Can the Basilisk fang destroy the Ring ?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, I said "No lava kills instantly unless you fall into it face first" not "No, Lava kills instantly unless you fall into it face first". Now, notice the grammar difference with the comma after the word "no"?

The first correct version implies that no lava I know of kills you when you jump into it feet first, as the stuff is thick, you sink slowly, thus taking longer to reach vital organs to kill you with. the second interpretation, the one you incorrectly used imples that if you hit the same lava with your face first, it won't kill you immediately, which is simply stupid, and you deserve to be shot for implying that I said that.

Now who is being ignorant? Also, where did I insult you? Your the one who called me simple, so the first volley is yours chief, don't go crying because you can't read correctly.

You wish you were, but as I just demonstrated, your all aboard that failtrain.

Gollum didn't last a second when he hit that lava, when he struck it he died in less than one second. the ring floated upon the surface, where we then see the scene switch to the battle of the black gate for a short time where Aragorn is fighting the Mordor Troll Cheiftain, Once Aragorn gets knocked over, the scene switches back, and the runes of the Mordor tongue appear on the ring, which takes 2 to 3 seconds, before the ring desolves into the lava flow. a few seconds later, all eyes turn to Sauron's eye at the Barad Dur tower pinnacle, which promptly explodes, sending the dark lords forces scurrying in terror as the land gets ripped apart.

The ring therefore lasted more than 10 seconds that's 9.5 times the length Gollum did, and the Ring was magically enchanted to withstand all punishment besides the fires of Mt.Doom.

If he died in less than one second he wouldn't have been able to hold the ring above the lava. 😂

You just say random things.

The ring is durable whereas Gollum is not. Lava didn't instantly destroy anything.

Plot device. Correction. Meant to tank anything save the fires of Mount Doom in the Lotr verse only. This doesn't apply to other fictional universes.

At the end of the day resisting an axe isn't cutting it against the Basilisk fang since the Horcruxes have resisted greater than an axe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
*Snipped useless drivel.*

At the end of the day resisting an axe isn't cutting it against the Basilisk fang since the Horcruxes have resisted greater than an axe.

So, once again, we are back to "Different Universes, Different rules!"

Do you enjoy taking a dump on common sense and logic?

Ok, prove the fang can destroy the ring, given that all it destroyed were a bunch of Horcruxes, and didn't even kill a child, who survived the venom long enough not only to stab the diary 3 times, but also for Falx to come and cry his pain away.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
So, once again, we are back to "Different Universes, Different rules!"

Do you enjoy taking a dump on common sense and logic?

Ok, prove the fang can destroy the ring, given that all it destroyed were a bunch of Horcruxes, and didn't even kill a child, who survived the venom long enough not only to stab the diary 3 times, but also for Falx to come and cry his pain away.

The Phoenix saved Harry. Context. 😂

Is Harry more durable than a Horcrux ? Thats how stupid your point was.

Axe resistance feat which is less than Potter magic therefore the Basilisk fang wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He sank right down in the lava. Quit lying.

And he died once any major organ got hit. Are you saying he didn't die now?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Phoenix saved Harry. Context. 😂

Not the point. You are talking about how long it took Golum to die (less than a second) and are trying to compare it to basilisk venom which, not only did not kill Harry in a comparable amount of time, it didn't kill him at all, and Falx in a minute or more after Harry got bitten was able to save him. This same venom killed a Horcrux in 3 stabs, AND was able to destroy 2 more Horcruxes in single strikes.

Your logic was that the lava took too long to kill Gollum, but the Basilisk venom didn't kill Harry despite having a much longer length of time and an open wound to work through. Your comparative is faulty.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is Harry more durable than a Horcrux ? Thats how stupid your point was.

You made the point when you said that because Gollum survives the lava for 0.30 seconds. Well, I gave you a direct comparison, and it shows your attempt to lowball is shockingly sh!t.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Axe resistance feat which is less than Potter magic therefore the Basilisk fang wins.

Except the Axe didn't destroy the ring. We have seen what destroys a horcrux, we know it's upper limit, we don't know the Ring's limit outside of Mt.Doom, which is explicitly stated to be the only way to unmake it. So, unless you can give us an upper limit to the durability of the ring outside of Mt.Doom, you cannot make this claim, and the original limit still applies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They did fear him. Just not as much minus a body, sport.

Originally posted by quanchi112

He took it off just like we see the ring exchanged hands as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Ron didn't wear it for years. Years>>>weeks. Bilbo willingly gave it away after YEARS of INFLUENCE.

Originally posted by quanchi112

No, he used one and kept it close by. Highly intelligent due to their durability and the fact he had many others. One was a weapon and one he had close by.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Compare that to a weapon Sauron dies as soon as it falls off his index finger and you see how idiotic Sauron was when it came to it.

Still, did you get your boo-boo? Or duj you jtil wants ur mommy?

Edit:

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Phoenix saved Harry. Context. 😂

Is Harry more durable than a Horcrux ? Thats how stupid your point was.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Axe feat is all it has in the end. Hyperbole doesn't count nor do those weapons have any feats. But in your world everything is equal. According to you feats account for nothing.

Had to have a good laugh at this comment

I thought "portrayal was more important than feats" according to you?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581817&pagenumber=65

I said he was portrayed as faster than humans in his universe. That is an undeniable fact. Feats are for morons who need spoon fed everything.

I said portrayal which carries more weight than nerd math feats.

Flip flopping stances when it conveniently suits you eh Quan?

Originally posted by Epicurus
Incorrect. You said that they feared Voldemort even though he had no body. I disproved this silly assertion with the fact that Lucius carelessly threw away the horcrux, without even caring if it got destroyed.

You said nothing of the sort. You lowballed the ring by claiming that Gandalf overrode its influence on Bilbo, all the while ignoring that he did so after decades, while the Horcrux couldn't even control Ron for more than a week or so. Awful.

Ron overcame its influence due to the magic of friendship. I guess the Weaseleys probably watch MLP-FIM on weekends.😂

He used Nagini as a weapon and recon tool. That's not the same as him hiding a horcrux away. You don't even remember the most basic facts displayed in the show.

Duj quanny want hij boo-boo now?

Originally posted by Epicurus
You finally conceded that they feared. Maybe there is some hope for you after all.

Meaning he overcame its influence.

That's right baby, give me another concession. By outright admitting that years>>>>weeks, you indirectly admit that the Ring's influence was far more potent since it lasted far much longer. Oh my, you probably didn't even realize the implications of what you just typed. This one is getting profiled, lol.

He used Nagini as a weapon, which proves my point about how careless he was in regards to his horcruxes. As both Dumbledore and Slughorn note, horcruxes are supposed to be safeguards for the wizard using them to achieve immortality. Voldemort callously throwing one of his around without even the slightest thought about the repercussions speaks volumes of his ineptitude at hiding their existence from prying eyes like Dumbledore, who were plotting his destruction from the get-go, lol.

Not sure what point you're trying to make with this incoherent piece of babblecrap.

Still, did you get your boo-boo? Or duj you jtil wants ur mommy?

Edit:

You do realize that basilisk venom is supposed to be an achilles heel for horcruxes in general? Or have you never heard of the term "weakness exploitation" in your life?

The hobbit took the ring off multiple times as well. 😂

Ever see the hobbit. Gollum lost it even. 😂

I guess they all overcame it just the same with a longer duration of influence. You're actually destroying your own case. Tee hee.

No, I said years of influence means the impact should be far greater. It wasn't. It was easy for someone with years of corruption to hand it away. That shows its influence isn't that great at all since even years with the thing doesn't prevent it from just being handed over without a fight.

Profile it and further highlight your stupidity. 👆

That was one Horcrux out of many. No, you have no point and are ignoring the majority of the Horcruxes and the fact they were found out due to the fact Harry could peer into his mind when compared with one ring which tied directly into Sauron's fate.

Dumbledore was poisoned trying to destroy one. Voldemort was a genius unlike Sauron I never got my body back.

Sauron created a weapon that only needed to be taken off his person and he would die. What an idiot. Losing fingers proved fatal unlike Voldemort and his impressive Horcruxes which didn't need to be showered with to retain his life.

I know Basilisk are powerful. I know it destroys them due to its power and potency. I know your rant is irrelevant to my point. Keep trying, kiddo.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
And he died once any major organ got hit. Are you saying he didn't die now?

Not the point. You are talking about how long it took Golum to die (less than a second) and are trying to compare it to basilisk venom which, not only did not kill Harry in a comparable amount of time, it didn't kill him at all, and Falx in a minute or more after Harry got bitten was able to save him. This same venom killed a Horcrux in 3 stabs, AND was able to destroy 2 more Horcruxes in single strikes.

Your logic was that the lava took too long to kill Gollum, but the Basilisk venom didn't kill Harry despite having a much longer length of time and an open wound to work through. Your comparative is faulty.

You made the point when you said that because Gollum survives the lava for 0.30 seconds. Well, I gave you a direct comparison, and it shows your attempt to lowball is shockingly sh!t.

Except the Axe didn't destroy the ring. We have seen what destroys a horcrux, we know it's upper limit, we don't know the Ring's limit outside of Mt.Doom, which is explicitly stated to be the only way to unmake it. So, unless you can give us an upper limit to the durability of the ring outside of Mt.Doom, you cannot make this claim, and the original limit still applies.

I never said anything needs to be destroyed instantaneously. I was just throwing your silly logic back at you. You dug your own grave. I don't subscribe to your stupid logic. You clearly do.

You said people die immediately. You then conceded. I accepted. I laughed at you.

We see two things interact with the ring. Axe isn't special. Lava isn't either by your own standards. Potter magic is greater than an axe. Ring isn't impressive since Gollum resisted as well and he's not durable at all.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Had to have a good laugh at this comment

I thought "portrayal was more important than feats" according to you?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581817&pagenumber=65

Flip flopping stances when it conveniently suits you eh Quan?

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he didn't. His heart and kings are major organs and he lived after they were submerged. 😂

His heart and... what now?

No, he didn't. You are lying openly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said anything needs to be destroyed instantaneously. I was just throwing your silly logic back at you. You dug your own grave. I don't subscribe to your stupid logic. You clearly do.

Except you misread my sentence, and are still operating under that delusion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said people die immediately. You then conceded. I accepted. I laughed at you.

You fail reading comprehension, like seriously. I corrected your misinterpretation once, but apparently you have your stupid stick jammed into your ears deeper then usual today.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see two things interact with the ring. Axe isn't special. Lava isn't either by your own standards. Potter magic is greater than an axe. Ring isn't impressive since Gollum resisted as well and he's not durable at all.

Again, reread what I actually said, and not your pants-on-head stupid variation. Geez, you'd think a grammar nazi like you would not be capable if misinterpreting a single sentence..... Apparently this level of discussion is WELL beyond your intellectual capability.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
His heart and... what now?

No, he didn't. You are lying openly.

Except you misread my sentence, and are still operating under that delusion.

You fail reading comprehension, like seriously. I corrected your misinterpretation once, but apparently you have your stupid stick jammed into your ears deeper then usual today.

Again, reread what I actually said, and not your pants-on-head stupid variation. Geez, you'd think a grammar nazi like you would not be capable if misinterpreting a single sentence..... Apparently this level of discussion is WELL beyond your intellectual capability.

😂

Watch the movie. You're embarrassing.

You are conceding the point.

Accepted.

Gollum can resist the lava and according to your criteria this is hands down pathetic. Axe resistance feat is all you have. Basilisk fang wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His heart and lungs are located below his head. That was submerged yet he didn't die right away.

😂

Watch the movie. You're embarrassing.

You are conceding the point.

Accepted.

Gollum can resist the lava and according to your criteria this is hands down pathetic. Axe resistance feat is all you have. Basilisk fang wins.

The second you started spinning off of a false interpretation, and still have not managed to recover from your nosedive into rancid idiocy despite several corrections means you are now just babbling to save yourself.

Your concession is therefore accepted due to your rampant dishonesty and lack of anything resembling tangible evidence or rational thought.

Good day.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

The second you started spinning off of a false interpretation, and still have not managed to recover from your nosedive into rancid idiocy despite several corrections means you are now just babbling to save yourself.

Your concession is therefore accepted due to your rampant dishonesty and lack of anything resembling tangible evidence or rational thought.

Good day.

His body was submerged. I played the link. Concession accepted, Beiber.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here you say they didn't fear him.

Here you claim I conceded further ramming home your stupidity. You claimed they didn't fear him and thus conceded to me. You're too stupid to even realize it.

I guess I was wrong on there being hope for you, zopzop 2.0.

Originally posted by quanchi112

The hobbit took the ring off multiple times as well. 😂

Ever see the hobbit. Gollum lost it even. 😂

I guess they all overcame it just the same with a longer duration of influence. You're actually destroying your own case. Tee hee.

No, I said years of influence means the impact should be far greater. It wasn't. It was easy for someone with years of corruption to hand it away. That shows its influence isn't that great at all since even years with the thing doesn't prevent it from just being handed over without a fight.

Gollum was obsessed with the Ring even after losing it. Goes to show the powerful dark influence of the Ring as opposed to the horcruxes which failed to corrupt a bunch of teenagers, lol.

Needing a longer duration to overcome something as opposed to something which takes a much shorter duration to resist is a better feat for the longer duration thing. It's fairly simple really, and anyone with even the slightest bit of common sense and half a brain would get it in their first try, but you being you won't.

Years of corruption, during which the strong-willed Bilbo had ample opportunity to develop resistance to the Ring's power, and still he needed a prod from a powerful warlock to ultimately free him from its dark urges. As opposed to Ron, who overcame it within a matter of weeks, that too under his own power, lol.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Profile it and further highlight your stupidity. 👆

That was one Horcrux out of many. No, you have no point and are ignoring the majority of the Horcruxes and the fact they were found out due to the fact Harry could peer into his mind when compared with one ring which tied directly into Sauron's fate.

Dumbledore was poisoned trying to destroy one. Voldemort was a genius unlike Sauron I never got my body back.

Sauron created a weapon that only needed to be taken off his person and he would die. What an idiot. Losing fingers proved fatal unlike Voldemort and his impressive Horcruxes which didn't need to be showered with to retain his life.

I know Basilisk are powerful. I know it destroys them due to its power and potency. I know your rant is irrelevant to my point. Keep trying, kiddo.

It proves his callousness when handling his horcruxes. Immediately after Harry and co learnt of the horcruxes existence, it didn't take them more than a year to track down all the remaining six and destroy each and every one of them. Just goes to show what poor effort was spent in hiding them by their maker.

Dumbledore's death was already predestined the moment he put on the cursed Marvollo ring. Dumbledore's obsession with the Deathly Hallows is what proved to be his undoing, not Voldy's pathetic horcruxes.

So, your go-to tactic when someone calls out your incoherent babblecrap is to spew the same incoherent babblecrap? Really?

Weakness Exploitation. Check it up. Basilisk venom can be negated by the tears of an ugly dodo for crying out loud. I guess on that note, if you cried you too could cure basilisk poisoning, lol.

Originally posted by Epicurus
I am flinging your own flip-flops at your face, in case you didn't notice.

I guess I was wrong on there being hope for you, zopzop 2.0.

Yes, and the crucial difference is this; the Ring's power still tempted him and corrupted him, unlike Ron who overcame it after taking off the locket. LOL.

Gollum was obsessed with the Ring even after losing it. Goes to show the powerful dark influence of the Ring as opposed to the horcruxes which failed to corrupt a bunch of teenagers, lol.

Needing a longer duration to overcome something as opposed to something which takes a much shorter duration to resist is a better feat for the longer duration thing. It's fairly simple really, and anyone with even the slightest bit of common sense and half a brain would get it in their first try, but you being you won't.

Years of corruption, during which the strong-willed Bilbo had ample opportunity to develop resistance to the Ring's power, and still he needed a prod from a powerful warlock to ultimately free him from its dark urges. As opposed to Ron, who overcame it within a matter of weeks, that too under his own power, lol.

I'll do so soon enough. Don't get jumpy. After all, this isn't the first of your blunders which I've profiled. Ganondorf/Russell being compared to LT/Thor, anyone?

It proves his callousness when handling his horcruxes. Immediately after Harry and co learnt of the horcruxes existence, it didn't take them more than a year to track down all the remaining six and destroy each and every one of them. Just goes to show what poor effort was spent in hiding them by their maker.

Dumbledore's death was already predestined the moment he put on the cursed Marvollo ring. Dumbledore's obsession with the Deathly Hallows is what proved to be his undoing, not Voldy's pathetic horcruxes.

So, your go-to tactic when someone calls out your incoherent babblecrap is to spew the same incoherent babblecrap? Really?

Weakness Exploitation. Check it up. Basilisk venom can be negated by the tears of an ugly dodo for crying out loud. I guess on that note, if you cried you too could cure basilisk poisoning, lol.

The difference is one hobbit gave it away with just a threat. Not very powerful stuff. We see many even Gollum lose the damn thing. Your silly points hurt your case most of all.

Gollum still took it off easily despite years so it wasn't hard to take off., that was your stupid point. You say silly things. Gollum was obsessed with it but really tried to resist. He would have had he not been betrayed so even the worst had hope to stop it.

Gandalf hid in trees while throwing fiery pine cones. What a powerful warlock. The words powerful warlock mean nothing. We see how pathetic he can be in combat.

You didn't understand the analogy at all. Not surprised.

Harry could peer into his mind. That is something no one could prevent. He didn't have them on the fireplace. It took a concerted effort and Dumbledore lost his life in the process.

Dumbledore died due to Voldemort's curse he put on it. Very clever.

Again, the basilisk destroys something very powerful. The ring only resisted an axe. Case and point.

7 out of ten people believe the ring resists

So quan has 5 alt accounts?

Ridiculous thread.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
7 out of ten people believe the ring resists

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Ridiculous thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just flip flopped. I just called you on it. What makes matters worse is this response reminded me o something Abhilegend would come back with making zero to little sense.

The difference is one hobbit gave it away with just a threat. Not very powerful stuff. We see many even Gollum lose the damn thing. Your silly points hurt your case most of all.

Gollum still took it off easily despite years so it wasn't hard to take off., that was your stupid point. You say silly things. Gollum was obsessed with it but really tried to resist. He would have had he not been betrayed so even the worst had hope to stop it.

Gandalf hid in trees while throwing fiery pine cones. What a powerful warlock. The words powerful warlock mean nothing. We see how pathetic he can be in combat.

You didn't understand the analogy at all. Not surprised.

Harry could peer into his mind. That is something no one could prevent. He didn't have them on the fireplace. It took a concerted effort and Dumbledore lost his life in the process.

Dumbledore died due to Voldemort's curse he put on it. Very clever.

Again, the basilisk destroys something very powerful. The ring only resisted an axe. Case and point.

The difference is one very strong-willed hobbit gave it up after being under its influence for decades and a prod from a powerful warlock. While one very week willed teenage mage was able to overcome the horcrux's influence in a matter of weeks. The difference is palpable and certainly not in the favor of the horcrux.

Gollum was obsessed with it even after losing it. He was obsessed for decades in fact. Obsessed enough to die in a lava pit with it. Proof of the Ring's powerful influence, which is orders of magnitude more potent than the horcrux's based on on-screen feats.

Gandalf fought and defeated a powerful dark creature in the form of the Balrog. Get back to me the day Voldemort achieves a similar feat with a similar creature like a Dementor or something.

I did and it was an awful blunder on your part, both then and now. The only thing more pathetic was your piss-poor attempts to save face and backtrack afterwards, lol.

Only because of his horcrux-connection. Which in itself has nothing to with how they tracked down the horcruxes, since they used their wits to do so. Not Harry's special psychic strap-on with Voldemort. Not to mention that Voldemort was deploying occlumency to shut off his mind from Harry's gaze by Half-Blood Prince.

Prove that the curse was put on it by Voldemort. It was a Gaunt heirloom, and considering that the Gaunts were active practitioners and collectors of dark magic and dark objects, it's more likely that it was cursed a long time back.

Weakness exploitation isn't proof of power, mon ami. Or you believe that Sue Storm can damage Galactus because she damages Celestials?