DCNU Justice League VS WBH

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Originally posted by carver9
First thing, he starts off with an OMNI blast around his body. Second thing, a single punch from him did this...

https://imageshack.com/i/0i70848220j

You can't provide a single scan proving anyone on this team can survive this.

3rd thing, 3 peers to Savage Hulk was attacking him and he didn't flinch. Didn't move a muscle. Didn't even register their attack.

https://imageshack.com/i/1n39432975j

Now again, how does he lose this?

1. You forgot to mention that feat was a duel feat along with the red she Hulk.

2. Supes, CM or Flash could speedblitz him before he even does anything. This is a battle forum and not comic story which involves plot devices, so they will be fighting at their best and Superman isn't going to be slugging it out with Hulk. He's going to first speedblitz Hulk.

3. We don't even know if Hulk survived that planet explosion.

4. Superman strength is above savage Hulks, especially New 52 Superman.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Now I have to ask: This is serious ?

WBH will react faster than Flash ?

I didn't say Hulk will react faster than Flash. But Flash will be pretty much useless he can't hurt or BFR this Hulk.

But ok. Lets say WBH will be the first to act in This fight ( a thing that I really cant see). Flash can become intangible, then he BFR him. He alredy came to a conclusion in DCNU: if he fight someone stronger than him, the only way to defeat him is via BFR ( done against Grood).
So what your telling me is that Flash can go intangible and BFR anyone? It's funny how this never happens this could have been pretty handy against Darksied no?

I'm not sure why people start making implausible scenarios when it comes to speedsters when it goes against what they have shown in comics.

Originally posted by kgkg
I didn't say Hulk will react faster than Flash. But Flash will be pretty much useless he can't hurt or BFR this Hulk.

So what your telling me is that Flash can go intangible and BFR anyone? It's funny how this never happens this could have been pretty handy against Darksied no?

I'm not sure why people start making implausible scenarios when it comes to speedsters when it goes against what they have shown in comics.

It worked well enough when they dumped Prime into the speed force

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
1. You forgot to mention that feat was a duel feat along with the red she Hulk.

2. Supes, CM or Flash could speedblitz him before he even does anything. This is a battle forum and not comic story which involves plot devices, so they will be fighting at their best and Superman isn't going to be slugging it out with Hulk. He's going to first speedblitz Hulk.

3. We don't even know if Hulk survived that planet explosion.

4. Superman strength is above savage Hulks, especially New 52 Superman.

You can split that ft 4 ways and it would still be greater than any force anyone felt here.

Flash is a non Factor. His punches will not do a thing.

Them blitzing him would run them right into an OMNI blast that was leveling a city. No one here is tanking that and if anything, it would leave them open for a one hitter quitter. This doesn't include the fact that Hulk has hit speedster before and recently Hulk has been shown as a speedster himself.

Why dont we know if he survived it or not? Here is him and She Rulk in the heart of the blast without a scratch while everyone else was melting.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901484/Incredible_Hulks_635_005.jpg.html

HAHAHAHAHA... DCNU Superman isn't stronger than Savage Hulk. Savage Hulk held planet Skaar with nothing but brute strength. Planet Sakaar was twice the size of Earth. Planetary fts isn't beyond Savage, let alone any other Hulks that is stronger than him.

Originally posted by Odekahn
It worked well enough when they dumped Prime into the speed force
Wrong Flash also multiple Flash doing it.

Originally posted by kgkg
Wrong Flash also multiple Flash doing it.

It showed their capabilities to do such. Flashes don't knock anyone out one panel into their books either but that doesn't mean in a forum fight they aren't able to do so. I do understand what you're saying though, and while I disagree with you, I can understand your not being satisfied with that showing by itself.

Originally posted by carver9
You can split that ft 4 ways and it would still be greater than any force anyone felt here.

Flash is a non Factor. His punches will not do a thing.


Flash is not limited to punches...He can phase(Hulk can't beat what he can't touch), time travel, speed/kinetic energy control (if Hulk can't move he can't hurt Flash),etc,etc...

Originally posted by carver9
Them blitzing him would run them right into an OMNI blast that was leveling a city. No one here is tanking that and if anything, it would leave them open for a one hitter quitter. This doesn't include the fact that Hulk has hit speedster before and recently Hulk has been shown as a speedster himself.

When has Hulk become a speedster??? Or at least on the level of Supes, Cap or the Flash???

Originally posted by carver9
Why dont we know if he survived it or not? Here is him and She Rulk in the heart of the blast without a scratch while everyone else was melting.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901484/Incredible_Hulks_635_005.jpg.html


Thats not really explaining anything. They could just have better healing factor than the other people.

Originally posted by carver9
HAHAHAHAHA... DCNU Superman isn't stronger than Savage Hulk. Savage Hulk held planet Skaar with nothing but brute strength. Planet Sakaar was twice the size of Earth. Planetary fts isn't beyond Savage, let alone any other Hulks that is stronger than him.

No...Hulk only held the continental plates of Skaar, not the whole planet, big differences.

Superman on the other hand was bench pressing the weight of Earth for five days...

Originally posted by carver9

Flash is a non Factor. His punches will not do a thing.

O.o ^thisguy

Smdh

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Flash is not limited to punches...He can phase(Hulk can't beat what he can't touch), time travel, speed/kinetic energy control (if Hulk can't move he can't hurt Flash),etc,etc...

When has Hulk become a speedster??? Or at least on the level of Supes, Cap or the Flash???

Thats not really explaining anything. They could just have better healing factor than the other people.

No...Hulk only held the continental plates of Skaar, not the whole planet, big differences.

Superman on the other hand was bench pressing the weight of Earth for [B]five days...
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Again, show me this version of Flash, DCNU, doing anything you've mentioned. I'll be waiting for those scans.

He doesn't need to be on the level of anyone here since CIS is on. We dont debate based off powers, we still use their personality and on panel showings.

Why isn't it explaining anything. They are in the heart of the attack without a scratch while everyone else is turned to dust. That doesn't have a thing to do with healing factors since we dont see any damage on their skin. How about this, we dont debate on what YOU think, we go by on panel showings. I showed you them being unharmed, the proof is on you to show them dying during the attack.

LOL...are you still debating this planetary ft thingy.

Grey Hulk destroys an asteroid twice the size of Earth.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Strength/GreyHulkStrikingPower05.jpg.html

Vector blast was so powerful that it was capable of pushing planets out of orbit. Hulk powers through it.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/MindlessHulkPressing02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/MindlessHulkPressing03.jpg

I'm not posting every planetary ft he has. I can post him punching someone in the stomach causing planetary destruction. I can show him punching someone in the face affecting an INFINITE amount of dimensions. Whats the point? Planetary means nothing to Hulk. The thing about this is, I have NUMEROUS of showings, you only have one my friend.

You're not winning this.

Carver, calm down or you'll cause self combustion.

Originally posted by carver9
Show us with scans...show us DCNU Flash doing any if that. Also, Hulk has an OMNI blast around his body. Show us Flash going intangible via an OMNI attack.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8094189/Incredible_Hulks_632_021.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8094156/Incredible_Hulks_632_012.jpg.html

Here he BFR Grood ( which has Flash level of Superspeed and was unable to avoid):

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/Flash%20DCNU/levarforca_zps60918596.jpg

And I really dont understand why a omni direcional attack will work against intangibility. He alredy vibrate too a wall - it means, all his body become intangible.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Here he BFR Grood ( which has Flash level of Superspeed and was unable to avoid):

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/Flash%20DCNU/levarforca_zps60918596.jpg

And I really dont understand why a omni direcional attack will work against intangibility. He alredy vibrate too a wall - it means, all his body become intangible.

Good post.thumbsup

Originally posted by kgkg
I didn't say Hulk will react faster than Flash. But Flash will be pretty much useless he can't hurt or BFR this Hulk.

Cant see why he cant BFR him before he can react, since this Flash has femtoseconds reactions, and has calced to infinity in less than a second before act ( looking for the best strategy).

So what your telling me is that Flash can go intangible and BFR anyone? It's funny how this never happens this could have been pretty handy against Darksied no?

Flash only learned that in the fight against Grood. In Darkseid battle, 5 years in the past, he had no idea he could do that...he dont even know that aceleration force was the source of his powers, he never had heard anything about that in that time....


I'm not sure why people start making implausible scenarios when it comes to speedsters when it goes against what they have shown in comics.

Flash has BFRed a guy far faster than Hulk, without touching him. It happened in a comic.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Here he BFR Grood ( which has Flash level of Superspeed and was unable to avoid):

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/Flash%20DCNU/levarforca_zps60918596.jpg

And I really dont understand why a omni direcional attack will work against intangibility. He alredy vibrate too a wall - it means, all his body become intangible.

So Grood is as powerful as WBH? Four Savage Hulk level characters couldnt budge WBH but Flash is moving him? Yeah right.

LOL...thats not the same as vibrating through an OMNI attack while becoming tangible (have to grab Hulk some kind of way) and pushing him through whatever type of portal youre trying to bfr him in.

Cant see why the strengh of the guy Matter. As you can see in the image, what happen is a space time distorcion. If you are inside that area, you will be " teleported".

Carver, I think you dont saw the image. Flash never grabed Grood. He said he used the power of his mind. He dont touched Grood in the image. He dont have to touch Hulk to BFR him. He dont have to put him in any portal. Thats not how This BFR works. Flash "teleported" all that area, where he and Grood was, to Aceleration force.

Grood isent stronger than savage Hulk, but was far faster in This issue, and was unable to react.

Jla all day WBH is just a trans level character hes Darkseid minus the omega force or whatever the phuck

Originally posted by eaebiakuya Cant see why he cant BFR him before he can react, since this Flash has femtoseconds reactions, and has calced to infinity in less than a second before act ( looking for the best strategy).
femtoseconds rections? This Flash can't even go more than escape velocity without using vibrations. Also Flash was getting tagged by Grodd's goon and had to be saved. Lets not pretend that Flash is someone that can't be touched.

Flash only learned that in the fight against Grood. In Darkseid battle, 5 years in the past, he had no idea he could do that...he dont even know that aceleration force was the source of his powers, he never had heard anything about that in that time....
When he teleported himself and Grodd to the speed force it wasn't instant- Grodd was just standing there and they were having a convo before he was actually transported. Grodd could have escaped if he knew what was happening.

Flash has BFRed a guy far faster than Hulk, without touching him. It happened in a comic.
Hulk doesn't need to be faster than Flash he just just has to connect once.

Hulk annihilates

JLA wins. This is basically like Thanos vs the avengers from infinity. Except WBH has no generals to occupy the team. And WBH being significantly less versatile than Thanos. I wonder how the fight would have turned out if every powerhouse on the avengers bombarded a Thanos who isn't able to use shields, exotic cosmic powers and could only punch.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
JLA wins. This is basically like Thanos vs the avengers from infinity. Except WBH has no generals to occupy the team. And WBH being significantly less versatile than Thanos. I wonder how the fight would have turned out if every powerhouse on the avengers bombarded a Thanos who isn't able to use shields, exotic cosmic powers and could only punch.

World Breaker takes the majority in a random encounter scenario.

Few on panel facts:

1. Hulk didn't just blow up "a planet", he also caused Arm'Cheddon (a Herald Class foe) to dust simply from the Gamma Bursts he radiated.
For those who say that Red She-Hulk and WB's impact did the trick- my reply is "so what?"- the result is the same. Hulk hits someone "not Red She-Hulk" and mulches them while mimicking the same Feat.
The driving power level here was Hulk- and he can self replicate.
He also dusted Fing Fang Foom Wendigo, Bi-Beast, and a few billion powerful demonic beings.
All of them incinerated, and he didn't even need to punch them.

2. Hulk is the only one who survived the planetary explosion(s) *it wasn't just one- he repeated this Feat numerous times before he was stopped*; the fact that Hulk survived is quoted on-panel and can be provided as a scan if needed.

World Breaker is Marvel's version of "Super Hulk Prime"- he is more than capable of landing a K.O. on the JLA.

The biggest kicker for majority, is the fact that his bursts alone would hit the entire team with geometrically more force than any standard "enraged Hulk punch" has been shown to do.

I look at like this-

A). "Normal" Hulk (typical rage) is equal or better than Thor and Gladiator in raw striking power.
B). Superman is likely above Thor/Gladiator in raw strength; but they are not leagues apart. A knockout could occur on either side in a given battle.
C). World Breaker is "Normal Hulk" to the 10th Power. INSANELY boosted.
D). If normal Hulk can match Thor, and Thor is in the same basic "durability league" as Superman, and World Breaker is geometrically more powerful than normal Hulk...
E). Then WB, by simple contrast, should also be geometrically stronger than Thor.
F). If you take Thor and increase his power tenfold or better- he should own Superman.
G). World Breaker HAS that strength level by definition. And his Gamma Bursts allow him to hit every person on the planet at once. That degree of damage from a radius attack is an incredible equalizer for JLA power-set diversity.

When you factor in the actual character personalities at work (Superman holding back at first, no one knowing what they are facing at first, etc.)- the chances that Hulk will land a full powered Gamma Burst prior to the team understanding the scope of their foe is quite high.

And a single Gamma Burst that can turn a Herald Class Foe into dust is more than enough to lay out the vast majority of the JLA, and stun the ones who survive/cling to consciousness.

This is without even factoring in an "active" attack from Hulk.
A blitz of smashes from Super Hulk Prime here would likely drop any JLA member that tanks a point blank blast that can dust billions of foes at once, including multiple Class 100 heavies.

Can JLA win? Or course. I can come with a thousand scenarios for either side.

But if these characters acted in character; the JLA would be a group of high powered heroes with morality turned on who have no idea what they are facing.

While WB Hulk is an "already Mega Class hitter" that has been amped to ridiculous levels and has morality turned off. He doesn't care what he is facing- he is not holding back and he is going for the kill from the gate.

The JLA would not follow this mindset. And cannot afford the luxury of not following this mindset against WB Hulk.

Thus, this battle falls to the hands of the uber-boosted Gamma Doomsday.

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