Originally posted by carver9
HUH? A Hulk that has complete control of his power and said that he can control his anger is less powerful than a Hulk that doesn't have control? Didn't you also say that theres no proof that Hulk strength increase with rage? Lets not turn into a hypocrite when something is used against you.
So you're saying the Hulk doesn't get stronger the madder he gets?
Originally posted by carver9
HUH? A Hulk that has complete control of his power and said that he can control his anger is less powerful than a Hulk that doesn't have control? Didn't you also say that theres no proof that Hulk strength increase with rage? Lets not turn into a hypocrite when something is used against you.
I'm not the one who said movie Hulk doesn't get stronger the angrier he gets. What I said was that Hulk's anger isn't limitless, so he probably can't get much angrier than he already was when he was about to go apeshit on BW.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm not the one who said movie Hulk doesn't get stronger the angrier he gets. What I said was that Hulk's anger isn't limitless, so he probably can't get much angrier than he already was when he was about to go apeshit on BW.
Again, a Hulk that has complete control of his power is less powerful than a Hulk thats brutish? The Hulk at the end showed more speed AND strength. This Hulk would have destroyed the hellicarrier...with a single punch.
Originally posted by carver9
Again, a Hulk that has complete control of his power is less powerful than a Hulk thats brutish? The Hulk at the end showed more speed AND strength. This Hulk would have destroyed the hellicarrier...with a single punch.
So your argument is that the calmer Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets?
Originally posted by Silent Master
He was calm enough to control his anger, unlike when he was trying to kill his friends..so again, your argument is that him being calmer actually boosted his strength.
Where did you get that from? What I got from it is, he directed his rage towards the enemy instead of his comrades. Is that not what you got from it? Why would he say, "I stay mad" if he is a calm Hulk? Does that even make sense to you?
This is the common sense answer. A Hulk that knows how to control his power>>>>a Hulk thats out of control.
Originally posted by carver9
Where did you get that from? What I got from it is, he directed his rage towards the enemy instead of his comrades. Is that not what you got from it? Why would he say, "I stay mad" if he is a calm Hulk? Does that even make sense to you?This is the common sense answer. A Hulk that knows how to control his power>>>>a Hulk that out of control.
Exactly, in the helicarrier he was so angry that he lost control, as opposed to the final battle where his anger never got out of control. so you're arguing that anger past a certain point actually makes him weaker.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly, in the helicarrier he was so angry that he lost control, as opposed to the final battle where his anger never got out of control. so you're arguing that anger past a certain point actually makes him weaker.
What are you talking about? He didn't lose control, he was being manipulated? And how in the world can a Hulk that isn't in control of his power be more powerful than a Hulk that has complete control of his power? You're honestly not making any sense right now.
Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about? He didn't lose control, he was being manipulated? And how in the world can a Hulk that isn't in control of his power be more powerful than a Hulk that has complete control of his power? You're honestly not making any sense right now.
Going by comic book lore, the angrier Hulk gets the stronger he gets. And the angriest Hulk gets is when he's completely berserk that he attacks friend and foe alike.
Now an argument can be made that movie Hulk's strength may not increase as he gets stronger, but saying that he gets stronger the more in control he is is completely baseless and totally opposite of how Hulk's powers should work.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Going by comic book lore, the angrier Hulk gets the stronger he gets. And the angriest Hulk gets is when he's completely berserk that he attacks friend and foe alike.Now an argument can be made that movie Hulk's strength may not increase as he gets stronger, but saying that he gets stronger the more in control he is is completely baseless and totally opposite of how Hulk's powers should work.
When did I say anything about Hulk strength not increasing with rage? What I am telling you is, Hulk had more control during the end, and he did. What I am also telling you is, looking at what Hulk displayed during the end 'when he had more control of his power', its dead on proof that he was more powerful than a Hulk that was fighting blindly 'while being manipulated by an orb.
Originally posted by Silent Master
That's carver for you, somehow the Hulk not being angry enough to lose control makes him stronger than when he's an out of control rage monster.I don't buy his argument either.
Not being angry enough to lose control? What are you talking about? What I am telling you is, a Hulk that has better control of his power is more powerful than a Hulk that doesn't have control of his power. Do I really need to give an example for my argument. Hell, let me do it.
World Breaker Hulk is a Hulk that has completely control of his rage. Savage Hulk is an uncontrollable Hulk. Professor Hulk (one of the most powerful versions of Hulks) has control of his rage, Savage Hulk doesn't. This is simple. Both WBH and Professor Hulk is more powerful than Savage Hulk. Being an uncontrollable brute doesn't mean that you are more powerful...especially in Hulks case.
Originally posted by carver9
When did I say anything about Hulk strength not increasing with rage? What I am telling you is, Hulk had more control during the end, and he did. What I am also telling you is, looking at what Hulk displayed during the end 'when he had more control of his power', its dead on proof that he was more powerful than a Hulk that was fighting blindly 'while being manipulated by an orb.
What proof do you have that he was stronger and faster in the end?
Originally posted by FrothByte
What proof do you have that he was stronger and faster in the end?
What proof do you have that Thor fought a stronger Hulk?
In regards to his strength, the Worm busting ft that would have laid waste to the hellicarrier.
In regards to speed, the blitz on Loki, the same Loki who matched Thor h2h?
Originally posted by carver9
Not being angry enough to lose control? What are you talking about? What I am telling you is, a Hulk that has better control of his power is more powerful than a Hulk that doesn't have control of his power. Do I really need to give an example for my argument. Hell, let me do it.World Breaker Hulk is a Hulk that has completely control of his rage. Savage Hulk is an uncontrollable Hulk. Professor Hulk (one of the most powerful versions of Hulks) has control of his rage, Savage Hulk doesn't. This is simple. Both WBH and Professor Hulk is more powerful than Savage Hulk. Being an uncontrollable brute doesn't mean that you are more powerful...especially in Hulks case.
I'm talking about the movie, maybe you should watch it.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm talking about the movie, maybe you should watch it.
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It doesn't matter what you are talking about when my argument is pretty much true. If Banner knows how to control his rage, why would he be less powerful than a Hulk that we have no idea on HOW powerful he was (the one that fought Thor).