Mad Celestials vs RKT

Started by Epicurus6 pages

Originally posted by janus77
Ah, well ... Did Apocalypse twins do any mojo on the axe, was there anything to the scene other than just the axing?

I don't read Thor, but will have to look up the scans of this.


They just stole it from Kang. That's all.

Originally posted by janus77
That scan has a lot of iffiness about it. It's Kang calling an enchantment "simple", not the same thing as Thor or even RKT finding it simple.

Lol.

Fyi, Young Thor went on to cast that enchantment.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

Fyi, Young Thor went on to cast that enchantment.


Yes, wasn't arguing that. Just pointing out that Kang was calling it simple, that he was giving his condescending opinion on the matter, not stating it as objective fact.

Thor might have had to ponder, to seek further aid and explanation, for all that scan suggests on the matter.

Originally posted by Epicurus
They just stole it from Kang. That's all.

horrible.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Okay. But do you honestly think that them using the Jarnbjorn hex in this thread is a viable tactic? I would have no problems with it if the OP allowed it. Heck, I'd probably give Volstagg the win against any Celestial if he were equipped with a weapon like that.

I think it's a safe assumption that the spell is not complicated and is some phrase in conjunction with blood. It's probably something like this but instead of a cup, on whatever item you want to enchant:

With that assumption, I don't understand why it isn't a possibility. Especially since we're dealing with beings who can do pretty much whatever they want and don't even have to physically cut their skin to draw blood.

Originally posted by janus77
Yes, wasn't arguing that. Just pointing out that Kang was calling it simple, that he was giving his condescending opinion on the matter, not stating it as objective fact.

Thor might have had to ponder, to seek further aid and explanation, for all that scan suggests on the matter.

😬

Kang was clearly calling it a simple spell:
http://postimg.org/image/osxy42t39/

Help? Thor was in a rush and Odin forbade using the spell. I wish Remender had shown the actual casting. It gives us all the information needed to guess what happened but comic book boards by their nature are so anal about such details.

Is the axed Celestials stuff canon to 616?
It's dealing with a "young Thor" after all.

Originally posted by janus77
Is the axed Celestials stuff canon to 616?
It's dealing with a "young Thor" after all.

Why would it be anything else other then canon?

The amount of gymnastics attempted to invalidate such a simple scene is mind boggling.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why would it be anything else other then canon?

The amount of gymnastics attempted to invalidate such a simple scene is mind boggling.


Well, simply because it's talking about things that have not existed in the timeline we've seen to date, nor had any impact on the current timeline.

Originally posted by janus77
Well, simply because it's talking about things that have not existed in the timeline we've seen to date, nor had any impact on the current timeline.

***cough***Sh|tty Marvel writers***cough***

Originally posted by janus77
Well, simply because it's talking about things that have not existed in the timeline we've seen to date, nor had any impact on the current timeline.

What? The current Uncanny Avengers arc revolves around Thor's Celestial killing axe.

Revealing stuff that we did not know before happens literally all the time in comics.

I predict the Celestials will shove that axe up somebody's arse before the arc is over.

Originally posted by janus77
Is the axed Celestials stuff canon to 616?
It's dealing with a "young Thor" after all.

The story is taking place in the current 616-timeline. The young Thor stuff was more or less a flashback to his first encounter with Apocalypse millennia ago and how Jarnbjorn was forged as a result.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think it's a safe assumption that the spell is not complicated and is some phrase in conjunction with blood. It's probably something like this but instead of a cup, on whatever item you want to enchant:

With that assumption, I don't understand why it isn't a possibility. Especially since we're dealing with beings who can do pretty much whatever they want and don't even have to physically cut their skin to draw blood.


I am not talking about the efficacy of the spell(which we don't know anything about yet), I am talking about it being a viable tactic in this thread, seeing how haxed and plot devicey the spell and the axe are to begin with. Because by that logic we can go about claiming that the MCs simply teleport other Celestials into the battlefield, the most obvious and notable example being Scathan.

wait, wait, i got this. king thor has at least one superspeed combat feat. odin has galaxy busting power. celestials have NO speed feats whatever. they'd be statues to rkt who is above both odin and king thor. so obviously it follows that: (a) rkt casts his spell at superspeed and kills them via PIS power, or (b) flat out blitzes them before they can react with galaxy+ level attacks which kills them because they have been shown to be affected by much less than that.

either way, the celestials are well and truly f'd in this thread. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
wait, wait, i got this. king thor has at least one superspeed combat feat. odin has galaxy busting power. celestials have NO speed feats whatever. they'd be statues to rkt who is above both odin and king thor. so obviously it follows that: (a) rkt casts his spell at superspeed and kills them via PIS power, or (b) flat out blitzes them before they can react with galaxy+ level attacks which kills them because they have been shown to be affected by much less than that.

either way, the celestials are well and truly f'd in this thread. 😖hifty:


Somebody check if Leo is alright or something.

fear

I was going to say Celestials but Leo convinced me RKT takes this. Superspeed and a million baztillions galaxybusting attacks in a picosecond FTW!

Originally posted by leonidas
wait, wait, i got this. king thor has at least one superspeed combat feat. odin has galaxy busting power. celestials have NO speed feats whatever. they'd be statues to rkt who is above both odin and king thor. so obviously it follows that: (a) rkt casts his spell at superspeed and kills them via PIS power, or (b) flat out blitzes them before they can react with galaxy+ level attacks which kills them because they have been shown to be affected by much less than that.

either way, the celestials are well and truly f'd in this thread. 😖hifty:


This is, without a shadow of a doubt, the most logical post made so far in this thread. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
wait, wait, i got this. king thor has at least one superspeed combat feat. odin has galaxy busting power. celestials have NO speed feats whatever. they'd be statues to rkt who is above both odin and king thor. so obviously it follows that: (a) rkt casts his spell at superspeed and kills them via PIS power, or (b) flat out blitzes them before they can react with galaxy+ level attacks which kills them because they have been shown to be affected by much less than that.

either way, the celestials are well and truly f'd in this thread. 😖hifty:

👆