Q Continuum vs God

The Bruce Almighty universe != the Star Trek Universe.

The moment you realize this fundamental truth, you'll understand how thoroughly and utterly wrong your argument is. 👆

Star Trek and Bruce Almighty have nothing to do with each other.

^ now that we have established this:

Originally posted by marwash22
in the movie "bruce Almighty", God created the universe, agree or disagree?

Yes.

Edit: Since you concede that the STverse is nothing like the BAverse, let go of this pointless charade that God's universal scale feat somehow trumps the Q's collective multiversal scope of power.

cool.

In Star Trek, the Q did not create the universe, agree or disagree?

Unknown.

Based on the research i did, the Q evolved into their god-like state, they were born into their universe... it's only logical that they did not create it.

Anyhow, beyond that, it is not stated in any "Star Trek" episode that they did create the universe, so you cannot give them feats that are not canonical fact.

Considering that there is literally nothing known about the Q's origins canon-wise, I'd love to see some of this research of yours.

That is why I stated "unknown", mon ami. Not really relevant anyhow, since they can casually create and destroy separate timelines, and make exact replicas of the mainstream universe on a whim. Which is easily on the same scale as Morweh's creation feat.

so, no, they did not create the universe.

cool.

MorganGod created the universe.
The Q did not create the universe.

now that we have those two things established, all i need now is feat where Amanda Q (or any other Q) recreated an entire universe.

you seem to be under the impression that i have a bias toward MorganGod. I don't. Just show me evidence that The Q can create an entire universe and I'll happily call them MorganGod's equal, and this match a stalemate.

After all the progress we made, you're planning on going back to position zero of Star-Trek universe == Bruce-Almighty universe?

Awful.

Originally posted by Epicurus
After all the progress we made, you're planning on going back to position zero of Star-Trek universe == Bruce-Almighty universe?

how did you get that from what i just said?

Originally posted by marwash22
no.

how did you get that from what i just said?

Originally posted by Epicurus
Due to the fact that you think that the trek-multiverse is derived from MogGod's universe. 😂

I don't think that is what he meant.

I think he is debating wether or not the sub dimensions Q makes on a whim are entirely different in scale from a fully functional dimension, especially if they were designed just to screw around with Picard & co.

To be perfectly honest, who the hell knows? They could be all mental projections rather than actual physical realms of being.... Still that's an assumption, and not solid fact either. The truth is, nobody can say wether or not the alternate realities we saw on screen are real, limited in scale, or merely full sensory illusions. Either way, they worked for their intended purpose.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I don't think that is what he meant.

I think he is debating wether or not the sub dimensions Q makes on a whim are entirely different in scale from a fully functional dimension, especially if they were designed just to screw around with Picard & co.

To be perfectly honest, who the hell knows? They could be all mental projections rather than actual physical realms of being.... Still that's an assumption, and not solid fact either. The truth is, nobody can say wether or not the alternate realities we saw on screen are real, limited in scale, or merely full sensory illusions. Either way, they worked for their intended purpose.

His argument is basically this: Morweh is the Supreme Being of the Star Trek universe due to the bible. Morweh's universe is what the entirety of Star Trek verse is derived from.

Ridiculous.

Originally posted by marwash22
okay, good.

a multiverse is a collection of universes (alternate realities), that came into existence when significant events in time were changed... agree or disagree?

The biblical reality, which you referenced, is not the MWI multiverse you are imagining. Even if it were, the geocentric initial conditions of that world mean it is most definitely not the same as, nor in any way causally linked to, the Big-Bang-caused STverse.

Originally posted by Epicurus
He isn't saying anything like that.

His argument is basically this: Morweh is the Supreme Being of the Star Trek universe due to the bible. Morweh's universe is what the entirety of Star Trek verse is derived from.

Ridiculous.

i thought we cleared this up with this post:

Originally posted by marwash22
Star Trek and Bruce Almighty have nothing to do with each other.

Originally posted by Lestov16
The biblical reality, which you referenced, is not the MWI multiverse you are imagining. Even if it were, the geocentric initial conditions of that world mean it is most definitely not the same as, nor in any way causally linked to, the Big-Bang-caused STverse.

do you agree with the definition of a multiverse that posted, yes or no?

I can see the ridiculous argument you are trying to make, and it doesn't apply here.

which is what?

Basically from what I have gotten here is any thread that the word "God" is involved Lestrov has a problem with it. So its not that he doesn't think Q would lose to God, its that since he has a problem with any being called a God, or the word God being used. That side always loses.

Originally posted by marwash22
which is what?

It's either:
The biblicalverse is an MWI multiverse, which it's not, because to be so would defeat the purpose of heaven and hell, not to mention that an infinite multiverse was never mentioned. It would be like saying the LOTRverse is an infinite multiverse, when nothing has suggested it

OR

The ST verse branched off from the biblicalverse, which it didn't because they have completely different initial conditions

If that's not it, please indulge me in what it actually is