Originally posted by zopzop
Asking his opinion is sucking d|ck?
Originally posted by zopzop
You failed at your pitiful attempts at trolling and yet you keep going. Get over it, you are supposedly an adult.
You're a funny cracker.
Originally posted by Epicurus
She only bested him in only one of those encounters, and it was a hungry Galactus. 😬Do you think that Thor could best Surtur under his own power in a similar thread like this as well?
You're taking AvX into account? In the same event where Phoenix avatars made a joke out of Thor? Thor never bested PF in combat anyway, he was about to get killed in every scenario.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Nope, but sucking his dick does count as sucking his dick. Which is what you were doing there, Zop Flop the flopth.😂
You're a funny cracker.
Wow. What an a hole.
Anyway, on topic....PF should logically be more powerful than Surtur but I'm having a hard trying to figure out HOW pf takes it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Then it would be nice to see a skyfather actually beating a hungry Galactus.
A hungry Galactus got straight up KOed by Strange and the Thing in FF #243.
Regarding Phoenix: I remember in that fight between Phoenix/Galactus where it's stated the Phoenix has "limitless power", when earlier in that same series (Excalibur), Phoenix "strained herself to the limit" while containing an explosion of a mini-nuke.....Yeah, Phoenix does have a lot of hyperbole going around, and that's just one of the countless examples out there.
Just like in Excalibur #34 letter's page, where the editor said that the Phoenix is the creation force behind not one, but all realities. Later in issue #51 of the same series, we see Phoenix being born from the big bang. Meaning the previous letter's page statement is a hyperbole. Just like FF #522, Reed equates the PF to the Big bang, yet 9 issues later in FF #531-532, we never see the PF being associated with the big bang in any way. Just like in an issue of Ultimate X-Men it's stated that the Phoenix Force is the force behind the creation of the universe, yet later it's dissociated from the "force that created the Earth" and gets imprisoned/contained inside of the Earth....something just doesn't add up in those.
Id have my doubts regarding whether Phoenix is a creator of the universe or not.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Then it would be nice to see a skyfather actually beating a hungry Galactus.You're taking AvX into account? In the same event where Phoenix avatars made a joke out of Thor? Thor never bested PF in combat anyway, he was about to get killed in every scenario.
I am talking about the time when Thor drove away Galactus using his Godblast. Emma was the only one who actually bested him in direct combat, and that too after he shattered her into a bazillion pieces. Her tp also failed against him.
Originally posted by operator616
A hungry Galactus got straight up KOed by Strange and the Thing in FF #243.Regarding Phoenix: I remember in that fight between Phoenix/Galactus where it's stated the Phoenix has "limitless power", when earlier in that same series (Excalibur), Phoenix "strained herself to the limit" while containing an explosion of a mini-nuke.....Yeah, Phoenix does have a lot of hyperbole going around, and that's just one of the countless examples out there.
Just like in Excalibur #34 letter's page, where the editor said that the Phoenix is the creation force behind not one, but all realities. Later in issue #51 of the same series, we see Phoenix being born from the big bang. Meaning the previous letter's page statement is a hyperbole. Just like FF #522, Reed equates the PF to the Big bang, yet 9 issues later in FF #531-532, we never see the PF being associated with the big bang in any way. Just like in an issue of Ultimate X-Men it's stated that the Phoenix Force is the force behind the creation of the universe, yet later it's dissociated from the "force that created the Earth" and gets imprisoned/contained inside of the Earth....something just doesn't add up in those.
Id have my doubts regarding whether Phoenix is a creator of the universe or not.
😬
Originally posted by Epicurus
Zeus.I am talking about the time when Thor drove away Galactus using his Godblast. Emma was the only one who actually bested him in direct combat, and that too after he shattered her into a bazillion pieces. Her tp also failed against him.
Haha, what? Mar-vell punked him, Namor punked him, Emma punked him, Scott utterly raped him, Magik and Colossus punked him. All of PF avatars took their times to assrape Thor.
Emma's TP was weaksauce in that series. Rulk no sold it.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Zeus.I am talking about the time when Thor drove away Galactus using his Godblast. Emma was the only one who actually bested him in direct combat, and that too after he shattered her into a bazillion pieces. Her tp also failed against him.
Zeus did it with an amp from chaos king who possessed him.
Originally posted by operator616
Regarding Phoenix: I remember in that fight between Phoenix/Galactus where it's stated the Phoenix has "limitless power", when earlier in that same series (Excalibur), Phoenix "strained herself to the limit" while containing an explosion of a mini-nuke.....Yeah, Phoenix does have a lot of hyperbole going around, and that's just one of the countless examples out there.
^Universal level force/pressure being applied right there. 😆
Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus was near death in that issue and was getting stalemated by Thor.😬
Amped by Chaos King. Not applicable.Haha, what? Mar-vell punked him, Namor punked him, Emma punked him, Scott utterly raped him, Magik and Colossus punked him. All of PF avatars took their times to assrape Thor.
Emma's TP was weaksauce in that series. Rulk no sold it.
So Mar-vell was a Phoenix avatar in that series? News to me. Namor beat him the span of a one-panel/one-page fight. I already told you the manner in which the Emma/Thor fight went, and had it not been for her regen she would have died. Magik and Colossus tagteamed him, not to mention that they were unable to kill Spider-Man as well in that series, so the low showing goes both ways.
The Rulk thing is yet another example of what an awful series that was, and you purposely confusing my Galactus/Godblast instance with that of the AvX goes to show hos disingenuous you can be to defend an agenda that you liberally mock in other threads.
Originally posted by operator616A hungry Galactus got straight up KOed by Strange and the Thing in FF #243.
Regarding Phoenix: I remember in that fight between Phoenix/Galactus where it's stated the Phoenix has "limitless power", when earlier in that same series (Excalibur), Phoenix "strained herself to the limit" while containing an explosion of a mini-nuke.....Yeah, Phoenix does have a lot of hyperbole going around, and that's just one of the countless examples out there.
Just like in Excalibur #34 letter's page, where the editor said that the Phoenix is the creation force behind not one, but all realities. Later in issue #51 of the same series, we see Phoenix being born from the big bang. Meaning the previous letter's page statement is a hyperbole. Just like FF #522, Reed equates the PF to the Big bang, yet 9 issues later in FF #531-532, we never see the PF being associated with the big bang in any way. Just like in an issue of Ultimate X-Men it's stated that the Phoenix Force is the force behind the creation of the universe, yet later it's dissociated from the "force that created the Earth" and gets imprisoned/contained inside of the Earth....something just doesn't add up in those.
Originally posted by operator616Id have my doubts regarding whether Phoenix is a creator of the universe.
While the Big Bang has been demonstrated/interpreted/illustrated 5 times On Panel,
and none of them had anything to do with the PF,
even indirectly, even by whispering its affiliation via an allusion.
But nah, nothing ... at ... all!
Also, aside from past cosmic significance (like all conceptual abstracts)
the Phoenix is a chump combatant and its durability is paltry to say the least.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus was near death in that issue and was getting stalemated by Thor.
So....how does that change that he was hungry? It was mentioned directly before he was KOed, that he was weak but holding his own...after which Strange in conjunction with The Thing KOed him.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Don't forget the Phoenix straining herself in order to overpower Attuma's sword.😂^Universal level force/pressure being applied right there. 😆
😂 👆
Originally posted by Epicurus
The feat was performed mostly under Zeus' own power, so it is applicable.So Mar-vell was a Phoenix avatar in that series? News to me. Namor beat him the span of a one-panel/one-page fight. I already told you the manner in which the Emma/Thor fight went, and had it not been for her regen she would have died. Magik and Colossus tagteamed him, not to mention that they were unable to kill Spider-Man as well in that series, so the low showing goes both ways.
The Rulk thing is yet another example of what an awful series that was, and you purposely confusing my Galactus/Godblast instance with that of the AvX goes to show hos disingenuous you can be to defend an agenda that you liberally mock in other threads.
So you have nothing as usual.
Surtur still loses.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Don't forget the Phoenix straining herself in order to overpower Attuma's sword.😂^Universal level force/pressure being applied right there. 😆
Originally posted by operator616
So....how does that change that he was hungry? It was mentioned directly before he was KOed, that he was weak but holding his own...after which Strange in conjunction with The Thing KOed him.
To be fair that was the Images of Ikon spell that Strange used. It made Galactus see images of all the people he had slain which would be in the trillions if not more. Special case in that instance.
Originally posted by operator616
So....how does that change that he was hungry? It was mentioned directly before he was KOed, that he was weak but holding his own...after which Strange in conjunction with The Thing KOed him.😂 👆
Or a few battle ships from BRB: Godhunter are as powerful as anybody in cosmos.
srsly
Originally posted by abhilegend
An amped Zeus did that. Galactus himself said that no skyfather could stand his eyebeams. So, no its not "mostly" under Zeus' power.So you have nothing as usual.
Surtur still loses.
That's non canon IIRC.
Except for actual on-panel evidence, as opposed to you sticking to hyperbole and a single fight which doesn't even prove anything worth anything.
Only in your wet dreams. In an actual forum fight, Surtur clearly wins.
Based on what? Your say-so? Forgive me if I ain't convinced. Anyways, that bizarre adventures storyline was mentioned in one of 616-Attuma's bios, so it is without a shadow of a doubt, canon.
Originally posted by Mr Master
👆Also, aside from past cosmic significance (like all conceptual abstracts)
the Phoenix is a chump combatant and its durability is paltry to say the least.
Perhaps but we still have the Force with an avatar able to completely no sell Galactus' attacks with ease and tank amped skyfather attacks (double the power in Doramammu) no prob.