Titanic Gospel: There's Only Two

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is an extraordinary claim, and it requires extraordinary proof. You don't have proof. Extraordinary proof is beyond you.

The sun that rises everyday--and has been doing that consistently since God created it--and heats your face, provides energy for solar panels, enables plants to live through photosynthesis, which supplies vitamin D to your body, and warms the planet is but one of many extraordinary proofs.

This extraordinary proof is not beyond me.

Only God could create such an extraordinary, designed, huge, extremely orderly sun that obeys definite laws.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The sun that rises everyday--and has been doing that consistently since God created it--and heats your face, provides energy for solar panels, enables plants to live through photosynthesis, which supplies vitamin D to your body, and warms the planet is but one of many extraordinary proofs.

This extraordinary proof is not beyond me.

Only God could create such an extraordinary, designed, huge, extremely orderly sun that obeys definite laws.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The sun that rises everyday--and has been doing that consistently since God created it--and heats your face, provides energy for solar panels, enables plants to live through photosynthesis, which supplies vitamin D to your body, and warms the planet is but one of many extraordinary proofs.

This extraordinary proof is not beyond me.

Congratulations, you just proved that the earth revolves around the sun every twenty-four hours!

Eru's creations seem to be more impressive overall, and they have the creative power of the OT God though. It is a good analogy though.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The sun that rises everyday--and has been doing that consistently since God created it--and heats your face, provides energy for solar panels, enables plants to live through photosynthesis, which supplies vitamin D to your body, and warms the planet is but one of many extraordinary proofs.

This extraordinary proof is not beyond me.

Only God could create such an extraordinary, designed, huge, extremely orderly sun that obeys definite laws.

Are you a sun worshiper?

That is not extraordinary proof. That doesn't prove anything.

The sun was not created by a god. The sun formed naturally. We know this because we understand the physics behind the sun. You want extraordinary proof?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Are you a sun worshiper?

That is not extraordinary proof. That doesn't prove anything.

The sun was not created by a god. The sun formed naturally. We know this because we understand the physics behind the sun. You want extraordinary proof?

Only a fool believes/thinks that the sun formed naturally.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Only a fool believes/thinks that the sun formed naturally.

I can show you pictures of other stars in our galaxy being born. If other suns are born, then why would our sun be any different?

JIA what is your educational level? Do you even have a high school diploma?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Eru's creations seem to be more impressive overall, and they have the creative power of the OT God though. It is a good analogy though.

I wish I could take credit for an amazing discovery but it is hardly something I stumbled upon.

In Tolkien's own words:

"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision."

-Letter 142

And then here's a more in-depth comparison* between the two:

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/arts/al0160.html

But, only in more fringe Christian beliefs will you see "creative angels." For instance, in Mormon Mythology, Adam is also Michael the Archangel. Adam, with Christ (Jehovah), created the universe under God's (Elohim) direction. There are other Archangels, but not those that are equal to Michael is the Chief Archangel, such as Gabriel (Noah) in Mormonism.

*It should be noted that, from a literary perspective, I have used "comparison" correctly, here.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Only a fool believes/thinks that the sun formed naturally.

I'm a genius of epic proportions and I know the sun formed naturally. 🙂

Your mistake is thinking God is mutually exclusive to the "set of all things natural." When, in reality, God is the set of all things natural and then an infinite amount of other things, too.

Originally posted by dadudemon
...I'm a genius of epic proportions...

And modest too. 😆

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Only a fool believes/thinks that the sun formed naturally.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

That's not Jesus! Jesus was black.

Back?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Back?

Thanks, I fixed it. 😎

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Okay. Now you need to prove that God created the Sun.

You are mistaken.

I don't have to prove anything.

Neither do you have to prove anything.

The heavens declare the glory of God.

The firmament (i.e. the great sky canopy or expanse of space) shows His handiwork.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are mistaken.

I don't have to prove anything.

The heavens declare the glory of God.

The firmament (i.e. the great sky canopy or expanse of space) shows His handiwork.

Sense you don't have to prove anything, then no one has to believe you.

Ok, your done. No reason to post ever again, unless you want to prove something.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
...Neither do you have to prove anything...

This part was added after I replied.

So, I don't have to prove that unicorns dance in the spring time?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This part was added after I replied.

So, I don't have to prove that unicorns dance in the spring time?

A fool looks into the face of truth and says, "I need proof."

Friend, try to think of something that does not exist.

The only condition is that you cannot use any ideas, concepts, things, or materials that already exist in some form.

Go.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
A fool looks into the face of truth and says, "I need proof."

That is exactly what I get from you when I try to point out your delusions. Give me proof, is what you say. So, that verse is correct, but it’s about you, not me. I’ve been trying to open your eyes to the truth. I used to be one of you. You can set yourself free, but only you can do that.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Friend, try to think of something that does not exist.

I cannot think of something that cannot exist because it doesn’t exist. I can represent it with a word, but the word is only a representation, nothing more. That word would be nothingness.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The only condition is that you cannot use any ideas, concepts, things, or materials that already exist in some form.

The word nothingness fits that perfectly.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Go.

Go what?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is exactly what I get from you when I try to point out your delusions. Give me proof, is what you say. So, that verse is correct, but it’s about you, not me. I’ve been trying to open your eyes to the truth. I used to be one of you. You can set yourself free, but only you can do that.

I cannot think of something that cannot exist because it doesn’t exist. I can represent it with a word, but the word is only a representation, nothing more. That word would be nothingness.

The word nothingness fits that perfectly.

Go what?

So you concede that it is impossible for you to think of something that does not exist?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Go what?

http://youtu.be/kwD92E-JerI?t=5s

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