Combat speed

Started by Rao Kal El22 pages
Originally posted by carver9
That was a blitz but a blitz that was led by SB attacking someone else. Flash couldn't blitz him because he seen Flash coming...he didn't see Superman because he was preoccupied fighting someone else.

You can also notice that Starbreaker was caught by surprise by the flash, on the first panel 😉

in any case this is not the be all end all of Superman's combat speed scans. there are several scans that show that he can react to light. He has the senses and the reflexes to do it.

BTW since you saif Thor is 50 what combat speed will you give to the Hulk?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
On the terms that it was delivered at speed yes.

The desired END RESULT, not so much.

If We had Quicksilver trying to blitz Superman before Spiderman and Superman just takes out Quicksilver in mid blitz and then Spiderman lands a blitz on Superman Wouldn't you said that Spiderman landed successfully a blitz where Quicksilver didn't?

That just means Spiderman was able to land an unsuccessful blitz while quicksilver was incapable of landing a blitz.Being "able to" do a task and being "successful in" doing a task are still different from one another.

1.Spiderman was able to do an unsuccessful blitz on Superman.=Spiderman did land a blitz but the end result was unsuccessful.

2.Superman was successful in doing a blitz on Mongul.=Superman succeeded in landing a blitz since Mongul got phucked as an end result.

This is what I meant in my post.Hope you understand what I'm trying to say 😎

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You can also notice that Starbreaker was caught by surprise by the flash, on the first panel 😉

in any case this is not the be all end all of Superman's combat speed scans. there are several scans that show that he can react to light. He has the senses and the reflexes to do it.

BTW since you saif Thor is 50 what combat speed will you give to the Hulk?

Naah, he seen Flash coming which gave him the opportunity to counter attack. Same didn't happen with Superman.

I don't know where I would rank Hulk...he is a true speedster to the point where Super speed hero's are on the battle field but people are acknowledging Hulks speed over the other speedsters.

Hulk isn't in Superman's league. At all.

Nor is he in this thread.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hulk isn't in Superman's league. At all.

Nor is he in this thread.

I know. It's still a mystery on his speed though.

Yep...Rao asked me.

Originally posted by carver9
I know. It's still a mystery on his speed though.

Yep...Rao asked me.

Doesn't matter.

He should know better.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That villain in the next issue killed a guy who was holding two universes together.
Actually, Dharma completely recreated the Milestone universe and was in the process of seamlessly merging it with the mainstream DCU when Starbreaker attacked him-- that's why he wasn't powerful enough to defeat 'breaker at the time. However, it was ultimately all part of Dharma's grand plan:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17287762/22.jpg.html
"I had neither the spare power to destroy him or time to give to the project, but I did set in motion the chain of events that led us here."

Regardless, Starbreaker's attack on Dharma did damage continuity itself to an extent:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17287795/23.jpg.html
So yeah...

Originally posted by Galan007
Actually, Dharma completely recreated the Milestone universe and was in the process of seamlessly merging it with the mainstream DCU when Starbreaker attacked him-- that's why he wasn't powerful enough to defeat 'breaker at the time. However, it was ultimately all part of Dharma's grand plan:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17287762/22.jpg.html
"I had neither the spare power to destroy him or time to give to the project, but I did set in motion the chain of events that led us here."

Regardless, Starbreaker's attack on Dharma did damage continuity itself to an extent:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17287795/23.jpg.html
So yeah...

👆

Originally posted by Igniz
That just means Spiderman was able to land an unsuccessful blitz while quicksilver was incapable of landing a blitz.Being "able to" do a task and being "successful in" doing a task are still different from one another.

1.Spiderman was able to do an unsuccessful blitz on Superman.=Spiderman did land a blitz but the end result was unsuccessful.

2.Superman was successful in doing a blitz on Mongul.=Superman succeeded in landing a blitz since Mongul got phucked as an end result.

This is what I meant in my post.Hope you understand what I'm trying to say 😎

Yes I do what you meant by it 🙂

Originally posted by Igniz
Not to be a troll or anything, but the scan you posted doesn't seem to indicate Superman landing a successful blitz on the villain.The dialogue itself seems to indicate that the villain allowed Superman to hit him multiple times.The "I cannot be harmed such as you!" statement indicates this.Not to mention the villain was smiling while Superman was punching him multiple times.Another indication was that at the next panel, Superman was dosed in the "Power of countless red suns" and was flat out cold in the next panel.So I don't really see this as a successful blitz since Superman didn't even succeed in knocking out the opponent.He didn't even succeed in hurting said opponent 😬
True. The guy allowed superman to get in close for one, second he let superman hit him to show that superman could not hurt him then flat out stated about his red sun power.( Which would not work on flash, a back hand did ). Third, the guy was also busy with lanturn anyway. To state that superman blitz someone that Flash failed to blitz is saying that superman is faster than flash. 🙁

Nobody is saying that Superman is faster than Flash.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nobody is saying that Superman is faster than Flash.
If i say that quicksilver blitzed a person that the runner failed to blitz, the general belief of such a statement points to the conclusion that quicksilver is faster than runner. Its the same as if i say that rhino lifted a building that Kurse failed to lift.

Originally posted by JBL
If i say that quicksilver blitzed a person that the runner failed to blitz, the general belief of such a statement points to the conclusion that quicksilver is faster than runner. Its the same as if i say that rhino lifted a building that Kurse failed to lift.

Except that ABC logic is something we don't like being used in the slightest.

Originally posted by JBL
True. The guy allowed superman to get in close for one, second he let superman hit him to show that superman could not hurt him then flat out stated about his red sun power.( Which would not work on flash, a back hand did ). Third, the guy was also busy with lanturn anyway. To state that superman blitz someone that Flash failed to blitz is saying that superman is faster than flash. 🙁

To be honest, it made me think that SB thinks Flash was more of a threat to him than Superman was.Hence why SB swatted Flash away and allowed Superman to punch him multiple times then laugh at the attempt 🙄

What a sad attempt to nitpick a scan

Starbreaker is powering up and then Flash tries to blitz him, Flash caught Starbreaker distracted while powering up and was UNABLE to land a blitz

Superman then tries the same and he is capable to land the blitz in the same situation as Starbreaker is distracted by GL.

Flash tried to land the blitz and failed, Superman tried to land the blitz and he was capable of doing it.

And is just to show the power level of Starbreaker, even if Flash was capable of landing the blitz, it's result will have been A LOT less of what Superman did as WE know Superman is stronger than Flash.

Does this means Superman is faster then Flash in combat speed? Probably not, but for sure He is faster than everybody in here.

IT WILL BE STUPID ON MY PART TO CLAIM that Superman is faster than Flash based ON A SINGLE INSTANCE

The argument of IGNORANCE AND DISBELIEVE will not work, even if it is repeated over and over again.

The feat is in there, is on the scan, DEAL WITH IT. and the faster it is accepted the less is going to hurt.

Superman can react to light, that means nanosecond reaction time not nanosecondS (plural) like others.

WW ftw, lol.

Re: Combat speed

Originally posted by abhilegend
If Superman's combat speed is 100, rate these characters' combat speed.

1. Wonder Woman
2. Black Adam
3. Gladiator
4. Silver Surfer
5. Thor

Preboot DC versions of characters. Go.

Using just "combat" speed (and taking into account application and not just potential)- I would vote like this:

1. 150
2. 75
3. 100
4. 150
5. 75

😎

Ha. That scan always irked me a bit, because, really, its the difference between Bruce Lee and a sniper bullet...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ha. That scan always irked me a bit, because, really, its the difference between Bruce Lee and a sniper bullet...

😂 And to make it worse, when Clark asks Bruce to get his back, Bats sides with the lady.

Supes just can't catch a break in that scene.

Originally posted by jaxthejester

WW ftw, lol.

Well, that's the end of that. Scan (WW) tells it all. 😉