Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You do realize that Odin can and has made Thor clones? Even at the end of Fear Itself, he waved his hand, and enchanted the weapons of the Mighty which they used to shit stomp the Worthy.Creating high heralds with a wave of the hand isn't something beyond the capabilities of either Odin or Galactus and it's what really separates them from lesser beings like Thanos. Not to mention that the Odin Force is empowering not only the Asgardian race but the Nine Asgardian Worlds (Or Universes). And whatever connection it has to the World Tree/Cosmic Axis. From what I understand of the Power Cosmic, it permeates the Universe and can be recharged by various forms of energy such as ambient cosmic radiation. So yea, I'd say Odin's resources are more tied up.
Tyrant is more powerful then Thor but as I remember it, he was created to be a peer to Galactus and was imbued with a great deal of his power. We've seen just how powerful someone, even with a portion of direct Odin Force can be. For example, Heimdall with a small portion of the Odin Force or Thor vs. amped Thanosi (Both from an already weakened Odin).
I agree that the Odin Force is more finite then the Power Cosmic which is almost like a naturally occurring resource of the Universe but these are factors to consider when making such an observation.
What feats do the Thor clones have. And making asgardian weapons to arm earth heroes against foes empowered by odins brother just really boils down to asgardian magic vs asgardian magic. The scope of power is still the same.
Much of galactus' power is tied up with perpetually forestalling abraxas, an entity that can kill Roma with a mere kiss and destroy Eternity. That hasn't been retconned so it's highly contestable to say that odins power is more tied up.
Tyrants power grew over time. He didn't start off almost as powerful as galactus. That's another way he's analogous to thor
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
What feats do the Thor clones have. And making asgardian weapons to arm earth heroes against foes empowered by odins brother just really boils down to asgardian magic vs asgardian magic. The scope of power is still the same.Much of galactus' power is tied up with perpetually forestalling abraxas, an entity that can kill Roma with a mere kiss and destroy Eternity. That hasn't been retconned so it's highly contestable to say that odins power is more tied up.
Tyrants power grew over time. He didn't start off almost as powerful as galactus. That's another way he's analogous to thor
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II🙂
"It is unwise to battle the Power Cosmic." - Silver Surfer
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
What feats do the Thor clones have. And making asgardian weapons to arm earth heroes against foes empowered by odins brother just really boils down to asgardian magic vs asgardian magic. The scope of power is still the same.Much of galactus' power is tied up with perpetually forestalling abraxas, an entity that can kill Roma with a mere kiss and destroy Eternity. That hasn't been retconned so it's highly contestable to say that odins power is more tied up.
Tyrants power grew over time. He didn't start off almost as powerful as galactus. That's another way he's analogous to thor
You were comparing Heralds like Surfer so why does the scope of power need to be any higher? Attuma showed us in his fight against Surfer that it really doesn't have to be. Odin waved his hands and enchanted the weapons with enough magic to whoop the Worthy. He also waved his hand and turned the weapons of the Worthy into paperweights.
I don't remember enough of the Abraxas saga to comment. What was their relationship again and how was it unique from the other alternate Galactus'?
Then that makes him even less relevant as a comparison, not more. 😐
Thor's ambition to gain more power culminated with Mjolnir for most of his life time. He doesn't seek more power to rival his father like Tyrant did with Galactus. Nor does Thor possess the ability to utilize the Odin Force directly in the same way Tyrant can the Power Cosmic from what I understand. A more accurate example would be Odin transferring the Odin Force into Thor to battle Surtur while drawing some energy from Asgard to battle Seth.
I'm curious how Asgardian magic fits into this since it's apparently a thing. For example, Surtur is an elemental entity of Asgardian magic. An interesting element to explore.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't understand how that proves the Power Cosmic is superior? As a matter of fact, Surfer says otherwise in that comic and Loki effortlessly breaks through Galactus' barrier being a God.
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Originally posted by janus77
Power Cosmic is far superior. Surfer, not always so.
Im understanding more and more that power cosmic is the basic makeup off all that is; SS and Galactus have complete control over..
However Odin is mainly magic based..
This has to be why Cosmic Power is far superior because its a fundamental real attack that is not magic based and by harnessing it you harness reality itself and it bends to your whim.
Therefore that is why SS can synthesize Odin force with Power Cosmic because basically Cosmic Energy makes up Odin Force Magic.
Am I correct in this assumption?
You probably have a better grasp of all this than Marvel does.
Their writers just throw shit on paper and ... meh, there's Cap using his shield to bop the bad guy ... Yeah! ... done.
PC was, might still be, the fundamental force of the omniverse. Everything in Marvel is affected by or created from it, in some way.
Galactus seems to have the most control over it and can actually endow such abilities to others (heralds, etc).
Not seen any other cosmic do that.
Hey Janus, speaking about the power cosmic:
Remember when Thanos gave an explanation as to how the conversion process works when Big G takes a herald, in Annihilation? He said something along the lines of "It doesn't bond with a soul.. It replaces it." Basically, that it feeds off the soul, and replaces it in the host.
Did that disturb you as much as it did me? It's kind of a worse retcon then when Alan Moore made Swamp Thing a plant elemental who thought he was a human, because at least the actual human's immortal soul got to go to an afterlife.. But Norrin's soul was eaten, and now he's this soulless construct with Norrin's memories? 😘