relevant. If there was a comparison made between the 2 it was done by you and not me. I just said it's important, and in the overall scope of differences between Bruce and Tony, h2h is a credit (albeit minor in this case) for Bruce.
Originally posted by Naija boy
No I'm not wrong on anything. Your argument lacks any form of substance and hinges on Tony being retarded. Please tell us more about how Bruce will use EMPs to shut off Tonys armor and then beat him up with his super karate skills 😐Similarly smart was me being kind as Bruce in terms of sheer intelligence is outmatched by Tony. He may have a broader area of knowledge but much of that will be irrelevant when faced with an opponent with far superior resources..and firepower. Which Tony does have. The core of your so called argument rests on Bruce's intangible advantages ( detective work and what not) overcoming Tony's clear tangible advantages. Perhaps in a comic where PIS would be at play but not in any form of realistic scenario where character actions are not driven by
plot. That is what the forum looks to simulate. Moreover in terms of strategy, Tony is no slouch and Bruce's superior strategy cannot bridge the weapons, tech and resource gap that exists.Batman is outgunned. It is hilarious that your only defense against this fact is that he will go and borrow weaponry from Superman. I was under the impression that prep was utilization of resources in ones own possession. I guess Tony will just go borrow reeds abstract damaging weapons or go borrow a cosmic cube. That notwithstanding, even including Bruce's ability to borrow weaponry (lol) Tony still has access to a greater amount of resources.
Technology and resource advantages are vastly more relevant than h2h skills in a prep fight....That should be intuitive facepalm
I love you, dude. Really.
Bat-fans are seriously reaching now.
Re: Batman vs. Iron Man
Originally posted by Firefly218
I didn't find any similar threads in search
If each character gets one week preparation...Who would win ina fight, no holding back
During the prep time week, Batman sneaks in Tony's lab and sabotages all of Tony's equipment. 😎
But in a fight not holding back, Tony should get it, IMO.
Though sabotage and prep has done marvelous things for Batman.
Does sabotage counts as prep time under the forum rules?
Re: Re: Batman vs. Iron Man
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
During the prep time week, Batman sneaks in Tony's lab and sabotages all of Tony's equipment. 😎But in a fight not holding back, Tony should get it, IMO.
Though sabotage and prep has done marvelous things for Batman.
Does sabotage counts as prep time under the forum rules?
Bruce forfeits the match 😄.