Originally posted by janus77
Anyway, Mad Celestials instantly annihilate Thor. No time for RKT to even think, before he's wiped from all existence.
Yeah, there's no way that Thor can tank attacks from Celestials as Rune King Thor. It's not as if classic Thor got back up from Celestial attacks.
Or in the case, of Mad Celestials, the Fantastic Four.
Yup, no chance at all of him mounting an offense either. After all, Rune King Thor is no Human Torch (With a Cosmic Rod).
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Glad to see you're still as objective as ever.Tell me, can Surfer beat this version of Thor?
Sometimes that means I tread the fine line between objective and objectionable, but that's usually because others do not see what I see ✅.
Surfer? Sure, Crunch energies would be an instant win.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
RKT summoning the axe or trying to make another enchanted weapon in the middle of the fight (somehow)
It's a "SIMPLE" (that's the writer's own words) enchantment that YOUNG THOR was able to cast. The only reason it had the "bloodline" stip was because that was a safeguard that was put into place.
If YOUNG THOR can cast this SIMPLE spell, why the phuck can't ODIN or RKT (who was above Odin) do it on the fly?
Originally posted by zopzopExplain in detail Thor doing the enchantment
I don't get the phucking controversy.It's a "SIMPLE" (that's the writer's own words) enchantment that YOUNG THOR was able to cast. The only reason it had the "bloodline" stip was because that was a safeguard that was put into place.
If YOUNG THOR can cast this SIMPLE spell, why the phuck can't ODIN or RKT (who was above Odin) do it on the fly?
Originally posted by janus77
But would RKT survive The Crunch Energies? Proemial Gods couldn't do it.Surfer could beat RKT, utilising a one-time energy source, just like Sue beat Celestials.
I think the odds of RKT just massively overpowering Surfer to such a degree he wouldn't be able to mount much of an offense, let alone attempt to utilize the Crunch in any way are far higher than what you seem to be suggesting.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think the odds of RKT just massively overpowering Surfer to such a degree he wouldn't be able to mount much of an offense, let alone attempt to utilize the Crunch in any way are far higher than what you seem to be suggesting.
Originally posted by zopzop
I don't get the phucking controversy.It's a "SIMPLE" (that's the writer's own words) enchantment that YOUNG THOR was able to cast. The only reason it had the "bloodline" stip was because that was a safeguard that was put into place.
If YOUNG THOR can cast this SIMPLE spell, why the phuck can't ODIN or RKT (who was above Odin) do it on the fly?
Because it seems wildly out of character for one? Odin didn't start butchering Celestials because he saw the ramifications of his actions. I'd imagine that even if Odin decided "hey, why the phuck not?", eventually, the entire host would descend upon him and just raze Asgard to the ground.
Furthermore, if Odin was wise enough not to do that, RKT, who's wisdom extends to (relative, of course) omniscience, likely wouldn't resort to such a thing, either.
Believe me, I'm a fan of all things Thor/Asgard, but I really don't see RKT going "lol" and butchering Celestials in a random encounter with that axe.
Originally posted by zopzop
All you have to know is YOUNG THOR DID IT.If he could do it, RKT and Odin should be able to sh|t out SIMPLE enchantments like that at will.
Because that's what it is. A SIMPLE ENCHANTMENT.
You know those Asgardians are all Emo, lots of cutting and self-mutilation is involved in their magics! ✅
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because it seems wildly out of character for one? Odin didn't start butchering Celestials because he saw the ramifications of his actions. I'd imagine that even if Odin decided "hey, why the phuck not?", eventually, the entire host would descend upon him and just raze Asgard to the ground.Furthermore, if Odin was wise enough not to do that, RKT, who's wisdom extends to (relative, of course) omniscience, likely wouldn't resort to such a thing, either.
Believe me, I'm a fan of all things Thor/Asgard, but I really don't see RKT going "lol" and butchering Celestials in a random encounter with that axe.
Face it. The Celestials lose.
Originally posted by janus77
Maybe the magic required a practitioner whose balls hadn't dropped? Like singing castrato, before castration.You know those Asgardians are all Emo, lots of cutting and self-mutilation is involved in their magics! ✅
Originally posted by zopzop
Why not? It's not like they are going on a genocidal purge exterminating the Celestial race (even though they apparently can), they are fighting against 4 ROGUE Celestials in this thread.Face it. The Celestials lose.
LOL
Outside of Young Thor doing it, who's brash and reckless and not even worthy of Mjolnir yet, there's really no evidence that either Odin or RKT would do it if they're even remotely in character.
Maybe if you gave them prep or something, I could possibly see it. But in a straight up fight, with the Celestials intending to destroy them from the get go? Nah.
I just don't see how you can attribute the actions to a reckless young Thor (the ramifications of which are still being played out) on to his much wiser father and his all-knowing and powerful older self.
Originally posted by zopzopSo you have no idea how the enchantment was done, yet you think it's a viable strategy? It could have taken weeks to do. It could have needed the entirely extinct blood of a hippo, it could have needed anything. But you think just because the word "simple" was in it, it was an instant enchantment?
All you have to know is YOUNG THOR DID IT.If he could do it, RKT and Odin should be able to sh|t out SIMPLE enchantments like that at will.
Because that's what it is. A SIMPLE ENCHANTMENT.
Also, the enchantment only allows you to pierce the armor. Which means he'd have to create an axe, and do the enchantment in the middle of battle.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So you have no idea how the enchantment was done, yet you think it's a viable strategy? It could have taken weeks to do. It could have needed the entirely extinct blood of a hippo, it could have needed anything. But you think just because the word "simple" was in it, it was an instant enchantment?
Really? The only stated requirement was the blood of Odin and no large passage of time was indicated. It seemed that he went after Apocalypse soon after their first battle.
Based on what we know, and we've seen before, the most logical assumption is that a few runes are recited as you spill blood over the item in question. I say a few because it was called a simple enchantment and Thor isn't known for his spell casting, especially that incarnation of Thor.
Sure, you can assume it needed the sperm of the Living Tribunal or something but that seems somewhat unlikely imo.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Outside of Young Thor doing it, who's brash and reckless and not even worthy of Mjolnir yet, there's really no evidence that either Odin or RKT would do it if they're even remotely in character.Maybe if you gave them prep or something, I could possibly see it. But in a straight up fight, with the Celestials intending to destroy them from the get go? Nah.
I just don't see how you can attribute the actions to a reckless young Thor (the ramifications of which are still being played out) on to his much wiser father and his all-knowing and powerful older self.
Jake, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD, the greater ramifications of Celestial slaying don't count because :
a) it's vs FOUR SPECIFIC ONES that aren't even native to 616 reality
b) these FOUR SPECIFIC Celestials are "Rogue"
c) this is a VS thread so greater ramifications be damned, each side is in it to win it
And if THING, FREAKING THING, survived multiple Rogue Celestials attacking him, I'm sure no one on the opposing team in this thread is gonna wilt and die from a blast or two from the Rogues. Sh|t, normal Thor took multiple Celestial blasts before falling down and he was still conscious and fighting.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So you have no idea how the enchantment was done, yet you think it's a viable strategy? It could have taken weeks to do. It could have needed the entirely extinct blood of a hippo, it could have needed anything. But you think just because the word "simple" was in it, it was an instant enchantment?Also, the enchantment only allows you to pierce the armor. Which means he'd have to create an axe, and do the enchantment in the middle of battle.