Dante and Vergil vs Sephiroth

Mundus is dead, and Vergil has made his intention to rule over thw humans known to his brother. Dante is not amused, as he wanta true freedom for humanity.

But before the battle between the brothers could begin, Kat narrowly avoids getting impaled from above by a long ass Masamune.

Sephiroth has arrived on Earth.

The two sons of Sparda decide to put their battle on hold to face this new threat.

Sephiroth can rapetrain the DMC-verse

He takes flight and nukes these two from high up while chillin' in his barrier

DmC? Die easily.

From DmC? They die. From the original story arc? Sephiroth gets murdered.

You need to lurk moar old timer

Final Fantasy has been way above DMC (even excluding universals for FF) for quite some time now

DmC? Completely.

What's making Sephiroth so much greater than the original Dante and Vergil?

Being awesome?

Really? The original Dante could take down Sephiroth alone. Adding in the original Vergil is just overkill.

Originally posted by DarkestSonata
What's making Sephiroth so much greater than the original Dante and Vergil?

Given all the recent boosts Final Fantasy has gained over the last year or 2?

Sephiroth has at least low end town level strength, country level durability and destructive capacity and barriers, is massively hypersonic (Mach 100+ or so), can fly and has massive telekinesis and various other haxes like time stops, petrification, dispelling status effects, instant death spells and such fun shit

Hell, as much as it feels awkward saying, I don't think Dante could really beat any FF character who can throw their weight with all the boosts and upgrades they've gotten over the recent years. At best you could argue he has multi-block strength, gigaton level energy projection with Mach 20 speed

Really? The original Dante could take down Sephiroth alone. Adding in the original Vergil is just overkill.

The **** you talkin' about dude? Sephiroth can and would lobotomise the entire DMC-verse

Where are all the updates to Sephiroth coming from? It seems I truly am out of the loop, because a few years ago I wouldn't have been wrong.

Of course dante and vergil would win. but Sephiroth will make a good fight.

Is there still no answer for where these power boosts came from? I've played ff7 and crisis core, and watched advent children. That Sephiroth would die. Where is the evidence of his great abilities coming from?

Does any of that negate the fact that a bullet can both tag and critically injure Cloud, who's not far from Seph's physical level?

Guns are generally overrated as shit in fiction, generally harming characters they shouldn't be able to

Stating that Cloud can tank a bullet?

Well given his durability feats (surviving attacks from Loz and Yazoo on the roofs, which were calced to be country busting I believe and is superior to Reno and Rude who tanked their own bomb which calced to be 100 KT or whatever it was), yeah

Guns are, indeed, overrated by fictional authors who tend to lack an understanding of how pressure and whatnot work (our best guns would be worthless against guys who can tank city block busting attacks)

Kind of the reason most of us tend to just ignore shit like Whitebeard being shot to death by muskets (18th century firearm with transonic velocities vs a small country buster ... )

So even if it's consistent, we ignore bullet damage in meta-humans above city-block?

How did you (well, they) get country busting from that small explosion that barely damaged the local area?

Welcome to fiction where battles between planet busters only creates city block sized craters (I was talking about DBZ, btw)

Ultima did this just by impacting the ground and again with it's death throes

Then Jenova (who Sephi-chan FF7 onwards at least should be scaleable to) who's at least this powerful

Weapon craters

Bahamut's Tera Flare

Energy of Huge Materias (which could be scaled to the shit the SHM were using)

Prolly more, but that should suffice

EDIT: As for bullet damage against characters with durability logically beyond it, well either their guns happen to be fire bullets with an extremely low surface area and/or extreme velocities, or you could just chalk it up to inconsistency (and given how pithy .22 caliber guns would be in the scheme of things, why wouldn't you)

So can any bullet wound feats be ignored if the verse has several city-block feats?