Who wins the race: Surfer vs Flash

Started by Delta193828 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Nothing more than 10x the time (.0001)

Thanos' arm never budged during the entire trip. It was locked in relative time. It takes like 1/10 of a second to throw a punch and Thanos didn't even get to throw it. It's in the same ballpark of time Flash used but Surfer traveled tens of thousands of times the distance
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So, Thanos doesn't move AT ALL?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Nothing more than 10x the time (.0001)

Thanos' arm never budged during the entire trip. It was locked in relative time. It takes like 1/10 of a second to throw a punch and Thanos didn't even get to throw it. It's in the same ballpark of time Flash used but Surfer traveled tens of thousands of times the distance

Using warp speed

And Adam Warlocks ENTIRE PLAN depended on Norrin's speed.

With the stakes being as high as they were, that says a lot.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Nothing more than 10x the time (.0001)

Thanos' arm never budged during the entire trip. It was locked in relative time. It takes like 1/10 of a second to throw a punch and Thanos didn't even get to throw it. It's in the same ballpark of time Flash used but Surfer traveled tens of thousands of times the distance

http://i.imgur.com/7jhNl6g.jpg

Assuming I'm doing the math right, at 2.5 quintillion miles/ps. Flash was doing something like 400k lightyears per second.

And of course, Flash can also speedforce his way through time/space/dimension as well, so the warpspeed stuff doesn't mean much.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, Thanos doesn't move AT ALL?
Not until surfer traveled 99.99999999999 the distance. The gauntlet surely had something to do with it

10,000,000 x the distance Flash traveled

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not until surfer traveled 99.99999999999 the distance. The gauntlet surely had something to do with it

10,000,000 x the distance Flash traveled

Wait, I think I misunderstood your argument. Do you think both feats happen in about the same amount of time?

Not the same but it's in the same ball park.

A pro boxer takes 1/10 to throw a punch. Thanos just got his arm back to then throw it however time "froze" for them as Surfer traveled so it's really a guess at long it took for real, but I'm pretty sure the most staunch Surfer hater will not say it took anything more than what a human boxer could accomplish, then whatever fraction of the full motion

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not the same but it's in the same ball park.

A pro boxer takes 1/10 to throw a punch. Thanos just got his arm back to then throw it however time "froze" for them as Surfer traveled so it's really a guess at long it took for real, but I'm pretty sure the most staunch Surfer hater will not say it took anything more than what a human boxer could accomplish, then whatever fraction of the full motion

So when you said this--

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Nothing more than 10x the time (.0001)

You think it took that fraction of a second?

Sure, why not

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Sure, why not

That's only a 10,000th of a second. A microsecond is one millionth of a second.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/microsecond

The feat Flash did, the description wasn't a microsecond. It was at 100 thousandth of a microsecond. Note that the scan says .00001 microsecondS, plural.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

I'm doing the math right, that's one hundred billionth of a second. That's not in the same ballpark. That's not even in the same country.

It's crazy how he did that not even going the speed of light.

What a champ.

The Flash feat was just under light speed. Those people appeared away from the blast. All of them. Follow the subject. Then it states that they were carried one or two at a time. Same subject. Under light speed. The entire feat was under light speed.

Flash wins. Anybody saying otherwise is just stupid.

Originally posted by carver9
Someone forgot statement 3. Let me add that here.

Exactly.

Like your own post states - AFTER he was carrying people.

His last trip, OUT of the city (because, why would his last trip be back INTO the city???) would be him carrying someone.

UNDER the speed of light, as statement 2 said.

Not sure why you added it, but OK.

Let me couch it in terms you can understand.

A convo with my neighbour
[A winter's day at my house in NYC]

'Hey DS, what did you do last night?'

'Man, I drove to Boston and back again in like 6 hours. NEVER again!'

'Jeez, man, did you break any speed limits? Remember now, I'm a cop - legally, you can't lie to me!!'

'Well, when I drove back, I was just under the speed limit.'

[End scene]

Now, question, dear readers - Did DS break the speed limit at all? NYC to Boston and back again is 450 miles in total. Took me 6 hours. Speed limit on the freeway is 55mph in both NY and Mass.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Exactly.

Like your own post states - AFTER he was carrying people.

His last trip, OUT of the city (because, why would his last trip be back INTO the city???) would be him carrying someone.

UNDER the speed of light, as statement 2 said.

Not sure why you added it, but OK.

Let me couch it in terms you can understand.

[b]A convo with my neighbour
[A winter's day at my house in NYC]

'Hey DS, what did you do last night?'

'Man, I drove to Boston and back again in like 6 hours. NEVER again!'

'Jeez, man, did you break any speed limits? Remember now, I'm a cop - legally, you can't lie to me!!'

'Well, when I drove back, I was just under the speed limit.'

[End scene]

Now, question, dear readers - Did DS break the speed limit at all? NYC to Boston and back again is 450 miles in total. Took me 6 hours. Speed limit on the freeway is 55mph in both NY and Mass. [/B]

JEEZ MAN DID YOU BREAK ANY SPEED LIMITS

Shut it. My dialogue is on point 😠

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Exactly.

Like your own post states - AFTER he was carrying people.

His last trip, OUT of the city (because, why would his last trip be back INTO the city???) would be him carrying someone.

UNDER the speed of light, as statement 2 said.

Not sure why you added it, but OK.

Let me couch it in terms you can understand.

[b]A convo with my neighbour
[A winter's day at my house in NYC]

'Hey DS, what did you do last night?'

'Man, I drove to Boston and back again in like 6 hours. NEVER again!'

'Jeez, man, did you break any speed limits? Remember now, I'm a cop - legally, you can't lie to me!!'

'Well, when I drove back, I was just under the speed limit.'

[End scene]

Now, question, dear readers - Did DS break the speed limit at all? NYC to Boston and back again is 450 miles in total. Took me 6 hours. Speed limit on the freeway is 55mph in both NY and Mass. [/B]

The entirety of it was at sub light speeds if you ignore the calculations and just accept the dialog at face value.

But that's not what you nerds do.

Yeah, it would basically have to ignore the statements made earlier in the page.

But we can't ignore them. If Gladiator is said to have travelled 200 light years in a few minutes, that phucks with relativity...but we can't just dismiss it.

If Batman is said to be a normal human, yet can do all these kinds of weird shit, we can't ignore it.

If gamma radiation causes cancer in real life, but comics allows super strong green monsters with indestructible pants, we don't ignore it.

Mindset is actually debating? Looks like he's changed in more ways than becoming Mr. Cuddles.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, it would basically have to ignore the statements made earlier in the page.

But we can't ignore them. If Gladiator is said to have travelled 200 light years in a few minutes, that phucks with relativity...but we can't just dismiss it.

If Batman is said to be a normal human, yet can do all these kinds of weird shit, we can't ignore it.

If gamma radiation causes cancer in real life, but comics allows super strong green monsters with indestructible pants, we don't ignore it.

Likewise if a feat is said to happen at sub light speeds we take it that way

Exactly. It said they were carried there at sun light speed. NOBODY is ignoring this.

I 1000000% agree that they were carried there under light speed.

It's you (and others) who are ignoring everything else. You cant just ignore statement 1, when my explanation marries statements 1,2 and carver's 3.