Lol @ it entirely pertaining to Vergil entirely.
Well once again, demonic weapon with said powers, blah-blah same concept as most other game weapon descriptions. Also said distortions are described as cuts through dimensional barriers. Which would be why the "distortions" are there. Circular slashing "air distortions" all over the place while he stands in one spot actually makes less sense... Basically we're just downplaying everything that demonic energy is said to do in DMC at this point since you don't like it, regardless of how ridiculous it would sound. Which kinda defeats the whole point of any game versus. Not to mention the game has plenty of other space/time rendering elements anyway. ermm
No, they were never described as "cuts through dimensional barriers".
I have DMC 1,2,3,4, and DmC.
That has never once, EVER been stated.
You just lied, I give you a challenge. If you can find that exact quote, anywhere, I will concede and you will win the argument.
If Vergil can cut through Dimension Barriers, then he can definitely take Sephiroth.
A direct statement of the weapon's description? There is none except that it is key to separation of the human/demon dimension and said to "cut through anything." I kinda find it debatable on it slicing through anything like when it was put against the Rebellion or Nero arm, but could actually mean cut through anything, as in going through it.
A direct statement of the weapon's attacks causing slashes through dimensional barriers in a name & description? Yeah, that's kinda very directly stated in the description and shown in appearance of the attacks which would make sense for it to go through anything then just like the attacks actually do.
Also following Dante's cutting down the Hell Gate on 4, that angle of the cut doesn't exactly match what happens with the objects in the way of that slash for it to be an air attack. Part of a tree and some buildings should've been cut down as well if it was simply a slash through air. I wouldn't exactly use Nero's displays with the sword since he doesn't have the control over it like Dante and Vergil do, which I would assume it comes from them being direct sons of Sparda and the weapon being crafted and imbued with power from Sparda himself. If it was the case of air slashes or distortions, I would think that would also be stated or at least hinted instead as part of the weapon's powers otherwise Dante would be able to strike with enough force from his Rebellion to do that.
So can a Lightsaber, yet there are still metals and alloys that are very resistant, I don't think you understand how powerful casually cutting dimensions is.
Solaris from Sonic 06', actually ate Dimensions for nourishment, he is at least multi-verse level.
Dimension's are way bigger and different then just some random new universe.
Also, before Vergil could cut through any Dimension's, he'd half to cut through the molecule's in the air, which would create an atomic explosion on the spot.
And the other explanation for the attacks magically passing through objects to hit objects behind would be? Cause air manipulation makes less sense.
I don't think that's something that is necessary for dimensional travel in every universe... Actually I don't think I can think of a single fictional universe where slicing a dimension caused an atomic explosion so that sounds much less plausible.
Unless you just wanna call it spatial manipulation which would be the same concept except more impressive 😄
Originally posted by SpadeKing
Well if it's the new DmC Dante and Vergil, they lose. Otherwise, the originals stomp. I don't think lightning speed from a demonic weapon in an universe that has demon who moves through lightning is too far-fetched. Not to mention that the weapons in that universe does what they state usually, like Vergil's sword for example cutting through dimensions.
Doesn't some weapon in DMC2 or something state that it impacts with the force of a supernova or something?
And even then, lightning is only in the Mach triple digits or so, and Dante and Vergil are still outclassed in terms of DC, durability and hax really.
If Seph really felt threatened he could just raise his barrier while Dante and Vergil harmlessly chip away it it, and one shot them with a Shadow Flare.
Originally posted by StealthRangerThe force of a Supernova would easily destroy Sephiroth's world-destroying meteor, thanks for making a point against yourself.
Doesn't some weapon in DMC2 or something state that it impacts with the force of a supernova or something?And even then, lightning is only in the Mach triple digits or so, and Dante and Vergil are still outclassed in terms of DC, durability and hax really.
If Seph really felt threatened he could just raise his barrier while Dante and Vergil harmlessly chip away it it, and one shot them with a Shadow Flare.
Supernova's are pretty f*cking powerful.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
The force of a Supernova would easily destroy Sephiroth's world-destroying meteor, thanks for making a point against yourself.Supernova's are pretty f*cking powerful.
Point isn't there a weapon that states such a thing? It was in response to the whole "they're always right"
Unless there's feats for it, it's simply a hyperbole
Well if you want to play that game Sephiroth is lightspeed because Dissidia said he has lightspeed movement, same old with the Naruto Databooks and DBZ Daizenshuu's
No, there's simply the feats for it (Cloud being able to move through the Whirlind Maze, Sephiroth being much faster than him)
And what was the point of your picture
Originally posted by StealthRangerSo, an inaccurate calc made on narutoforums.
Well if you want to play that game Sephiroth is lightspeed because Dissidia said he has lightspeed movement, same old with the Naruto Databooks and DBZ Daizenshuu'sNo, there's simply the feats for it (Cloud being able to move through the Whirlind Maze, Sephiroth being much faster than him)
And what was the point of your picture
If we're going by Dissida logic, then no, you're still wrong, Sephiroth was never stated to be lightspeed.
I have way more hours put in Dissidia then you could ever dream of.
Oh, I thought you meant, actually stated in-game, like the WOL or Cloud was like "He's light-speed"
Dissidia is non-canon though.
It has nothing to do with me not liking it, it's a calc, and calc's are wrong all the time.
There's no guarantee it is, but most likely, yeah, it is.
Either way Lightning = Lightspeed.
Because it is, in fact, light.
Dante and Vergil have similar speed feats with Sephiroth, and some even surpassing them.
Dante being able to tank a small supernova, and being able to dish out a small supernova makes this an automatic win, though.
Oh, I thought you meant, actually stated in-game, like the WOL or Cloud was like "He's light-speed"Dissidia is non-canon though.
Point is, statement like that are meaningless without feats to back them
It has nothing to do with me not liking it, it's a calc, and calc's are wrong all the time.
Because you say so.... right
Either way Lightning = Lightspeed.
What? No it doesn't
Dante being able to tank a small supernova, and being able to dish out a small supernova makes this an automatic win, though.
Except that nothing in DMC is anywhere as powerful as a supernova, and the only statement around it has, no feats to back it, so no