Combat speed

Started by abhilegend22 pages

Originally posted by jaxthejester

WW ftw, lol.


From a writer who nerfed superman because if he didn't, there is no need for JLA.

You've written Superman before, in "Justice League Unlimited" and recently in the "Crisis on Two Earths" film. How does this version of Superman compare to the others you've written previously?

Mcduffie: One of the things about writing Superman in "Justice League" is that if you write him at his full potential, then there's no need for the rest of the Justice League. So, you always have to sort of power him down or kind of Worf-Effect him so he doesn't solve the entire problem in four seconds. You have to adjust him in a way that makes him less effective than he normally is. That's probably true for every member in a team book who has their own solo thing, but it's really obvious with Superman. In this case, one thing, we're starting off with a Superman who is much more powerful than he's ever been, which is fun as well. I generally have to write a Superman who is much weaker than he usually is. The problem of having him in a story that's not a finite one-off like this is, is that if Superman is at full power, he just fixes everything and there's nothing to do next month.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30914

Also hey bruce, when you've superman's reflexes and wonder woman's reflexes who will you chose?

Looks like wonder woman is using superman's reflexes too.

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Coup de grace, who is faster in actual combat? "You're no speeding bullet wonder woman."

But yeah, using a writer who got demolished at DC boards and then used his own comments in comic after that AND who admitted to have nerfed superman, its totally canon fact. No bias at all.

Originally posted by jaxthejester
Using just "combat" speed (and taking into account application and not just potential)- I would vote like this:

1. 150
2. 75
3. 100
4. 150
5. 75

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facepalm

Present one silver surfer or Gladiator or wonder woman feat that justifies that ranking. Also Thor at 75% of superman's combat speed? GTFO.

"IT WILL BE STUPID ON MY PART TO CLAIM that Superman is faster than Flash based ON A SINGLE INSTANCE"

As stupid as to claim that WW is faster based in a single scan and ignoring their whole history, TBH and that's the end of that.

I love how people use scans of superman and WW playing around to try and save face. Even batman knows that WW is faster. Lets move on.

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Wonder Woman stating that she would teach superman what fast is and then superman saying that her reflexes have improved i.e. she is moving faster than ever is just playing around.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53596/1111079-canuo8.jpg

Yet she and batman agree that WW is faster? Lets move on. WW wins.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3047517-wonderwoman162p03.jpg

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Being faster than cannonball and superman testing wonder woman's increased reflexes is meant to be something?

Gladiator wrapped cannonball in that steel girder so fast that he could not believe how fast gladiator did it. It has nothing to do with glads being faster than CB, its shows gladiators combat speed. Nice attempt to lowball though. WW blocked every beam and sent them back at superman so fast that superman noticed them AFTER they had hit the wall. Another nice attempt to lowball.Give up and move on.

If that's combat speed, what is this?

That's a random feat I pull up from my collection.

Superman was surprised at her increased reaction speed, that's why it was a test. When he adjusted to it, he casually snatched her from the air when she told him that she would teach him what fast reaction is and straight up told her that he's still faster than her. Its like you forget what happened in the next page.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/WonderWoman162p04.jpg

"You're no speeding bullet."

Case closed.

When did superman tell WW that he is faster than her?????????? lmao!!!!!. WW and batman BOTH told superman that WW is faster. Get over it. I AM FASTER THAN YOU SUPERMAN.......... YOU WONT LIKE MY ANSWER...... AS PLAIN AS DAY. ITS OVER. WW FTW. LETS MOVE ON.

Statements are nice, feats are better.

She just doesn't have the feats to actually best Superman, and on numerous occasions Superman has been shown to be her superior.

When he said "your reflexes have improved but you're no speeding bullet." He's "faster than a speeding bullet" y'know.

And later when Bruce and Diana both used superman's reflexes instead of her to accommodate to tower of fate.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supeswwreactiontime.jpg

Why not use wonder woman's reaction time if she's faster than him?

Also how many time you're going to ignore that mcduffie nerfed superman?

You've written Superman before, in "Justice League Unlimited" and recently in the "Crisis on Two Earths" film. How does this version of Superman compare to the others you've written previously?

Mcduffie: One of the things about writing Superman in "Justice League" is that if you write him at his full potential, then there's no need for the rest of the Justice League. So, you always have to sort of power him down or kind of Worf-Effect him so he doesn't solve the entire problem in four seconds. You have to adjust him in a way that makes him less effective than he normally is. That's probably true for every member in a team book who has their own solo thing, but it's really obvious with Superman. In this case, one thing, we're starting off with a Superman who is much more powerful than he's ever been, which is fun as well. I generally have to write a Superman who is much weaker than he usually is. The problem of having him in a story that's not a finite one-off like this is, is that if Superman is at full power, he just fixes everything and there's nothing to do next month.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30914

Putting your fingers in your ear and singing doesn't makes you right.

Originally posted by Cogito
Statements are nice, feats are better.

She just doesn't have the feats to actually best Superman, and on numerous occasions Superman has been shown to be her superior.

Show me superman fighting WW and being superior in combat speed. Superman has fought Black adam, wonder woman and thor and has not overwhelmed them with speed ever. Going by ANY character moving fast against a badguy is no way to place one over another hero when the other heros have did badguys the same way. Combat feats between two or more characters that have fought each other is a feat and not a statement. All characters in this thread are fast combat wise, but you will never see one overwhelm the other when they fight eachother.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Also hey bruce, when you've superman's reflexes and wonder woman's reflexes who will you chose?

Well, they said Supes has more raw speed, but WW doesn't have to think about her moves because of muscle memory.

Batman has the muscle memory so he would pick Clark's superior raw speed.

Not that you don't have a case, this just doesn't prove it.

He nerfed superman because superman is fast, hes strong, he has combat speed other powers and hes smart. hes not as fast as flash, but hes fast enough, hes not agile as WW, but hes agile enough... He has most of the others powers to some degree, So why would the others be needed???? Understand what that writer was saying.

Originally posted by JBL
Even batman knows that WW is faster.
The guy whose eyes can't perceive Superman or Wonder Woman's speed?

Yeah I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The guy whose eyes can't perceive Superman or Wonder Woman's speed?

Yeah I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.

Man cannot perceive the speed of light with his eyes, but hes smart enough to figure out how fast it is.

Originally posted by JBL
Man cannot perceive the speed of light with his eyes, but hes smart enough to figure out how fast it is.

Through extensive study and testing.

If that had been done with Superman and Diana, there would not be any debate, because sources could easily be cited.

Calm down.