Originally posted by carver9
So Thor would unleash and kill someone who's obviously isn't super human like Hulk but hold back against the Hulk (who he did a Ryu uppercut against). I'm trying to understand your logic.
He did pretty much exactly that against the Frost Giant that called him a princess. Thor will not hesitate to kill when pissed off or insulted so it fits him he attacked Iron Man and Cap before they became a team. Not the case with Banner.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Any allegations that Thor was holding back are assumptions. Any allegations that Hulk was holding back are also assumptions.It is clear Hulk hurt Thor more than Thor hurt Hulk. Yes, Thor hit Hulk more - but his hits were less effective.
No, the movie made it very clear that Thor was holding back.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Any allegations that Thor was holding back are assumptions. Any allegations that Hulk was holding back are also assumptions.It is clear Hulk hurt Thor more than Thor hurt Hulk. Yes, Thor hit Hulk more - but his hits were less effective.
It is also your own assumptions that Hulk hurt Thor more. Because at the end of the fight, both of them were uninjured and were easily moving around.
Originally posted by Firefly218
No. Thor had visible injury. Hulk had no visible injury.
Thor had a smudge of blood on his nose after the punch. But his nose didn't continue to bleed did it not? In fact, after he wiped it off there was no bleeding anymore.
So like I said, at the end of the fight, both were uninjured, unless you can provide proof that Thor's nose continued to bleed.
Originally posted by carver9Exactly, which means that Thor had no reason to spare the lives of enemies whose identities he didn't know. 👆
Lol...Thor was being manipulated by the Orb as well. You must forgot his scene in the room?What was Ironman and Cap to him? He didn't even know them before trying to take their heads off.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor had a smudge of blood on his nose after the punch. But his nose didn't continue to bleed did it not? In fact, after he wiped it off there was no bleeding anymore.So like I said, at the end of the fight, both were uninjured, unless you can provide proof that Thor's nose continued to bleed.
Injury is not defined by the presence of blood.
In order for that blood to come out in the first place, Thor must have had some tissue damage.
The only proof we have of injury is that of Thor's, Hulk had no apparent tissue damage.
Therefore, it's only logical that Hulk's hits did more damage than Thor's
Originally posted by Firefly218
Injury is not defined by the presence of blood.In order for that blood to come out in the first place, Thor must have had some tissue damage.
The only proof we have of injury is that of Thor's, Hulk had no apparent tissue damage.
Therefore, it's only logical that Hulk's hits did more damage than Thor's
So you're giving the Hulk the win based on a drop of blood that was a result of hit that the Hulk only managed to get because Thor was trying to talk him down?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor had a smudge of blood on his nose after the punch. But his nose didn't continue to bleed did it not? In fact, after he wiped it off there was no bleeding anymore.So like I said, at the end of the fight, both were uninjured, unless you can provide proof that Thor's nose continued to bleed.
You do know blood means injury, right?
Originally posted by Firefly218
Injury is not defined by the presence of blood.In order for that blood to come out in the first place, Thor must have had some tissue damage.
The only proof we have of injury is that of Thor's, Hulk had no apparent tissue damage.
Therefore, it's only logical that Hulk's hits did more damage than Thor's
Visibility is not a conclusive indicator of injury. In any case, this is a red herring; Thor was doing very well in the fight while clearly holding back. And not just holding back a little; a lot.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Injury is not defined by the presence of blood.In order for that blood to come out in the first place, Thor must have had some tissue damage.
The only proof we have of injury is that of Thor's, Hulk had no apparent tissue damage.
Therefore, it's only logical that Hulk's hits did more damage than Thor's
So basically if we got into a fight but none of us have any injury except for a mild scratch you have on your knee from when I slammed you on the ground, that would mean you lost the fight?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Exactly, which means that Thor had no reason to spare the lives of enemies whose identities he didn't know. 👆
So you expect me to believe that the 99.9% of Thor fights, he fought to destroy his opponents but this one time, be held back because he said a sentence to Hulk? Ok, that makes sense.
Originally posted by carver9
So you expect me to believe that the 99.9% of Thor fights, he fought to destroy his opponents but this one time, be held back because he said a sentence to Hulk? Ok, that makes sense.
No, we expect you to believe this time he held back because he was being forced to fight a team mate.
Originally posted by carver9To be honest I don't think he was going all-out on Tony either, because when Thor goes all-out, the surrounding area gets destroyed.
So you expect me to believe that the 99.9% of Thor fights, he fought to destroy his opponents but this one time, be held back because he said a sentence to Hulk? Ok, that makes sense.
Originally posted by NemeBro
To be honest I don't think he was going all-out on Tony either, because when Thor goes all-out, the surrounding area gets destroyed.
At the beginning of the fight, Thor did mention that he had no quarrel with the human. I do think he was taking it easier on Hulk (at first) than on IM, but I doubt he was going all out as well.
If any, I don't think he was taking Tony seriously at all. It wasn't till the end that he really starts getting pissed... which is probably why he attacked Cap the way that he did.
Originally posted by carver9
So you expect me to believe that the 99.9% of Thor fights, he fought to destroy his opponents but this one time, be held back because he said a sentence to Hulk? Ok, that makes sense.
Or the fact he was fighting among people he's sworn to protect and going all out would have equated to every human on the carrior dying and possibly anyone unfortunate enough to be on the ground if it happend to crash on land.
I used to think similar, that the helicarrier fight was proof (film) Hulk would beat the piss out of Thor, but it's faulty thinking.