Originally posted by janus77
Not sure Thor can put DM down.
DM could just phase through every Thor attack, magic is not something we meet - at all - in Watchmen-verse.So no reason to suppose Thor's attacks will do anything other than strictly physical damage and DM can reform from atomisation, like Sentry does and Thor doesn't seem to have an answer to that.
Except going intangible doesn't actually help as Thor can effect intangible beings.
Ah, I thought you meant scans/context/details.
Not sure how Shadow Cat and Vision compare with DM. I see DM as sort of a Surfer-lite, with the benefit of having only a limited number of showings and a high % of them demonstrating utilisation of de-materialisation and reformation and such.
Vision alters his density, iirc. Shadow Cat ... Not sure about her.
Oh is it that time of year where we speculate Manhattan and what he can do again? How I enjoy people call him a god and treat him like the end all be all of powerful characters in a world where he's really the only super powered being. It's not like that title and wank of power loses any meaning or translation when compared to other characters on bigger or similar scales of power.
Originally posted by Silent Mastershow me a feat Thor affecting intangible beings. The vision feat doesn't count as he wasn't intangible.
Which won't work because Thor can affect intangible beings and has better speed feats than Dr M.Now please stop ignoring facts.
Also how Thor would affect DM?
You know DM would only phase through Thors attacks.
What is your answer to DM seeing into the future? Or DM teleporting Thor to black hole?
Originally posted by h1a8
show me a feat Thor affecting intangible beings. The vision feat doesn't count as he wasn't intangible.Also how Thor would affect DM?
You know DM would only phase through Thors attacks.
What is your answer to DM seeing into the future? Or DM teleporting Thor to black hole?
The Vision feat does count because Mjolnir was physically inside his chest, IOW that part of the Vision was intangible...so once again I have to ask you to stop lying. plus there is still the SK feat that the Darkone mentioned.
As for teleporting Thor into a black hole, Thor can just fly or teleport out.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankNo, Ozy prevented DM from changing anything by blocking his future vision. Also, you are making stuff up. DM still has choice. He chooses to do what he wants. It's all based on his desire. If he wants to avoid an attack then he will. But he can't change what he will decide to do.
Manhattan seeing into the future just means he'd see how Thor is going to kick his ass. His foresight doesn't enable him to change the future...which again, was one of the major points of Watchmen.Also, based on feats, Manhattan isn't going to win a teleportation war with Thor.
Also DM can simply teleport Thor's head off or rather Thor to a black hole where immediate death awaits.
Originally posted by Silent MasterBeing inside vision's chest doesn't mean vision was intangible. Vision alters his density. He could have been water density or air density when Thor did that. He was hardening his body when Thor did that, so he wasn't 100% intangible.
The Vision feat does count because Mjolnir was physically inside his chest, IOW that part of the Vision was intangible...so once again I have to ask you to stop lying. plus there is still the SK feat that the Darkone mentioned.As for teleporting Thor into a black hole, Thor can just fly or teleport out.
I want to see the Shadow Cat feat and make my own judgements thank you.
Originally posted by h1a8
No, Ozy prevented DM from changing anything by blocking his future vision. Also, you are making stuff up. DM still has choice. He chooses to do what he wants. It's all based on his desire. If he wants to avoid an attack then he will. But he can't change what he will decide to do.
From the Big Blue himself:
I mean, why didn't you do something?
I CAN'T PREVENT THE FUTURE. TO ME, IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING
SNEER
Originally posted by h1a8
Being inside vision's chest doesn't mean vision was intangible. Vision alters his density. He could have been water density or air density when Thor did that. He was hardening his body when Thor did that, so he wasn't 100% intangible.I want to see the Shadow Cat feat and make my own judgements thank you.
His hand was also inside Thor's chest, dooder.
Originally posted by h1a8
Being inside vision's chest doesn't mean vision was intangible. Vision alters his density. He could have been water density or air density when Thor did that. He was hardening his body when Thor did that, so he wasn't 100% intangible.I want to see the Shadow Cat feat and make my own judgements thank you.
Actually, yes it does...plus there is still the SK example....so stop ignoring the facts...Thor can and has effected intangible beings.