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Originally posted by Lord StarkThe hell are you talking about? He's above ROTS Kenobi, just his simple comments can make you see that. "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful then you can possibly imagine." AND "You can't win, Darth." Obi-Wan isn't one to over-exaggerate.
Yes he does Ben Kenobi isn't even ROTS Kenobi level at this point. He curbstomps all 3
Originally posted by NTJack0Oops, I guess Obi-Wan somehow grew weaker between the events of ROTS and ANH, even though it is heavily implied that its the opposite, I guess all that training with two of the most Jedi Master's in the Jedi Order was all for naught, right?
Ben is not more powerful then his ROTS self, where did you get that fanfiction from?
That was out before ROTS was made, in 2002, and at the end of the ROTS movie, Obi-Wan was about to begin rigorous training with Yoda and Qui-Gon. It
makes absolutely no sense to include that in the movie if it has no relevance to Ben Kenobi's power. Everyone in this forum keeps arguing that "They just said it, to say it, therfore its just there to be there, in general" No, everything that is said in all the Star Wars movies is true, its not just said to be said, it actually means something and is relevant. Obi-Wan is told he is going to be trained by Qui-Gon again at the end of ROTS, and we know canonically that during the gap between ROTS and ANH, Kenobi had trained with Yoda as well. I doubt Yoda just went Mr. Miyagi style and just said "Paint my Dagobah house" No, he trained him, so you mean to tell me that despite all that training through about 19 years meant absolutely nothing?????
I'd say its more just PIS. Vader should have used TK more. Especially since iirc theres plenty of times when theres the opportunity to use it i.e. when Mauls gloating like an utter retard.
Plus reading it again, Vader does pretty well actually. He cuts his saber in half (again).
That's not the whole fight. And Vader used TK to have the blasters shoot at Maul.
IIRC Path of Destruction heavily explores that it depends on the situation. Likewise Maul is far more powerful than Obi-Wan but they fought for a minute without Maul using TK at all. Same goes for Starkiller. He is more powerful than any of his opponents but was still losing his duels because of inferior skill.
