Originally posted by carver9
What proof do you have that Thor fought a stronger Hulk?In regards to his strength, the Worm busting ft that would have laid waste to the hellicarrier.
In regards to speed, the blitz on Loki, the same Loki who matched Thor h2h?
Blitz on Loki? Lol. You seriously need to watch that scene again. Hulk blitzed no one. Loki was busy talking when Hulk cheap shot him. Granted, that was Loki's fault for trying to talk down to Hulk. Still doesn't change the fact that Loki wasn't even trying to fight Hulk when he got cheap shot.
You can't really say Hulk was stronger just because of the leviathan punch, simply because the only person he punched in the hellicarrier was Thor.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Sorry, but I'm still buying the argument that the Hulk not being angry enough to lose control makes him stronger than when he's an out of control rage monster.
There you go putting words in my mouth again. Do I have to post a sign language pic for you. Here it is again...
A Hulk that has better control of his rage...can amp it up when he wants to is more powerful than a Hulk that we have no clue on how mad he is and DOESNT have control of his powers.
I know this is hard for you to comprehend since you are voting for Thor but, I'm not going to keep repeating this.
Then based off fts from the Hulk that fought Thor (the same Hulk that it took numerous of hits to take out a jet) vs the one that punch would have wrecked the hellicarrier, its pretty obvious what I am saying is true.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Blitz on Loki? Lol. You seriously need to watch that scene again. Hulk blitzed no one. Loki was busy talking when Hulk cheap shot him. Granted, that was Loki's fault for trying to talk down to Hulk. Still doesn't change the fact that Loki wasn't even trying to fight Hulk when he got cheap shot.You can't really say Hulk was stronger just because of the leviathan punch, simply because the only person he punched in the hellicarrier was Thor.
LOL...is that your entire argument...everything is a cheap shot? Loki was looking right at him when he was talking. Why wouldn't he want to fight someone that punched him through a window. You are full of excuses.
LOL...Hulk punched a jet as well...my bad, he punched at it NUMEROUS of times.
What other excuses do you have (lol, holding back and surprised attacks)?
Originally posted by carver9
LOL...is that your entire argument...everything is a cheap shot? Loki was looking right at him when he was talking. Why wouldn't he want to fight someone that punched him through a window. You are full of excuses.LOL...Hulk punched a jet as well...my bad, he punched at it NUMEROUS of times.
What other excuses do you have (lol, holding back and surprised attacks)?
Loki was in the middle of a sentence when Hulk grabbed him. He wasn't in a fighting stance, he wasn't attacking. Like I said, I don't blame Hulk, it was Loki's fault. Still the point remains that Hulk attacked Loki when Loki wasn't trying to fight. So only an idiot would call that blitzing.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Loki was in the middle of a sentence when Hulk grabbed him. He wasn't in a fighting stance, he wasn't attacking. Like I said, I don't blame Hulk, it was Loki's fault. Still the point remains that Hulk attacked Loki when Loki wasn't trying to fight. So only an idiot would call that blitzing.
I'm glad you brought that up. We are about to find out how much of a hypocrite you are. Using your type of argument, Thor only got two LEGIT hits on Hulk. Let me break this down to see if I am correct. These are all of the hits that Thor got on Hulk...
Thor attacks Hulk while he is about to pimp slap BW. Dont count.
Thor punch Hulk after they break through the wall. count
Thor hit Hulk with an uppercut. Count.
Thor knee and choke Hulk while he is trying to pick up his hammer and Hulk wasn't looking at Thor either. Dont count.
After this, Thor gets thrashed. With that said, Hulk got in the most LEGIT hits. Dont you agree?
Originally posted by carver9
There you go putting words in my mouth again. Do I have to post a sign language pic for you. Here it is again...A Hulk that has better control of his rage...can amp it up when he wants to is more powerful than a Hulk that we have no clue on how mad he is and DOESNT have control of his powers.
I know this is hard for you to comprehend since you are voting for Thor but, I'm not going to keep repeating this.
Then based off fts from the Hulk that fought Thor (the same Hulk that it took numerous of hits to take out a jet) vs the one that punch would have wrecked the hellicarrier, its pretty obvious what I am saying is true.
Again, I'm not buying your argument that the Hulk not being angry enough to lose control makes him stronger than when he's an out of control rage monster
Originally posted by carver9
I'm glad you brought that up. We are about to find out how much of a hypocrite you are. Using your type of argument, Thor only got two LEGIT hits on Hulk. Let me break this down to see if I am correct. These are all of the hits that Thor got on Hulk...Thor attacks Hulk while he is about to pimp slap BW. Dont count.
Thor punch Hulk after they break through the wall. count
Thor hit Hulk with an uppercut. Count.
Thor knee and choke Hulk while he is trying to pick up his hammer and Hulk wasn't looking at Thor either. Dont count.After this, Thor gets thrashed. With that said, Hulk got in the most LEGIT hits. Dont you agree?
You sure have some messed up memories of that fight.
Thor tackles Hulk through the wall. Doesn't count
Thor punches Hulk AFTER Hulk throws a punch that was dodged. Count.
Thor hit Hulk with an uppercut. Count.
Thor knees Hulk while Hulk is trying to grab a weapon. Count (Hulk is fully in the fight now and is not trying to reason with Thor or anything).
Thor puts a chokehold on Hulk after Hulk is stunned. Count.
Hulk gets one slam and one throw on Thor.
You sure have some messed up memories of that fight.
Thor tackles Hulk through the wall. Doesn't count
Thor punches Hulk AFTER Hulk throws a punch that was dodged. Count.
Thor hit Hulk with an uppercut. Count.
Thor knees Hulk while Hulk is trying to grab a weapon. Count (Hulk is fully in the fight now and is not trying to reason with Thor or anything).
Thor puts a chokehold on Hulk after Hulk is stunned. Count.
Hulk gets one slam and one throw on Thor.
Correction to the above since you aren't looking at it right. Hulk was clearly trying to lift Thor hammer when Thor kneed him and tried to choke him. His attention was towards Thor hammer. He even looks down at it while trying to lift it.
The knee and the choke doesn't count since Thor hit a Hulk that wasn't paying him any attention. The clip is on page 4 of this thread. Also, Hulk hit Thor 4 times.
Originally posted by Firefly218
Thor's hardest hit with Mjolnir did nothing but make Hulk angrier. If you go back and watch the scene, Thor was actually harmed while Hulk was unscathed.Also you can clearly see Hulk was not at his anger potential
Here is the vid for you again if you need to see it.
Originally posted by carver9
You sure have some messed up memories of that fight.Thor tackles Hulk through the wall. Doesn't count
Thor punches Hulk AFTER Hulk throws a punch that was dodged. Count.
Thor hit Hulk with an uppercut. Count.
Thor knees Hulk while Hulk is trying to grab a weapon. Count (Hulk is fully in the fight now and is not trying to reason with Thor or anything).
Thor puts a chokehold on Hulk after Hulk is stunned. Count.Hulk gets one slam and one throw on Thor.
Correction to the above since you aren't looking at it right. Hulk was clearly trying to lift Thor hammer when Thor kneed him and tried to choke him. His attention was towards Thor hammer. He even looks down at it while trying to lift it.
The knee and the choke doesn't count since Thor hit a Hulk that wasn't paying him any attention. The clip is on page 4 of this thread. Also, Hulk hit Thor 4 times.
Yes Hulk was paying attention to the hammer. The difference here is that he's trying to pick up the hammer to use in the fight.... Thor/Loki was trying to talk to him. See the difference?
If someone was picking up a hammer to try and hit me with, I'd sure as hell punch him first. If someone was trying to talk to me though, punching him would make me an *******.
It's not whether your attention was on your opponent or not. It's whether your intention was to fight or not. Hulk was clearly trying to fight. Thor/Loki was trying to talk. See the difference?