Originally posted by DarkSaint85For some reason this reminded me of the "If Adamantium Colossus can pinch his own skin" argument.
I didn't say it. Charles himself admits that Emma is blocking him, and actually asks her to stop. Not trying to block him, or attempting to block him, but she's actually blocking him.Posted for the THIRD time:
Let me see if I undestand what is being implied in here with Carver.
He thinks prof X could have ended secret wars, therefore, professor x mind > Galactus and probably PR Beyonder.
Many years after secret wars and under a different writer, WWH resisted the mind of professor x and the white queen (wich is doubtful), but in anycase this means that Hulks capability of fight mind attacks is better than MMH and Aquaman put together???
If I didn't get your stance correctly, feel free to explain.
In this case Carvermatics DO make sense.
Despero wins and blows hulks head off.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElBasically Hulk mindrapes Despero, and then Galactus
Let me see if I undestand what is being implied in here with Carver.He thinks prof X could have ended secret wars, therefore, professor x mind > Galactus and probably PR Beyonder.
Many years after secret wars and under a different writer, WWH resisted the mind of professor x and the white queen (wich is doubtful), but in anycase this means that Hulks capability of fight mind attacks is better than MMH and Aquaman put together???
If I didn't get your stance correctly, feel free to explain.
In this case Carvermatics DO make sense.
Despero wins and blows hulks head off.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Let me see if I undestand what is being implied in here with Carver.He thinks prof X could have ended secret wars, therefore, professor x mind > Galactus and probably PR Beyonder.
Many years after secret wars and under a different writer, WWH resisted the mind of professor x and the white queen (wich is doubtful), but in anycase this means that Hulks capability of fight mind attacks is better than MMH and Aquaman put together???
If I didn't get your stance correctly, feel free to explain.
In this case Carvermatics DO make sense.
Despero wins and blows hulks head off.
When did I say any of this? I said show me a limit on which WWH metal capacity would break. This is a simple suggestion.
Anyway, Emma was only blocking Charlie from persuading the X-Men. There's no indication that she tried to stop him when he went into Hulk's face.
And Hulk did expel Strange from his mind, who despite my dislike for the character (or fans I guess) is a great telepath.
Now, does that mean he could stop someone who could mindrape MM and Aqualad? Probably not. But I don't think it's unreasonable to think he could fight it enough to cause some loss of focus in Despero to open up for an attack.
Not to mention that MM becomes a defense the moment it suits everyone's needs, yet he gets shit on the other 102 percent of the time on every facet of his powers... interesting to say the least.
Despero likely wins, and it is largely due to his telepathy, and by largely, I mean almost entirely. However, I don't think it's as simple as Despero just looking at him and Hulk dropping his pants and bending over.
Originally posted by carver9
When did I say any of this? I said show me a limit on which WWH metal capacity would break. This is a simple suggestion.
You are suggesting that a guy who can mindrape a couple of telephats somehow cannot mindrape hulk.
Most likely hulks mind will break at this power level.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You are suggesting that a guy who can mindrape a couple of telephats somehow cannot mindrape hulk.Most likely hulks mind will break at this power level.
WTF?
Rao, get your facts straight please.
Carver means that Xavier needs more of an effort to mindrape Galactus than he does with WWH.
Because WWH > Sentry who is = Galactus.
Originally posted by carver9
I asked you all a simple question...I guess no one has an answer. Oh well...it's not my fault telepaths finds Hulk mind too complexed to mess with.
But your question was asinine and using a no limit fallacy.
You said show you WWH's limit.
I say, Charles at full power, being serious, would do it.
Or Emma, being fully serious, could do it.
My proof?
WWH fought off Xavier's mental attack. But we know he has done better before. Conclusion: he wasn't at full seriousness with WWH. Unless WWH>Phoenix and Galactus.
Why do I say Emma? Because she was able to block Xavier from using his own powers. Conclusion: she was more powerful than Xavier (unless of course, you want to argue Xavier wasn't serious?).
Considering you used to argue that WWH's HF was so good he could regrow his arms and legs after Kitty attacked him, I take your 'proofs' with a massive ladle of salt.
Originally posted by carver9Dark, every time we debate, we go off what you THINK happened versus whats shown onpanel. I'm use to it though.
Like your assertion that Enchantress shot darts into Eiling with the rest of the Bat family, that blew chunks of his arm off? the changed your stance to Huntress, and was still wrong?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=586832&pagenumber=1
Or that WWH, when using his HF, can not only regrow limbs, but recreate his gladiator sandals (so on trend this season) and his gladiator armour?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=568466&pagenumber=10
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Carver is probably Hulk's worst enemy on these boards.
Like your assertion that Enchantress shot darts into Eiling with the rest of the Bat family, that blew chunks of his arm off? the changed your stance to Huntress, and was still wrong?http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=586832&pagenumber=1
Or that WWH, when using his HF, can not only regrow limbs, but recreate his gladiator sandals (so on trend this season) and his gladiator armour?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=568466&pagenumber=10
The ultimate Hulk hater is Hulk's biggest fan
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Anyway, Emma was only blocking Charlie from persuading the X-Men. There's no indication that she tried to stop him when he went into Hulk's face.And Hulk did expel Strange from his mind, who despite my dislike for the character (or fans I guess) is a great telepath.
Now, does that mean he could stop someone who could mindrape MM and Aqualad? Probably not. But I don't think it's unreasonable to think he could fight it enough to cause some loss of focus in Despero to open up for an attack.
Not to mention that MM becomes a defense the moment it suits everyone's needs, yet he gets shit on the other 102 percent of the time on every facet of his powers... interesting to say the least.Despero likely wins, and it is largely due to his telepathy, and by largely, I mean almost entirely. However, I don't think it's as simple as Despero just looking at him and Hulk dropping his pants and bending over.
J'onn's telepathy is usually fine. It's everything else that has him earning his title.
Though even that has its moments.
Originally posted by carver9
I asked you all a simple question...I guess no one has an answer. Oh well...it's not my fault telepaths finds Hulk mind too complexed to mess with.
if you'd asked a relevant question, it wouldn't have been an issue.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
how about stop posting in hulk threads?
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
"I can be banned if I want to, I can leave this place behind. Cause if I don't get banned or if I get banned well, it's no care of mine.'
Stfu pg just quit antagonizing the mods and stop being a hero.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But your question was asinine and using a no limit fallacy.You said show you WWH's limit.
I say, Charles at full power, being serious, would do it.
Or Emma, being fully serious, could do it.
My proof?
WWH fought off Xavier's mental attack. But we know he has done better before. Conclusion: he wasn't at full seriousness with WWH. Unless WWH>Phoenix and Galactus.
Why do I say Emma? Because she was able to block Xavier from using his own powers. Conclusion: she was more powerful than Xavier (unless of course, you want to argue Xavier wasn't serious?).
Considering you used to argue that WWH's HF was so good he could regrow his arms and legs after Kitty attacked him, I take your 'proofs' with a massive ladle of salt.
I actually loled. Carver is just being Carver. He serves his purpose. But u all are getting off track. DESPERO is no slouch physically and he's always been a paygrade above Clark ( if we are using certain versions im kinda unsure at this point which one we are using) he should honestly be able to beat him h2h before he could amp further. Since his cap is restrrestricted to the arc. What level is despero anyway trans?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Stfu pg just quit antagonizing the mods and stop being a hero.I actually loled. Carver is just being Carver. He serves his purpose. But u all are getting off track. DESPERO is no slouch physically and he's always been a paygrade above Clark ( if we are using certain versions im kinda unsure at this point which one we are using) he should honestly be able to beat him h2h before he could amp further. Since his cap is restrrestricted to the arc. What level is despero anyway trans?
He's a definite team-wrecker. I think JuggyMania's intention was to use V&V? Crisis of Conscience was still a beast, however.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Sure thing.
It means that even the worst, jobbiest character in DC >>>>Marvel.
Anyway, go to any normal DC vs DC thread with Manhunter if you want to see MM's low feats.
Go to an MM vs Marvel thread if you want to see his high feats/high talk.
Funny how that works out. People's love of a company trump their hate of a character if said character comes from said company. Hate should be applied across the board equally no matter who they're fighting IMO.