Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Depends which Whedon we get. Whedon at his best can do some great things, but when he's suffering from fatigue, his projects are somewhat underwhelming. Well, at least to me personally. Age of Ultron, for example. I know a bunch of people love that film, but it didn't quite land with me like the first Avengers film did.
Yeah AOU was underwhelming. But then A1 was just amazing.
But looking at things like Buffy and Angel, as a whole they were great, so would love it if Whedon started spending time on Flash and Supergirl.
But just was not asking for his Flash/Supergirl directorial debut to be a musical.
I hate time travel.
The Wally and Sisko stuff was good, but overall it felt like a missed opportunity. Flashpoint should have been at least half a season, if not the entire thing.
And Barry's decision to hit the reset button made no sense at all. So Wally is hurt, but recovering. It's not like the entire multiverse was unraveling as far as Barry knew, and it should take no less to have his own mother put to death..
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The season started out a bit better than I thought, and I'm glad there's already more consequences to Barry's actions than expected, for first episode anyway, though still not sure I like where this season is headed. ermm Once again I'm rooting for the villain because of Barry's dumbassery I guess.
He wouldn't forget his mom, only his old timeline. He's still know everything in the new version, including his mom.
And even if he did lose all his memories, pretty sure that's a sacrifice he'd be willing to make for both parents (His father is dead in the old timeline).
Between that, Cisco being filthy stinking rich and successful, and Wally being Kid Flash, pretty much everybody makes out better in the Flashpoint verse. Barry taking that from them just to save his old memories of a dead universe would be a pretty dick move.
This didn't make sense to me. He starts losing his memories of his old reality which means his new reality becomes set in stone so therefore the only solution is to kill his mom? If that's the kind of writing to expect this season I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to keep on watching. I'm already not a fan of the time travel stuff.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
This didn't make sense to me. He starts losing his memories of his old reality which means his new reality becomes set in stone so therefore the only solution is to kill his mom? If that's the kind of writing to expect this season I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to keep on watching. I'm already not a fan of the time travel stuff.
He had to reset the timeline or he'd lose all his memories.
Why didn't he just type everything out that he remembers? It would take him five minutes and then he could stay in his happy place with his parents alive, getting married to Iris and the bad guy safely locked up. I really don't understand how losing your memories of a universe you don't live in is worth asking somebody to go and kill your mother. Whiny little millennial emo...
Originally posted by cdtm
Of the displaced timeline, which is what Reverse Flash told him. Just like the New 52 overwriting post crisis reality for comic Barry. He'd still keep everything about the new reality.
basically what Marwash said. Allen was selfish changing history, and now he's selfish changing it back, but he'd literally be a different person If he didn't reset the timeline.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Why didn't he just type everything out that he remembers? It would take him five minutes and then he could stay in his happy place with his parents alive, getting married to Iris and the bad guy safely locked up. I really don't understand how losing your memories of a universe you don't live in is worth asking somebody to go and kill your mother. Whiny little millennial emo...
That's a weird way to put it.
And besides, reading about a memory isn't the same as experiencing it.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's a weird way to put it.And besides, reading about a memory isn't the same as experiencing it.
What's weird about it? To me it seems fairly self-evident: On the one hand you are happy, your parents are alive and you are with the girl you love. Yes, you lose some memories but since those memories are of a place that doesn't exist anymore what does that matter? If you want to look up something just go read your notes that you made.
Instead, you decide that you don't want to be happy anymore because you won't remember people who live in a different time-loop so you go and ask the bad guy to please kill your mother.
I am really struggling to understand the reasoning behind this thought process.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
What's weird about it? To me it seems fairly self-evident: On the one hand you are happy, your parents are alive and you are with the girl you love. Yes, you lose some memories but since those memories are of a place that doesn't exist anymore what does that matter? If you want to look up something just go read your notes that you made.Instead, you decide that you don't want to be happy anymore because you won't remember people who live in a different time-loop so you go and ask the bad guy to please kill your mother.
I am really struggling to understand the reasoning behind this thought process.
No, he loses ALL memories, making his gesture pointless, as all he did, he did so he could see his parents again. Not to let alternate Barry see his parents again.
Him losing his memories and becoming other Barry makes his sacrifice pointless.
It doesn't help that the Kid Flash version of Wally was kind of at death's door in not healing. But other than that there wasn't really anything wrong with the new world that resulted in this Flashpoint unlike its comic book counterpart.
But I do wonder if Barry would still keep his speed if he fully assimilated into the new timeline. Since the particle acceleration never happens, least not in a way that gives new Barry powers, would he just become a different person entirely?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
It doesn't help that the Kid Flash version of Wally was kind of at death's door in not healing. But other than that there wasn't really anything wrong with the new world that resulted in this Flashpoint unlike its comic book counterpart.But I do wonder if Barry would still keep his speed if he fully assimilated into the new timeline. Since the particle acceleration never happens, least not in a way that gives new Barry powers, would he just become a different person entirely?
This was actually something I was wondering about. Maybe Wally wasn't healing properly because Barry, another Flash, was hogging the speedforce.