Can the Basilisk fang destroy the Ring ?

Originally posted by Epicurus
Enough fear that Lucius wasn't even the least bit frightened of the consequences of throwing away a very important artifact for Voldemort? Thought so. And the Orc asking for a reward for his services is a low showing how exactly? The hobbit needing decades and a final prod from a powerful warlock is a far better showing than a horcrux failing to corrupt Ron Weasely.

I understood them perfectly well enough to know that you concede that of the 2 dark objects, the horcux doesn't even compare to the Ring.

Yes you did. By claiming that the Ring was a theoretical horcrux, Mr Magic-isn't-equal-in-neutral-settings, you essentially claimed that the soul is part of his powerset. Awful.

Your original claim tells us that the diary was no longer a horcrux once Riddle left to assume a corporeal form. Don't try to back peddle from your words now.

The Ring wins like the champ trophy it is. Quan loses like the horrible loser he is. We all laugh at the unfolding tragedy. Life goes on as usual on as usual on KMC forums.

Gandalf just spoke in a deep voice and altered his shadow. 😂 Thats all that occurred and he was like here you go after a little hug.

Horcruxes are far superior. They can fight back, have better resistance feats, and aren't general information for the world at large.

I said the ring contained part of his essence albeit a soul. It did. Once it was destroyed Sauron died forever.

I can't even take you seriously anymore. This insult is akin to something a grade schooler would come up with.

Originally posted by Firefly218
I'm not saying the ring couldn't POSSIBLY be destroyed by something from the Potter universe, I'm saying your evidence is not substantial enough to prove anything. That's not no limits fallacy.

Thanos does not have any durability feats in the MCU.

I have proof that the ring is indestructable. The council of leaders in LotR, intelligent wizards and various decades of documented myth confirm that the ring can only be destroyed in Mt. Doom. It's up to you to prove otherwise.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

The ring isn't as we clearly see it destroyed in Mount Doom. We see it resist an axe which isn't good enough.

Elrond: The Ring cannot be unmade by any craft we here possess.

... in the company of a powerful wizard, two of the most powerful elves in Middle-earth, all three with Rings of Power, some dwarven smiths, some elven craftsmen and magicians and sages, the nearby lava of Moria...

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Elrond: The Ring cannot be unmade by any craft we here possess.

... in the company of a powerful wizard, two of the most powerful elves in Middle-earth, all three with Rings of Power, some dwarven smiths, some elven craftsmen and magicians and sages, the nearby lava of Moria...

Burden of proof is on you. You just made an assertion.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Burden of proof is on you. You just made an assertion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Axe feat is all it has in the end. Hyperbole doesn't count nor do those weapons have any feats. But in your world everything is equal. According to you feats account for nothing.

No, you're just being obtuse. Elrond, a thousands of year old elflord who possesses a sibling ring to the Ring of Power, clearly states that the Ring can't be destroyed by anything on Middle-earth but the fires of Mount Doom. You're claiming the Basilisk fang can, because the Ring has only soaked an axe attack.

This would be like saying I could kill Hulk with a pool noodle because he has only soaked bullets and punches, not pool noodles.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Better feats is proof whereas you have absolutely nothing at all.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

The ring isn't as we clearly see it destroyed in Mount Doom. We see it resist an axe which isn't good enough.

I have proof from credible sources in the movie that the ring cannot be destroyed. Better feats does NOT = victory in this case.

Thanos had a guest appearance in The Avengers movie. He has no durability feats, but he has implied power. According to your logic, since Spiderman has better feats, he can defeat Thanos.

There are credible sources in the LotR movie that claim the only way to destroy the ring is in Mt. Doom. That means the ring can resist EVERYTHING else in the LotR universe.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, you're just being obtuse. Elrond, a thousands of year old elflord who possesses a sibling ring to the Ring of Power, clearly states that the Ring can't be destroyed by anything on Middle-earth but the fires of Mount Doom. You're claiming the Basilisk fang can, because the Ring has only soaked an axe attack.

This would be like saying I could kill Hulk with a pool noodle because he has only soaked bullets and punches, not pool noodles.

👆

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, you're just being obtuse. Elrond, a thousands of year old elflord who possesses a sibling ring to the Ring of Power, clearly states that the Ring can't be destroyed by anything on Middle-earth but the fires of Mount Doom. You're claiming the Basilisk fang can, because the Ring has only soaked an axe attack.

This would be like saying I could kill Hulk with a pool noodle because he has only soaked bullets and punches, not pool noodles.

Originally posted by Firefly218
I have proof from credible sources in the movie that the ring cannot be destroyed. Better feats does NOT = victory in this case.

Thanos had a guest appearance in The Avengers movie. He has no durability feats, but he has implied power. According to your logic, since Spiderman has better feats, he can defeat Thanos.

There are credible sources in the LotR movie that claim the only way to destroy the ring is in Mt. Doom. That means the ring can resist EVERYTHING else in the LotR universe.

We haven't seen enough of Thanos to do a versus thread yet. Quit being premature.

There isn't really anything impressive in the Lotr universe save Sauron and he wouldn't want it destroyed either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which doesn't apply to any of the Potter characters or artifacts. I also wasn't saying it could only resist a dwarf axe I said that is its best resistance feat. We don't see the elvish swords do anything of significant either. Quit changing my actual stance just because you're unhappy with the Potter movie verse being more impressive.

You so silly.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You so silly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort wasn't around at the time. We see other beings take Sauron's ring for themselves the entire time so it is more or less the same thing. The difference is once Voldemort was back no one demanded something in return from him unlike with Sauron and the pale Orc.

Gandalf just spoke in a deep voice and altered his shadow. 😂 Thats all that occurred and he was like here you go after a little hug.

Horcruxes are far superior. They can fight back, have better resistance feats, and aren't general information for the world at large.

I said the ring contained part of his essence albeit a soul. It did. Once it was destroyed Sauron died forever.

I can't even take you seriously anymore. This insult is akin to something a grade schooler would come up with.

Yes, after being held under its influence for decades, it took a prod from a powerful mage to finally make a very strong-willed hobbit snap out of the Ring's influence. Which is more than what one can say for the horcrux which failed to keep a loser like Ron under its spell for barely even a week.

Based on nothing whatsoever. Considering that Voldemort carelessly threw around his horcruxes and used them as weapons instead of safeguards for his immortality, you're wrong. Blatantly wrong.

You essentially said that the soul is power for him since the Ring is a horcrux in theory according to you. What proof do you have for such a claim?

Aw, do you want to cwy? Duj baby quanny want his mommy? Or do you just want ur boo-boo?

Considering that Sauron didn't actually place his soul into the ring, but instead placed a considerable amount of his power and his dark will instead (of which he still had a considerable amount), no, the Ring is not a Horcrux, which is still meant to keep the user alive. Sauron was immortal, thus he had no need for safeguards like that. The ring was intended as a tool of power and domination, not a device of preservation.

The reason why Barad-dûr fell when the ring was destroyed was not because Sauron had died, but rather because he became powerless. Sauron had not been actually killed, but, much like Voldemort, he was rendered permanently inert. Though in Voldemorts case, he is forever trapped in Limbo, Sauron is forced to wander the lands as an inert shade, unable to influence what he observes in any way, the ultimate punishment for a being who sought the domination of all living beings.

Originally posted by Epicurus
So you agree that the lack of Voldemort's presence equates to no fear from the Malfoy family in regards to what they did with the diary? Good. The Ring was a dark object meant to corrupt, so that's hardly surprising. False, as we see Harry/Ron/Hermione break into Gringotts to destroy the Hufflepuff cup.

Yes, after being held under its influence for decades, it took a prod from a powerful mage to finally make a very strong-willed hobbit snap out of the Ring's influence. Which is more than what one can say for the horcrux which failed to keep a loser like Ron under its spell for barely even a week.

Based on nothing whatsoever. Considering that Voldemort carelessly threw around his horcruxes and used them as weapons instead of safeguards for his immortality, you're wrong. Blatantly wrong. Horcruxes also corrupted so the ring has absolutely nothing on the Horcruxes.

You essentially said that the soul is power for him since the Ring is a horcrux in theory according to you. What proof do you have for such a claim?

Aw, do you want to cwy? Duj baby quanny want his mommy? Or do you just want ur boo-boo?

I said they can fight back which some of them did not they always fight back. Words are always so confusing with you.

Ron wasn't wearing it anymore. Again, a deep voice and a shadow made someone with many years of corruption let it go that easily. Some shadow puppets and a manly voice and the hobbit is handing it away.

He hid them away. He didn't threw then around. Harry could peer into his thoughts. Try and to be serious for a moment.

Again with the emotional outbursts. I wonder if this ever works on anyone above a fifth grade education. Poor guy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said they were scared just not as scared. In Sauron's presence his underlings make demands of him.

I said they can fight back which some of them did not they always fight back. Words are always so confusing with you.

Ron wasn't wearing it anymore. Again, a deep voice and a shadow made someone with many years of corruption let it go that easily. Some shadow puppets and a manly voice and the hobbit is handing it away.

He hid them away. He didn't threw then around. Harry could peer into his thoughts. Try and to be serious for a moment.

Again with the emotional outbursts. I wonder if this ever works on anyone above a fifth grade education. Poor guy.

You said nothing of the sort. You lowballed the ring by claiming that Gandalf overrode its influence on Bilbo, all the while ignoring that he did so after decades, while the Horcrux couldn't even control Ron for more than a week or so. Awful.

Ron overcame its influence due to the magic of friendship. I guess the Weaseleys probably watch MLP-FIM on weekends.😂

He used Nagini as a weapon and recon tool. That's not the same as him hiding a horcrux away. You don't even remember the most basic facts displayed in the show.

Duj quanny want hij boo-boo now?

Originally posted by Epicurus
Incorrect. You said that they feared Voldemort even though he had no body. I disproved this silly assertion with the fact that Lucius carelessly threw away the horcrux, without even caring if it got destroyed.

You said nothing of the sort. You lowballed the ring by claiming that Gandalf overrode its influence on Bilbo, all the while ignoring that he did so after decades, while the Horcrux couldn't even control Ron for more than a week or so. Awful.

Ron overcame its influence due to the magic of friendship. I guess the Weaseleys probably watch MLP-FIM on weekends.😂

He used Nagini as a weapon and recon tool. That's not the same as him hiding a horcrux away. You don't even remember the most basic facts displayed in the show.

Duj quanny want hij boo-boo now?

Gandalf did override it with a deep voice and shadow puppets. Ron didn't wear it for years. That's awful for the ring.

Ron took it off and left. As soon as he was gone he felt better but he didn't have it on for years like Bilbo.

He had one Horcrux not all of them. You acting like he wore them all or had them all out in the open isn't being honest.

More childish remarks to distract people away from the facts. 🙂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, you're just being obtuse. Elrond, a thousands of year old elflord who possesses a sibling ring to the Ring of Power, clearly states that the Ring can't be destroyed by anything on Middle-earth but the fires of Mount Doom. You're claiming the Basilisk fang can, because the Ring has only soaked an axe attack.

This would be like saying I could kill Hulk with a pool noodle because he has only soaked bullets and punches, not pool noodles.

Originally posted by Firefly218