Originally posted by Darth Thor
No not at all. It's considered weak by most movie critics, and many people working in the movie industry- A lot of which originates from Lucas haters and right wingers who didn't like the story idea of a great democracy being completely corrupt and forming into an evil Empire.
Or people thought it was a shitty story... But a secret consiparacy against Lucas led by conservative nut jobs is a far more intresting reason so let's go with it.
Originally posted by ares834
Or people thought it was a shitty story...
So clearly people thought ANH and ROTJ were shitty as well 👆 Don't forget your history.
There's a big difference between Movie critics and your GA. So you need to distinguish what "people" you're talking about here. Because I'm also "people." And I loved the Prequels.
Originally posted by ares834
But a secret consiparacy against Lucas led by conservative nut jobs is a far more intresting reason so let's go with it.
It's not much of a secret that Lucas isn't a popular guy in Hollywood.
And say what you want, but I've never seen actual crappy movies take as much heat as Lucas has done with the prequels.
Not Spider-Man 3, Not Terminator 3, Not Iron Man 3, Not X-Men 3, Not Superman Returns... e.t.c. None of them compare to the heat the Prequels have taken, and those are some Truly Crappy movies.
But hey if you personally believe the Prequels were that bad, that's entirely your right to think so of course.
Though I do find it strange someone would talk Prequel era and characters day in and day out, for years on end in the Star Wars forum when they thought the movies were that bad.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
So clearly people thought ANH and ROTJ were shitty as well 👆 Don't forget your history.
Some people did and still do...
Originally posted by Darth Thor
There's a big difference between Movie critics and your GA. So you need to distinguish what "people" you're talking about here. Because I'm also "people." And I loved the Prequels.
Most people who dislike the prequels obviously...
Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's not much of a secret that Lucas isn't a popular guy in Hollywood.And say what you want, but I've never seen actual crappy movies take as much heat as Lucas has done with the prequels.
Not Spider-Man 3, Not Terminator 3, Not Iron Man 3, Not X-Men 3, Not Superman Returns... e.t.c. None of them compare to the heat the Prequels have taken, and those are some Truly Crappy movies.
But hey if you personally believe the Prequels were that bad, then go ahead.
But I do find it strange someone would talk Prequel era and characters day in and day out in the Star Wars forum when they thought the movies were that bad.
Please. It doesn't have to do with Lucas hate. They are bashed because they are such disappointments. The prequels aren't merely bad movies, but bad movies that are successors to some of the greatest films of all time. I doubt few people will honestly say they are the worst films of all time, but many will say they are the most disappointing. And it's not just one bad film, but three of them.
Originally posted by Firefly218I said it's the best of the Star Wars series not one of the best films of all time. Hayden is an awful actor and someone who took down the mystique of Vader by his lackluster performance. That being said Rots has a high rewatchability factor. Ian M.'s performance was exceptional in this film.
ROTS is definitely the best of the pt I'll say that. It still had shitty dialogue and other glaring flaws though.
Originally posted by ares834Please. It doesn't have to do with Lucas hate. They are bashed because they are such disappointments. The prequels aren't merely bad movies, but bad movies that are successors to some of the greatest films of all time. I doubt few people will honestly say they are the worst films of all time, but many will say they are the most disappointing. And it's not just one bad film, but three of them.
T1 and T2 are also amongst the best movies of all time. And they also have 3 Bad and Disappointing Sequels. Still they don't get the hate Lucas does for the Prequels.
As for the non-existent Lucas hate, I've seen movie reviewers who gave the Prequels positive reviews as they came out, but have magically done a 180 degree turn since. Hmm... Clearly nothing suspicious going on there.
Anyway those views are seriously objective. Aside from AOTC, the prequels did very well at the box office for their time period, and sold very well on VHS, Dvd and Blu-Ray on top. For movies that apparently hardly anyone likes, they sure did sell a lot. So this idea that "everyone thought those movies sucked" is seriously exaggerated.
It's mostly stemmed from film critics(who always hated SW) but this time joined with older fans of the OT who were butthurt they didn't get the same feeling all over again with the PT. End of the day that's always going to happen. Look at all the SW EU fans who are butthurt over the old EU being Non-Canon, and hating on Disney for it.
Your average movie goer whose hyped for Ep7 most likely enjoyed both the OT and the PT, or at least the majority of the SW films to date.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said it's the best of the Star Wars series not one of the best films of all time. Hayden is an awful actor and someone who took down the mystique of Vader by his lackluster performance. That being said Rots has a high rewatchability factor. Ian M.'s performance was exceptional in this film.
Nah Hayden was decent in ROTS. The scene between him and Palpatine in the Opera was really well done, and remains a classic in the entire franchise.
And if we're talking about the PT as a whole the following gave great performances:
Ewan Mcgregor, Frank Oz, Ray Park, Christopher Lee and Ian Mcdiarmid. So that's most the main heroes and villains.
As for the dialogue, Jar Jar's was bad (but still fun to play around with), and that was mainly all TPM. And the Love dialogue between Anakin and Padme was terrible, but that was mainly AOTC.
But ROTS didn't have much bad dialogue at all, and in fact had some great lines.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
So basically Lucas is being hated on for doing too good a job the first time around 👆
But fact is fact, to a lot of people Lucas ****ed up the prequels with some of his decisions.
Originally posted by Darth ThorHe was poor in practically every scene in the two films he was in. Ian was amazing in that scene. He was practically a robot at the end fuming at Obi and Padme. His line against Grievous saying he'd imagine he'd be taller makes me cringe every single time I watch it.
Nah Hayden was decent in ROTS. The scene between him and Palpatine in the Opera was really well done, and remains a classic in the entire franchise.And if we're talking about the PT as a whole the following gave great performances:
Ewan Mcgregor, Frank Oz, Ray Park, Christopher Lee and Ian Mcdiarmid. So that's most the main heroes and villains.
As for the dialogue, Jar Jar's was bad (but still fun to play around with), and that was mainly all TPM. And the Love dialogue between Anakin and Padme was terrible, but that was mainly AOTC.
But ROTS didn't have much bad dialogue at all, and in fact had some great lines.
You don't have to sell me on rots which I consider to be by far the most entertaining Star Wars film to date but Hayden ruined Vader for countless fans.