Originally posted by iceman24567absurd? We go by feats to prove things here. Thor beheaded Desak. That's his greatest feat of power output. You are saying that it's enough to Damage Hulk and win.
Stating these things as if they are fact is absurd and Thor wins 👆
What durability feats does the destroyer and Desak have that's beyond billions of times greater than planet destroying? Because this is the force that Hulk tanked. Thor would have to exert a power greater, but he has no feats to form this basis.
Finally, Thor has no durability feats of tanking that level of power. So again there is no basis for him to survive 1 hulk punch.
Originally posted by h1a8For one regular Thor has feats that put his King Thor incarnation to shame and two the calculation you make are utter bullshit and three Thor has beaten skyfathers level characters before. Hulk is pretty much a floating green rock the older wiser Thor will use this to his advantage and win. I dont see Hulk winning even once since Thor outmatches him at every turn. So again stop stating your misguided opinions as fact its disturbing.
absurd? We go by feats to prove things here. Thor beheaded Desak. That's his greatest feat of power output. You are saying that it's enough to Damage Hulk and win.What durability feats does the destroyer and Desak have that's beyond billions of times greater than planet destroying? Because this is the force that Hulk tanked. Thor would have to exert a power greater, but he has no feats to form this basis.
Finally, Thor has no durability feats of tanking that level of power. So again there is no basis for him to survive 1 hulk punch.
Originally posted by h1a8
1. How can saying "I doubt" be a lie? That's impossible. Also you never proved that Cap has affected very high class 100s with his feet and fists.
Originally posted by h1a8
A class 100 is not necessarily a High Class 100.
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2. Hitting something with a big ass hammer does far more damage than hitting it with one's fists. This is common sense.
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3. It was a moon because that's what the writer wrote. Worlds can be moons, planets, stars, etc. Thor thought it was an empty moon. But rather it was a non empty moon. Moons in comics are inhabited (like Titan of Saturn).
We go by writer's intentions here. If the writer wanted it to be clearly a planet then he would have wrote "planet" instead of "moon"
What does that Titan example prove? The answer is; absolutely nothing whatsoever. Especially when one considers the fact that it's much bigger than Earth's moon, and that not all moons are made equal.
The writer later called it a world in the very next page. If you want to about partaking in the sort of mental gymnastics which would put a monkey to shame, then be my guest. In the meantime, try to prove your fallacy-ridden claims with actual on-panel evidence for once in your life.
Also, start reading comics. It's pretty awful that you debate on a Comic book forum despite never having read even a single comic in your life.👇
Originally posted by EpicurusAgreed h1 should read comics 👆
It is a lie due to the strong worded nature of the comment.So you're a high class ape then. Good to know.
Lol, still clinging to that ridiculous claim that Mjolnir somehow amps Thor's swinging strength exponentially. Do you even have the slightest bit of proof regarding such a silly notion?
The writer had Thor admitting in the very same panel that he was mistaken about the moon. Let's count the number of times a world has been shown to be a planet on-panel as compared to the number of times it's been shown as a star in comic books. I am pretty sure that the former could be counted on one hand while the latter would take a computer, lol.
What does that Titan example prove? The answer is; absolutely nothing whatsoever. Especially when one considers the fact that it's much bigger than Earth's moon, and that not all moons are made equal.
The writer later called it a world in the very next page. If you want to about partaking in the sort of mental gymnastics which would put a monkey to shame, then be my guest. In the meantime, try to prove your fallacy-ridden claims with actual on-panel evidence for once in your life.
Also, start reading comics. It's pretty awful that you debate on a Comic book forum despite never having read even a single comic in your life.👇
Originally posted by iceman24567Thor has no feats in the vicinity of KT beheading Destroyer, or destroying adamantium or Caps shield.
For one regular Thor has feats that put his King Thor incarnation to shame and two the calculation you make are utter bullshit and three Thor has beaten skyfathers level characters before. Hulk is pretty much a floating green rock the older wiser Thor will use this to his advantage and win. I dont see Hulk winning even once since Thor outmatches him at every turn. So again stop stating your misguided opinions as fact its disturbing.
Characters power level fluctuate in comics. So beating a character doesn't prove anything in itself. Spider-man beat firelord. That doesn't mean Spidey was hitting with planets of force.
Destroying something without touching it from hundreds of yards away requires astronomical more force than destroying it by hitting it directly. That's common sense and doesn't require calculations.
Hulk is stronger and more durable by feats. Thor likes to melee a lot. I don't see how KT out classes Hulk.
Originally posted by Epicurushigh class 100 is having billions of tons to planetary strength. Mid class 100 is having 10,000 to billions of tons of strength. Low class 100 is having 101 tons to 10,000 tons strength.
It is a lie due to the strong worded nature of the comment.So you're a high class ape then. Good to know.
Lol, still clinging to that ridiculous claim that Mjolnir somehow amps Thor's swinging strength exponentially. Do you even have the slightest bit of proof regarding such a silly notion?
The writer had Thor admitting in the very same panel that he was mistaken about the moon. Let's count the number of times a world has been shown to be a planet on-panel as compared to the number of times it's been shown as a star in comic books. I am pretty sure that the former could be counted on one hand while the latter would take a computer, lol.
What does that Titan example prove? The answer is; absolutely nothing whatsoever. Especially when one considers the fact that it's much bigger than Earth's moon, and that not all moons are made equal.
The writer later called it a world in the very next page. If you want to about partaking in the sort of mental gymnastics which would put a monkey to shame, then be my guest. In the meantime, try to prove your fallacy-ridden claims with actual on-panel evidence for once in your life.
Also, start reading comics. It's pretty awful that you debate on a Comic book forum despite never having read even a single comic in your life.👇
Show me Cap affecting a HIGH CLASS 100 being with his feet and fists.
Or even a mid class 100.
It was a moon because the writer said so. It was his intention. It was inhabited though.
Destroying something with a big ass indestructible hammer takes less strength than destroying it with your fists. Mjolnir amps Thor's punching strength, not his swinging strength. So if Thor did x tons worth of damage with Mjolnir then he applied less than that with his strength.
Originally posted by h1a8
high class 100 is having billions of tons to planetary strength. Mid class 100 is having 10,000 to billions of tons of strength. Low class 100 is having 101 tons to 10,000 tons strength.Show me Cap affecting a HIGH CLASS 100 being with his feet and fists.
Or even a mid class 100.It was a moon because the writer said so. It was his intention. It was inhabited though.
Destroying something with a big ass indestructible hammer takes less strength than destroying it with your fists. Mjolnir amps Thor's punching strength, not his swinging strength. So if Thor did x tons worth of damage with Mjolnir then he applied less than that with his strength.
Hulk. Point proven.
The writer said something else entirely. You misconstruing it to suit your petty argument is awful.
So, you aren't going to bring up proof that Mjolnir amps the strength of Thor's arm? Thought so. Lol, you mean to tell me that Thor's punches with Mjolnir instead of his fists now? What sort of backwards ass, bovine-crap ridden logic is that?
Originally posted by Epicurusyes Hulk can range from low class 100 to high class 100. His strength is dynamic and not static. So Cap affecting him doesn't mean Hulk was operating at billions of tons of strength. On average Hulk is between 1000-10,000 tons (or low class 100).
Banner-Hulk had billions of tons of strength when he held up that mountain. LOL.Hulk. Point proven.
The writer said something else entirely. You misconstruing it to suit your petty argument is awful.
So, you aren't going to bring up proof that Mjolnir amps the strength of Thor's arm? Thought so. Lol, you mean to tell me that Thor's punches with Mjolnir instead of his fists now? What sort of backwards ass, bovine-crap ridden logic is that?
You are not understanding me. If it takes 10 tons to destroy something with your fists then it takes less than that to do with a hammer. We must take away from Thor's feats with Mjolnir to prove strength. Also Mjolnir has feats of damaging shit without Thor using any strength.
Let's just agree to disagree about the moon thing.
The feat was impressive but not close to what Hulk did. It took many hits, Thor used a device instead of his fists, and it cracked a small portion of the planet and moon.
Originally posted by h1a8
yes Hulk can range from low class 100 to high class 100.
Originally posted by h1a8
You are not understanding me.
Originally posted by h1a8
The feat was impressive but not close to what Hulk did. It took many hits, Thor used a device instead of his fists, and it cracked a small portion of the planet and moon.
And King Thor is far, far more powerful than regular Thor, lol.
Originally posted by Epicurus
That was a low end Hulk, you ignorable kook.I perfectly am. Enough to understand that your psedoscientific garbage doesn't hold upto scrutiny in a comic book debate. Now either shut up with this nonsense and try debating the actual matter at hand, or concede.
The narrative explicitly says that their struggle was shattering worlds in the neighboring space. It's every bit as impressive as the WBH/Rulkette throwdown. Pretending it isn't is downright trolling.
And King Thor is far, far more powerful than regular Thor, lol.
It's not that impressive because Thor used a plot device to achieve it vs. his fists and he used many blows to achieve it instead of one, and he only cracked a small portion of a planet and moon instead of completely destroying them. The shattering of world's term was describing him cracking the planet they were above and the moon not far off and nothing more. You can't prove it was other world's than those two since two worlds shown satisfy the plural.
WBH used pure strength (no magical indestructible hammers), and in one blow (not many) he absolutely shattered the planet completely (not cracked) while disintegrating thousands of beings whose totality was beyond a skyfather.
You saying it is just as impressive means that you are trolling or you are an idiot (no offense). Note: an idiot is far worst than a troll.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's not that impressive because Thor used a plot device to achieve it vs. his fists and he used many blows to achieve it instead of one, and he only cracked a small portion of a planet and moon instead of completely destroying them. The shattering of world's term was describing him cracking the planet they were above and the moon not far off and nothing more. You can't prove it was other world's than those two since two worlds shown satisfy the plural.WBH used pure strength (no magical indestructible hammers), and in one blow (not many) he absolutely shattered the planet completely (not cracked) while disintegrating thousands of beings whose totality was beyond a skyfather.
You saying it is just as impressive means that you are trolling or you are an idiot (no offense). Note: an idiot is far worst than a troll.
Don't forget, WBH had with him a being of equal strength and fist durability, which would've served the same purposes as Thor with Mjolnir (i.e. Betty was magically amped by the wishing well to be, in effect, a magical indestructible hammer. One who also had a strength level equal to WBH's).
Originally posted by h1a8Thor was also much further away from the planet he and Gorr were cracking than WBH was from the world he broke with Betty.
It's not that impressive because Thor used a plot device to achieve it vs. his fists and he used many blows to achieve it instead of one, and he only cracked a small portion of a planet and moon instead of completely destroying them. The shattering of world's term was describing him cracking the planet they were above and the moon not far off and nothing more. You can't prove it was other world's than those two since two worlds shown satisfy the plural.WBH used pure strength (no magical indestructible hammers), and in one blow (not many) he absolutely shattered the planet completely (not cracked) while disintegrating thousands of beings whose totality was beyond a skyfather.
You saying it is just as impressive means that you are trolling or you are an idiot (no offense). Note: an idiot is far worst than a troll.
That Thor used his hammer is frankly irrelevant. Thor's hammer is part of his basic equipment, and it amplifies his effective striking power considerably. Enough so that he can crack planets from thousands of miles away. Accidentally.
Originally posted by NemeBroThor and Gorr were just a few feet above the planet. Hulk was hundreds of yards away.
Thor was also much further away from the planet he and Gorr were cracking than WBH was from the world he broke with Betty.That Thor used his hammer is frankly irrelevant. Thor's hammer is part of his basic equipment, and it amplifies his effective striking power considerably. Enough so that he can crack planets from thousands of miles away. Accidentally.
Also we are arguing Thor's physical strength vs. Hulks. Feats with Mjolnir are now relevant. But I get your point as its all about being formidable. Note: Thor can drop Mjolnir if he is rocked hard enough. Or have it hit away from him. This is a weakness.
It cracked a moon thousands of miles away. But it took many blows. HULK also cracked the moon that was thousands of miles away from the planet he completely destroyed with only one blow. Plus all the beings Hulk killed was far beyond destroying a planet by accident.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's not that impressive because Thor used a plot device to achieve it vs. his fists and he used many blows to achieve it instead of one, and he only cracked a small portion of a planet and moon instead of completely destroying them. The shattering of world's term was describing him cracking the planet they were above and the moon not far off and nothing more. You can't prove it was other world's than those two since two worlds shown satisfy the plural.WBH used pure strength (no magical indestructible hammers), and in one blow (not many) he absolutely shattered the planet completely (not cracked) while disintegrating thousands of beings whose totality was beyond a skyfather.
Lawl, still clinging to the dumb notion that a magical indestructible hammer somehow amps Thor's swinging power. First you claimed that he punches using the hammer, now you purport that using the hammer somehow equates to him not using his strength. What crack are you on today?
Originally posted by h1a8
You saying it is just as impressive means that you are trolling or you are an idiot (no offense). Note: an idiot is far worst than a troll.