Originally posted by NemeBro
Ironman wasn't his ally at that point.Try harder little buddy.
Ironman had LOKI as a prisoner. It was obvious he wasn't an enemy, especially to the point of trying to rip his arms off or hit him with enough lightning to power his suit up to 400%. Especially Cap, someone who came down on a freaking parachute.
Originally posted by carver9
Ironman had LOKI as a prisoner. It was obvious he wasn't an enemy, especially to the point of trying to rip his arms off or hit him with enough lightning to power his suit up to 400%. Especially Cap, someone who came down on a freaking parachute.
Seeing as Ironman had just attacked Thor, how wasn't he an enemy?
BTW, it was 475%, you really need to watch the movie.
Originally posted by carver9
Ironman had LOKI as a prisoner. It was obvious he wasn't an enemy, especially to the point of trying to rip his arms off or hit him with enough lightning to power his suit up to 400%. Especially Cap, someone who came down on a freaking parachute.
The whole reason why Thor attacked is because Whedon is a hackhis mission is to retrieve the Macguffin and Loki and bring them home. For all he knew, they were his enemies, a third faction with bad intentions etc.
The situations are not comparable, and your assertion that they are just showcases how much you don't want to admit Thor was holding back.
Originally posted by NemeBro
And Thor viewed Loki as his responsibility, and Ironman as a troublesome mortal who needed to mind his own business (And who attacked him first). He was also clearly enraged while fighting Ironman, whereas against Hulk he was trying to placate him.Seriously, you have no argument, **** off. 👆
Lol, so he would do a death blow against Cap but hold back against a big green super strong monster that punched him through a wall?
Lol...he viewed Loki as his responsibility to the point that he was about to hit him before Ironman interrupted? Whats the difference between Ironman hitting him vs Hulk punching him through a wall?
By the way, you never have an argument.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
The whole reason why Thor attacked is becauseWhedon is a hackhis mission is to retrieve the Macguffin and Loki and bring them home. For all he knew, they were his enemies, a third faction with bad intentions etc.The situations are not comparable, and your assertion that they are just showcases how much you don't want to admit Thor was holding back.
So Thor doing a dive bomb hit on Cap, someone that said something about his hammer (and Cap would have died from that hit) is more crtical than what Hulk did against him?.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I guess being strangled by Mjolnir doesn't count, lolololol.What a bunch of dumb inbred charlatans.
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If he was choking Hulk for more than half a second before he was knocked on his ass you might have a point here.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
😕Thor was trying to talk him out of fighting. If it wasn't a sucker punch, then it was hitting Thor while Thor was not wanting to fight/holding back.
Well yeah... Thor was clearly holding back especially at that part. I've never said otherwise.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol, so he would do a death blow against Cap but hold back against a big green super strong monster that punched him through a wall?Lol...he viewed Loki as his responsibility to the point that he was about to hit him before Ironman interrupted? Whats the difference between Ironman hitting him vs Hulk punching him through a wall?
By the way, you never have an argument.
Again, Cap at the time had just attacked him and wasn't an ally, same with the Iron-man fight...The Hulk however was an ally...you really need to watch the movie.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Cap at the time had just attacked him and wasn't an ally, same with the Iron-man fight...The Hulk however was an ally...you really need to watch the movie.
So Thor would unleash and kill someone who's obviously isn't super human like Hulk but hold back against the Hulk (who he did a Ryu uppercut against). I'm trying to understand your logic.
Originally posted by carver9
So Thor would unleash and kill someone who's obviously isn't super human like Hulk but hold back against the Hulk (who he did a Ryu uppercut against). I'm trying to understand your logic.
Again, they weren't allies at the time, the Hulk was, please watch the movie before commenting on it in the future.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol, so he would do a death blow against Cap but hold back against a big green super strong monster that punched him through a wall?
Yes. 👆
Lol...he viewed Loki as his responsibility to the point that he was about to hit him before Ironman interrupted? Whats the difference between Ironman hitting him vs Hulk punching him through a wall?
A. He knew Banner wasn't in control of himself.
B. Banner was his ally, Ironman was not.
C. He was visibly enraged when he fought Ironman, which you acknowledge when you bring up him nearly hitting Loki in anger.
Thor was probably not hitting Thor with soft weak punches or hammer swings, no, but he wasn't bringing nearly his full power to bear. If he were, he would have thrown lightning, or maybe used wind.
By the way, you never have an argument.
You are a joke in all things.
Originally posted by ares834You do realize the scene cuts off when Thor starts choking him, right? mmm
mmmIf he was choking Hulk for more than half a second before he was knocked on his ass you might have a point here.
"Knocked on his ass" are actually the words used in the script though, amusingly.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes. 👆A. He knew Banner wasn't in control of himself.
B. Banner was his ally, Ironman was not.
C. He was visibly enraged when he fought Ironman, which you acknowledge when you bring up him nearly hitting Loki in anger.
Thor was probably not hitting Thor with soft weak punches or hammer swings, no, but he wasn't bringing nearly his full power to bear. If he were, he would have thrown lightning, or maybe used wind.
You are a joke in all things.
Lol...Thor was being manipulated by the Orb as well. You must forgot his scene in the room?
What was Ironman and Cap to him? He didn't even know them before trying to take their heads off.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Thor was being manipulated by the Orb as well. You must forgot his scene in the room?What was Ironman and Cap to him? He didn't even know them before trying to take their heads off.
Thor and the others got control of themselves when they realized what was going on, once again I must ask you to actually watch the movie before commenting on it.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...this doesn't make one bit of sense. It doesn't matter if he was trying to pick up the hammer to use it or not, what we know is, his attention wasn't on Thor during that time and Thor attacked him. Using your crazy sneak attack way of debating, those points does not count.Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they are not combating...what's wrong with you? Loki was looking right at Hulk when he got blitzed and didn't even see it coming. Then, what in the world are you talking about when it comes to fighting stance? This is Loki that we are talking about, not Bruce Lee. He wasn't in a fighting stance when he stabbed that guy in the back and he sure as hell wasn't in a fighting stance when he attacked Captain America. You are full of excuses, that's all I'm getting from you when I debate. How about this, show me Loki being in a fighting stance. Also, he was talking when he faced the frost Giants, Captain America, and the shield agents.
Abomination was talking when he fought Hulk in the movie...I guess that means he wasn't there to fight. Those is by far the weirdest debate I've been in. I am literally about to make a thread concerning this nonsense.
When someone is clearly fighting you, yet his attention wanders and you hit him while he's out of focus, that's a valid shot (Thor kneeing Hulk). But when someone is clearly not trying to fight and you hit him anyway, then that IS a sucker punch (like Hulk attacking Loki).
It's common sense dude. Really, your Hulk fanaticism is showing.
Now again I reiterate, Loki had it coming and I'm glad Hulk did what he did. But to assume that Hulk could have done the same thing to Loki had Loki been ready to fight would be stupid. This whole argument started when you tried to say that Hulk was faster than Loki... and that's just retarded. Hulk caught Loki unawares, that doesn't mean his combat speed is higher than Loki's.