Strength Ranking:DCNU

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Strength Ranking:DCNU

Rank the mighty of the DCNU in terms of strength.

1.Apollo
2.Aquaman
3.Brutaal
4.Black Adam
5.Captain Marvel
6.Dr.Fate
7.Geo Force
8.Helspont
9 Majestic
10.Martian Manhunter
11.Orion
12.Superboy
13.Supergirl
14.Superman
15.Wonder Woman

Re: Strength Ranking:DCNU

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn

Rank the mighty of the DCNU in terms of strength.

(I left the people off my list that I've had little or no exposure to.)

1. Wonder Woman (uncuffed)
-- beat the goddess Artemis with ease
-- impressed the god Apollo

2. Superman (suncharged/sundipped)
-- beat the god Apollo

3. Apollo
-- swatted Superman away like a pest
(until accidentally supercharging Clark with concentrated sunlight)
-- beat cuffed Wonder Woman

4. Martian Manhunter
-- judging from JL8, held his own against the Justice League single-handedly

5. Wonder Woman (cuffed)
-- outmatched by the god Apollo
-- outmatched by the goddess Artemis
-- overpowers Faora
-- holds own with Zod
-- overpowers Supergirl

6. Supergirl (Matt Idelsen)

-- displays power greater than Superman had at the age she is from the moment she arrives on Earth
-- held as most powerful by WorldKillers DESPITE their knowing Superman is also on Earth
-- apparently possesses the innate ability to create self-empowering/repowering light energy


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Issue #2 pages were shown, and it includes the first time Supergirl meets her cousin, Superman.
"There's a certain distrust," Asrar said with a laugh as a slide was shown where Supergirl punches Superman.

"She's actually stronger than Kal-El," Idelson said.
Johnson said, "She came out of that pod ready to go, as people noticed," he said.

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http://www.newsarama.com/8536-nycc-2011-dc-all-access-superman-panel.html

7. Superman
-- has his arm broken casually by Zod, though Zod does not do the same against Wonder Woman

8. Black Adam
-- beaten by Ultraman who is, presumably, the rough equal of Superman

9. Supergirl (Eddie Berganza)

10. Aquaman

Your rankings are interesting.

Re: Re: Strength Ranking:DCNU

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
[b]1. Wonder Woman (uncuffed)
-- beat the goddess Artemis with ease
-- impressed the god Apollo

2. Superman (suncharged/sundipped)
-- beat the god Apollo [/B]

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Uncuffed WW got beat by the First Born. There is absolutely no reason to put her above the guy who wrecked Apollo.

But then you put WW above Superman so it's clear you're trolling or just have no clue what you are talking about.

Superman should be taken out of the list.

Bench pressing planet shits on everything here.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman should be taken out of the list.

Bench pressing planet shits on everything here.

Not just about that. You have to look at fights as well and looking at how easily Wonder Woman handled two Kryptonians, where one was actually choking Superman at the end of the battle, an argument can be made (she was literally tossing both Zod and Faora around like rag dolls).

SMH.

Zod breaking Superman's arm easily makes all the difference

Supes is #1

Originally posted by carver9
Not just about that. You have to look at fights as well and looking at how easily Wonder Woman handled two Kryptonians, where one was actually choking Superman at the end of the battle, an argument can be made (she was literally tossing both Zod and Faora around like rag dolls).

Yes. And then you look at how WW was outdone by Orion against the First Born, humiliated by Doomsday, etc... Nor does she have any strength feats near the caliber that Superman has showcased.

Wonder Woman is good. But when it comes to shear strength there is absolutely no reason to claim she is Superman's equal let alone superior.

well if we go by pure strength feats then kryptonians have everyone outclassed due to the Superman benchpressing the earth's weight stuff.

It all becomes more of a wash when you go by the win/loss record since the reboot.

Not really. Especially since it's made abundantly clear in the comic that Superman's loss isn't due to a lack of strength but rather a lack of training.

So many place strength as the most important thing in determining the winner of a fight. Strength is helpful but it alone don't always decides the Victor.

So please stop with the A beat B and thus A is stronger than B arguments. People lose fights FOR MANY DIFFERENT reasons outside strength.

Originally posted by ares834
Yes. And then you look at how WW was outdone by Orion against the First Born, humiliated by Doomsday, etc... Nor does she have any strength feats near the caliber that Superman has showcased.

Wonder Woman is good. But when it comes to shear strength there is absolutely no reason to claim she is Superman's equal let alone superior.

This type of argument is terrible. That's like me saying, looking at Superman fight against Zod, that alien unknown predator, not about to name all of his defeats but this doesn't make Superman look less powerful and Orion had the advantage against him in combat anyways and first born stomped both Orion and Wonder Woman.

Re: Strength Ranking:DCNU

Using all "base" versions.

Helspont - Backhanded Superman
Apollo - Backhanded Superman, but not as hard as Helspont
Superman
Orion - Fought Superman briefly, superior to WW against First Born
Captain Marvel - Briefly fought Superman, appeared relatively equal
Wonder Woman - Clearly inferior to Orion vs. First Born
Supergirl - Stopped reading her ongoing, but had nothing superior to Clark
Aquaman - Strong, but quite a bit below everyone else

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Not listed category
Brutaal - Hasn't been doing strength feats, has had no physical threat/test
Black Adam - Historically should be equal to Captain Marvel, but I'm not going to list him because of Ultraman beatdown
Dr. Fate - Has a whopping 0 strength feats
Geo Force - Not familiar with DCnU version
Majestic - Ditto
Martian Manhunter - Could speculate, but didn't have definitive strength feats
Superboy - Uses TK, not strength

Originally posted by ares834
Yes. And then you look at how WW was outdone by Orion against the First Born, humiliated by Doomsday, etc... Nor does she have any strength feats near the caliber that Superman has showcased.

Wonder Woman is good. But when it comes to shear strength there is absolutely no reason to claim she is Superman's equal let alone superior.

Lol...Superman didn't do anything to Doomsday either except get punched nearly out of orbit.

Wonder Woman never got the chance to bench press earth but looking at her fights, she is easily top tier and physically equal to the best.

Her battles fts easily puts her in the upper tier. She manhandled a GL while drop kicking Superman some distance.

Originally posted by carver9
This type of argument is terrible. That's like me saying, looking at Superman fight against Zod, that alien unknown predator, not about to name all of his defeats but this doesn't make Superman look less powerful and Orion had the advantage against him in combat anyways and first born stomped both Orion and Wonder Woman.

facepalm

My point is you (and many others) are only looking at a single fight to determine which is stronger. Looking at their feats/accolades holistically there is no doubt which is superior.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Superman didn't do anything to Doomsday either except get punched nearly out of orbit.

Not sure why you replied to the same comment twice but whatever.

While we haven't see it yet, we know Superman beats DD. His fight with Doomsday has been referenced in Morrison's Action Comics and Swamp Thing. The Doomsday comic has a prophetic vision of Superman defeating DD. And of course, the authors of the upcoming Doomsday arc have mentioned that Superman defeats him within the first comic.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman never got the chance to bench press earth but looking at her fights, she is easily top tier and physically equal to the best.

Her battles fts easily puts her in the upper tier. She manhandled a GL while drop kicking Superman some distance.

She is up there. I've said that. However, she isn't as strong as Superman.

Going by combats showings, strength feats(lifting, pushing, striking, pulling), and even statements from narration or characters, I can't see why anyone would pick someone else other than Clark.

Not saying he is or isn't the strongest but I wont fault anyone for saying Diana is either, or at least up there. They are treating Gods in DCNU like gold. Superman also referenced that Diana could have handled Apollo on her own "without an amp". She is getting her praise.

Originally posted by ares834
facepalm

My point is you (and many others) are only looking at a single fight to determine which is stronger. Looking at their feats/accolades holistically there is no doubt which is superior.

Not sure why you replied to the same comment twice but whatever.

While we haven't see it yet, we know Superman beats DD. His fight with Doomsday has been referenced in Morrison's Action Comics and Swamp Thing. The Doomsday comic has a prophetic vision of Superman defeating DD. And of course, the authors of the upcoming Doomsday arc have mentioned that Superman defeats him within the first comic.

She is up there. I've said that. However, she isn't as strong as Superman.

How does Superman beat Doomsday?.