Q Continuum vs God

Originally posted by Epicurus
No I don't. Unless there was an actual indication that they were less in scope, we automatically assume by default that the scope remains the same. Pocket universes in ST like Crusher's don't consist of stars and galaxies as Amanda's did. Proof has now been provided, but I am curious to see how you try to twist around it. LOL at the quanlite calling me quan though. That shit's always funny. 😂

Lol, the same illusion crap which ddm pulled off, which robtard trollishly failed to emulate and which you're now ranting on about since you can't accept the scope of the Q's feats. How many times do I have to debunk this sh1t before you people cease with this horrid lowballing?

Who says it was easy-peasy? Especially considering the Q ultimately destroyed them. How the f*ck does it not bode well for them? Last I recalled God never had to hide from a race off beings that are his peers, so that's pretty bullsh1tty point to bring up here, in a thread which has already been polluted with enough biblical bullsh1t. Lol, what do Q's interactions with Piccard where he tries to get a rise out of him have to do with anything? I thought that anti-time episode made it clear that Q's actions were actually geared towards guiding humanity on its path of growth and all that jazz. Not to mention that Q humbled Pic when he flung them into the maw of the first Borg they had contact with.

I mean this is the mother of all lowballs here. Especially coming from the side which is supporting a guy who causes global floods for no damn good reason, and stupidly gives his powers to an immature, whiny little f*ck and then pretends as if the blame lies solely on that whiny little f*ck's shoulders for the chaos that follows.

Ummm you do actually.. YOU MADE THE CLAIMS... First though you avoided my initial post...

In Marvel alternate timelines means another universe.. We know this because it's stated numerous times. Now, what I want from you is proof that when Q sent Picard back in time it wasn't an illusion... Now if you can prove that.. you NEED to prove that in TNG... It works the same as in Marvel... Alternate timelines = alternate universe. I'm waiting for that proof still

Further, AND AGAIN, you made the claim that what Amanda created was the same scope and scale as what God created. We know roughly what our universe consists of... YOU stated that Amanda created an Earth like planet with some stars and threw in the word Galaxy... which again as ALL you mentioned. In the episode NOTHING was stated about this being a universe. Certainly nothing was said about it being the same scale and size of what we know as our universe. So you need to prove that it's is.. since ya know.. YOU made the claim.

Ummm yeah it doesn't look good.. when a supposed God can't beat a mere human and is tricked or duped each and every time he puts him to the test. YES THAT LOOKS BAD. The Q can even seem to read minds at all.. yet you wanna claim they are all powerful... Pffftttt... that in and of itself goes against being all powerful.

Please state where in the Bible God says he created the universe. He says he created the Earth and the stars. I don't recall the word universe. I'm sure you can provide the same evidence you are vehemently asking for.

Still waiting on your proof buddy... you made the claim way back on the initial pages.. I didn't even join the argument till well later.. I'll just go ahead and wait for yours.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Of course they will, since they
1)are selectively blind,
2)rely on the bible as proof,
3)rely on hyperbole(which itself there isn't much of) and ignore actual feats presented for the other side,
4)lie about and exaggerate the very same hyperbole mentioned above,
5)lowball like asscrazy,
6)think they actually have a point, when all they have is a wet God-boner.

I wonder who that reminds me of. mmm

1) Wrong
2) Wrong again
3) Nope
4) Not even close
5) Negative
6) Their points > your points

Don't be mad cos I sliced off your ass ninja-style, glazed it, grilled it and handed it back to you in a brown paper bag earlier in this thread.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Please state where in the Bible God says he created the universe. He says he created the Earth and the stars. I don't recall the word universe. I'm sure you can provide the same evidence you are vehemently asking for.

bermm

i guess you couldn't find those proofs concerning the Q creating a entire universe... so now, after fully agreeing that God created the universe, you're saying God did not create the universe?

haermm2

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummm you do actually.. YOU MADE THE CLAIMS... First though you avoided my initial post...

In Marvel alternate timelines means another universe.. We know this because it's stated numerous times. Now, what I want from you is proof that when Q sent Picard back in time it wasn't an illusion... Now if you can prove that.. you NEED to prove that in TNG... It works the same as in Marvel... Alternate timelines = alternate universe. I'm waiting for that proof still

Further, AND AGAIN, you made the claim that what Amanda created was the same scope and scale as what God created. We know roughly what our universe consists of... YOU stated that Amanda created an Earth like planet with some stars and threw in the word Galaxy... which again as ALL you mentioned. In the episode NOTHING was stated about this being a universe. Certainly nothing was said about it being the same scale and size of what we know as our universe. So you need to prove that it's is.. since ya know.. YOU made the claim.

Ummm yeah it doesn't look good.. when a supposed God can't beat a mere human and is tricked or duped each and every time he puts him to the test. YES THAT LOOKS BAD. The Q can even seem to read minds at all.. yet you wanna claim they are all powerful... Pffftttt... that in and of itself goes against being all powerful.

No we know this because it's obvious f*cking logic. Same reason we know Odin is a magical greybeard because it's too obvious to state. Lol, asking me to prove a negative again. Do you even know how to debate, bro?

Yes I did, because that is exactly what it was. Or does a real complete with stars, planets and galaxies not indicate a universal scope to you? In which case I'd suggest that you either visit an ophthalmologist or an audiologist. Or both.

When you boorishly claim that the sky is blue because someone painted it blue, and an educated somebody intricately explains to you that this is wrong and how exactly is it blue, then you don't reply by restating your original boorish statement that it was painted blue. Which is exactly what you did by restating that retarded "Q has been beaten by Piccard" strawman. And not sure why you refer to the Q's telepathic abilities as proof of their non-all-powerfulness. Pretty sure Anthony Fremont's telepathy doesn't make him any less all-powerful than the Genie from Aladdin.

Originally posted by Robtard
1) Wrong
2) Wrong again
3) Nope
4) Not even close
5) Negative
6) Their points > your points

Don't be mad cos I sliced off your ass ninja-style, glazed it, grilled it and handed it back to you in a brown paper bag earlier in this thread.

As it stands, you don't have a single point left to make. Besides prove what an obviously ugly and wet God-boner you have.

Originally posted by Epicurus
No I don't. There is absolutely no need for me to prove a negative. Every single claim of mine is supported by onscreen feats. Feats which you and the other biblethumpers on this thread dance around like bunch of circus clowns.

No we know this because it's obvious f*cking logic. Same reason we know Odin is a magical greybeard because it's too obvious to state. Lol, asking me to prove a negative again. Do you even know how to debate, bro?

Yes I did, because that is exactly what it was. Or does a real complete with stars, planets and galaxies not indicate a universal scope to you? In which case I'd suggest that you either visit an ophthalmologist or an audiologist. Or both.

When you boorishly claim that the sky is blue because someone painted it blue, and an educated somebody intricately explains to you that this is wrong and how exactly is it blue, then you don't reply by restating your original boorish statement that it was painted blue. Which is exactly what you did by restating that retarded "Q has been beaten by Piccard" strawman. And not sure why you refer to the Q's telepathic abilities as proof of their non-all-powerfulness. Pretty sure Anthony Fremont's telepathy doesn't make him any less all-powerful than the Genie from Aladdin.

The question is... are you sure YOU know how to debate. I'm kinda concerned since you used proving a negative as your reason not to answer two times, and neither time was that the case.

This isn't proving a negative.. You need to PROVE that is how it works in TNG... We have numerous comics and references that state changing things in the past is an alternate universe... You need the SAME thing in the TNG to prove that is how it works there. That has nothing to do with proving a negative, and everything to do with proving your case

You do know how big our universe is right? Now I'm starting to get really concerned... Know how many galaxies are in our universe? Now, you need to prove that Amanda didn't create an illusion but even if we say she didn't... YOU made the claim it was as big as our universe. Yet, we know our universe is made up of much more than a galaxy... So... back up your claim that she created something as big.

Ummm if you're all powerful how can you not read minds? You can create universes but you can't read minds? Odd isn't it. Actually it's not because not only can they not read minds... they get dooped by normal humans all the time. Literally tricked with ease by a mere human. Yet, you are claiming they are more powerful than God... What kinda drugs do you have and can I have some?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The question is... are you sure YOU know how to debate. I'm kinda concerned since you used proving a negative as your reason not to answer two times, and neither time was that the case.

This isn't proving a negative.. You need to PROVE that is how it works in TNG... We have numerous comics and references that state changing things in the past is an alternate universe... You need the SAME thing in the TNG to prove that is how it works there. That has nothing to do with proving a negative, and everything to do with proving your case

You do know how big our universe is right? Now I'm starting to get really concerned... Know how many galaxies are in our universe? Now, you need to prove that Amanda didn't create an illusion but even if we say she didn't... YOU made the claim it was as big as our universe. Yet, we know our universe is made up of much more than a galaxy... So... back up your claim that she created something as big.

Ummm if you're all powerful how can you not read minds? You can create universes but you can't read minds? Odd isn't it. Actually it's not because not only can they not read minds... they get dooped by normal humans all the time. Literally tricked with ease by a mere human. Yet, you are claiming they are more powerful than God... What kinda drugs do you have and can I have some?

Yes it is. Do you not understand the semantics of a statement like "Now, what I want from you is proof that when Q sent Picard back in time it wasn't an illusion" clearly indicate a demand for proving the negative?

Yes, I do. Tell me again how this is relevant to disproving the idea that the Q operate on a universal scale of power? A Douwd can casually down an interstellar civilization, easiest way to disprove it is by saying "But space is so goddamn big!!!11! There's no way he could have gun doned that!!111!!" What a stupid non-sequiter.

Except Q can read minds. Proof was already posted several pages ago. Try to keep up for your own sake. Q have never been duped by humans. Their shenanigans are almost always aimed at testing a human, whether said human is easily riled up or not. Sisko failed this test whereas people Like Piccard and Janeway consistently succeeded.

Originally posted by Epicurus
I know. Which is why I realize that you don't have a point left to argue about anymore.

Yes it is. Do you not understand the semantics of a statement like "Now, what I want from you is proof that when Q sent Picard back in time it wasn't an illusion" clearly indicate a demand for proving the negative?

Yes, I do. Tell me again how this is relevant to disproving the idea that the Q operate on a universal scale of power? A Douwd can casually down an interstellar civilization, easiest way to disprove it is by saying "But space is so goddamn big!!!11! There's no way he could have gun doned that!!111!!" What a stupid non-sequiter.

Except Q can read minds. Proof was already posted several pages ago. Try to keep up for your own sake. Q have never been duped by humans. Their shenanigans are almost always aimed at testing a human, whether said human is easily riled up or not. Sisko failed this test whereas people Like Piccard and Janeway consistently succeeded.

Actually it's not.. and you need to learn when and where to use that. I asked you to PROVE that in the TNG universe... going back in time and altering things... means you've created an alternate universe. THAT WAS YOUR CLAIM I'm asking you to prove with TNG sources. That is what you've failed to do. So either back up your claim with proof.. or concede you don't know if that is how it works in TNG universe.

Creating something that could very well be an illusion doesn't mean they are operating on that scale. You have YET to prove it wasn't an illusion. HOWEVER, I won't ask you to do so.. and just stick with this point... YOU MADE THE CLAIM THAT THE REALITY SHE CREATED WAS THE SAME SCALE as our universe. Yet you concede it was only a earth like planet.. stars.. and maybe the size of a Galaxy... OKAY... That ISN'T the size of our universe... that is microscopic compared to what we know as our universe... You claimed it was AS BIG.. Now back up your claim or concede you don't know that it was as big and most likely wasn't.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Creating something that could very well be an illusion doesn't mean they are operating on that scale. You have YET to prove it wasn't an illusion. HOWEVER, I won't ask you to do so.. and just stick with this point... YOU MADE THE CLAIM THAT THE REALITY SHE CREATED WAS THE SAME SCALE as our universe. Yet you concede it was only a earth like planet.. stars.. and maybe the size of a Galaxy... OKAY... That ISN'T the size of our universe... that is microscopic compared to what we know as our universe... You claimed it was AS BIG.. Now back up your claim or concede you don't know that it was as big and most likely wasn't.

Originally posted by Epicurus
The way I say it is.

Prove it was an illusion. I didn't concede, I pointed out that the planet they were standing on was Earth-like because they are both from Earth. It would stand to reason that she would create an Earth-like planet for her secret romantic escapades.

You made the claim the reality she created WAS THE SAME SIZE AS OUR UNIVERSE. Yet you then state that it looked like an earth like planet... stars and maybe the size of a galaxy... a maybe Galaxy ISN'T CLOSE TO THE SIZE OF OUR UNIVERSE. Now back up your claim that it was the same size and scope of our universe or concede that it wasn't as big.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You made the claim the reality she created WAS THE SAME SIZE AS OUR UNIVERSE. Yet you then state that it looked like an earth like planet... stars and maybe the size of a galaxy... a maybe Galaxy ISN'T CLOSE TO THE SIZE OF OUR UNIVERSE. Now back up your claim that it was the same size and scope of our universe or concede that it wasn't as big.

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You made the claim the reality she created WAS THE SAME SIZE AS OUR UNIVERSE. Yet you then state that it looked like an earth like planet... stars and maybe the size of a galaxy... a maybe Galaxy ISN'T CLOSE TO THE SIZE OF OUR UNIVERSE. Now back up your claim that it was the same size and scope of our universe or concede that it wasn't as big.

So you concede this Galaxy she created was much smaller than I universe then?

lol. this thread is hilarious. kinda embarrassing for Lestov tho.

it's been 2 years, and still no proofs.

my ghost bumped this thread, 'cause i died holding my breath.

Another thread KT got owned in.

Originally posted by marwash22
lol. this thread is hilarious. kinda embarrassing for Lestov tho.

it's been 2 years, and still no proofs.

my ghost bumped this thread, 'cause i died holding my breath.

This was when I was going through my atheist phase. I didn't know about the glory of Ahura Mazda then.