Dante and Vergil vs Sephiroth

Started by Jmanghan6 pages

Aren't we forgetting about Dante's Regeneration??? Dude took a freakin sword through his chest multiple times and survived, he was smashed by Nero's superhuman strength in the face multiple times and suffered almost no damage, in fact, he usually leaves these battles unscathed. (I won't ignore the fact that Vergil somehow pulled some bullshit and almost killed a near invulnerable being.) I honestly think this will be a stalemate.

Originally posted by BloodRain
So can any bullet wound feats be ignored if the verse has several city-block feats?

Well, given most vs sites in general tend to ignore low end showings, then why wouldn't we?

Unless guns in that verse happen to be that ****ing powerful

Otherwise, just say inconsistency and go about our day, frankly

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Aren't we forgetting about Dante's Regeneration??? Dude took a freakin sword through his chest multiple times and survived, he was smashed by Nero's superhuman strength in the face multiple times and suffered almost no damage, in fact, he usually leaves these battles unscathed. (I won't ignore the fact that Vergil somehow pulled some bullshit and almost killed a near invulnerable being.) I honestly think this will be a stalemate.

Regeneration won't help him against attacks far more energetic than anything shown in DMC to date

And no, Vergil's just physically powerful enough to harm him. Derp

Dante's as physically powerful prolly, though he's outclassed in energy projection and magic

Well we don't usually iirc ignore low ends unless they're kin to one-off outliers.

Like I wouldn't claim bullets would bounce off Dante's skin because he's tanked much higher damage.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Well we don't usually iirc ignore low ends unless they're kin to one-off outliers.

Like I wouldn't claim bullets would bounce off Dante's skin because he's tanked much higher damage.

Dante: -Gets shot in the head in DMC3- "What the hell was that for? I save you and you show me your thanks by shooting me??" I think thats what he said, anyway, Dante isn't just a bullet timer, he's also a bullet TANKER.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Well we don't usually iirc ignore low ends unless they're kin to one-off outliers.

Like I wouldn't claim bullets would bounce off Dante's skin because he's tanked much higher damage.

Kratos has been harmed by arrows, weapons from mooks and shrapnel from small explosions in the novelisations. We tend to ignore those as we all know Kratos' notable feats blow those out of the water

Primarchs have been harmed by bolters before. We ignore those because Primarchs have tanked far worse and even weaker beings have tanked boltguns

Goes on, guns are overrated in fiction

Or it's just how that fiction works?

When I brought this up a year ago, using Dante as the example, it was openly confirmed by all posting that while logically it shouldn't happen, if the fiction makes it a known fact and it's not some one off, then that fiction allows that to happen for whatever reason.

Sephiroth

I'm necro'ing a bunch of Dante vs Sephiroth threads just because.

Also, Stealth, you never did claim where you got all Seph's feats from. When has it even been stated that Seph was mach 100, and DON'T say "well, it's obvious from his movements that he's mach 100".

Vergil literally has shown speed similar to that of Sephiroth in Advent Children and Crisis Core/Last Order.

His blade moves so fast that I'd say it rivals Seph's sword slashes.

Originally posted by StealthRanger

Primarchs have been harmed by bolters before. We ignore those because Primarchs have tanked far worse and even weaker beings have tanked boltguns

the result of multiple writers on a single property, games rarely have this problem.

Dante is the better fighter and is fast enough to catch seph.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
[B]Also, Stealth, you never did claim where you got all Seph's feats from. When has it even been stated that Seph was mach 100, and DON'T say "well, it's obvious from his movements that he's mach 100".

Cloud was able to pass the Whirlwind Maze's whirlinds, which was calc'd at Mach 100 or so

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19207

Vergil literally has shown speed similar to that of Sephiroth in Advent Children and Crisis Core/Last Order.

Vergil has no quantifiable speed feats himself, only powerscaling off Dante who's best speed feat is Mach 15 ish

Dante is the better fighter and is fast enough to catch seph

You need to lurk more mate, Final Fantasy has been head over heels above DMC for quite some time now, even without their universals+

Speed relies on time and matter, Sephiroth can freeze time and teleport near effortlessly in mid-combat.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Cloud was able to pass the Whirlwind Maze's whirlinds, which was calc'd at Mach 100 or so

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19207

Vergil has no quantifiable speed feats himself, only powerscaling off Dante who's best speed feat is Mach 15 ish

You need to lurk more mate, Final Fantasy has been head over heels above DMC for quite some time now, even without their universals+

I'm talking about those barrage of blades that surround the vergil whenever takes a f*cking step.

He also has teleportation, but not on Seph's level.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Speed relies on time and matter, Sephiroth can freeze time and teleport near effortlessly in mid-combat.

coughQUICKSILVERcough

On a side note, Dante with all of his abilities put this on a spite level. You know he is still much faster considering he has abilities and a weapon that alone is stated to grant him lightning fast speed 😐

Hell, honestly, most mid tier FF characters can obliterate both Dante and Vergil, having the strength, speed, durability, DC and even hax to destroy them

Sephiroth is one of the most powerful non universals outside of Kefka, Kuja, Golbez, Cecil, The Emperor, etc

You don't put DMC characters against them, it's extreme overkill

I think someone just completely skipped over Dante having literal lightning speed from a hax weapon and hax ability... Or the fact they would have enough trouble actually hurting either of these two in the first place.

Right, because "lightning speed" doesn't sound like some kind of hyperbole commonly used throughout fiction or anything

And, Sephiroth's barrier tanking the Junon Cannon alone was calc'd in the triple digit gigatons or some shit, so, yeah

dante's lighting speed actually are massively hypersonic , and sub-relativistic with quicksilver.