Originally posted by Stealth Moose
True. Don't think I don't realize that. But it's overwhelming the support Mace and Dooku are getting over Sion and Meetra. Let's not forget that Meetra is a ridiculously experienced combatant as is Sion, both having fought numerous Jedi/Sith.[list]Master Zez-Kai-Ell: You must have noticed as you've fought across all these planets, killing hundreds — only to become more and more powerful. Why do you think that was?[/list]
Unfortunately, the Revan novel made it pretty clear that Meetra can't hang with big boys.
Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Movie bias has become ridiculous. Sion soloes easily.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
True. Don't think I don't realize that. But it's overwhelming the support Mace and Dooku are getting over Sion and Meetra. Let's not forget that Meetra is a ridiculously experienced combatant as is Sion, both having fought numerous Jedi/Sith.[list]Master Zez-Kai-Ell: You must have noticed as you've fought across all these planets, killing hundreds — only to become more and more powerful. Why do you think that was?[/list]
They are not talentless feebs, and Sion has a unique ability to tank punishment, which means he can very easily step inside of the guard of Dooku or Mace and maim or kill, assuming they have no real understanding of his condition. Shatterpoint is never a guaranteed win, and Vaapad won't work against Meetra. Meetra meanwhile is a bonafide badass and master of all of the lightsaber forms.
I'm not claiming absolute victory here, but at least recognize it's not a stomp in favor of the PT.
1. So are Kenobi and Skywalker, both are hailed as being some of the greatest masters of Soresu and Djem So respectively in the Order's history. Mace even goes so far as calling Kenobi the Master of Soresu, and says Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive while both Yoda and he drew breath.
2. Talentless feebs? Please. I am not saying they are talentless I am just doubting they are a better team than Kenobi and Skywalker, who not only have intimate knowledge of each other's forms but also perform extraordinarily well together in duels. And yet that didn't stop Dooku from breaking Kenobi's ribs in their last Clone Wars duel and treating him like a talentless feeb on the Invisible Hand. You don't have to be a talentless feeb to be treated as one by Dooku.
3. It is. This is what gets me about the EU wank. They think their mid tiers can match PT high-top tiers. Mace and Dooku are both likely the greatest masters of their respective forms in galactic history, Sion will get the Jango Fett treatment from Mace, and Dooku will ragdoll Meetra.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I agree. Maybe not that easily, but Team K2 is outmatched here.
I don't see how not. Dooku is on the same level as Nyriss imo. And I really don't see Sion being above Scourge in anyway, nor will he be a better teammate. Dooku is an expert at dueling multiple people, I don't see why he alone wouldn't be enough to take down Sion and Meetra.
Lord Stark or even DP should make a respect thread for Dooku. He has tons of impressive feats. Lightning powerful enough to cause huge explosions, rip apart metal tanks which are connected to metal platforms (TCW video game), instantly kill a group of Kiffar warriors, over power Ventress and two other nightsisters at once, etc. His mastery and raw power in TK is such that he can dominate most of his era with it, effortlessly collapse cave ceilings, levitate several huge stone structures at once, collapse huge ship-sized cranes with a gesture. Plus he can outduel most force users of his era, even outdueling multiple opponents at once on more than one occasion, including a time when he was severely handicapped (drugged and blind during his fight with Ventress and two other nightsisters).
Originally posted by Lord Stark3. It is. This is what gets me about the EU wank. They think their mid tiers can match PT high-top tiers. Mace and Dooku are both likely the greatest masters of their respective forms in galactic history, Sion will get the Jango Fett treatment from Mace, and Dooku will ragdoll Meetra.