Originally posted by Patient_Leech
The world is different now. Less idealistic, more cynical. I think it demands a darker Superman. I'm not necessarily saying that's a good thing, it's just not surprising.
disagree the only people wanting a darker superman are the younger generations. My brother owns three movie theaters in the Washington state area. cannot tell you how much time and money we have put into research with the university of Washington about this particular subject. Something we have noticed was the D.C. movies are attracting a ton of the the 18-25 year olds. over 40 is almost no existint in theses movies. Yet the marvel movies especially captain America and avengers are bringing in all age groups, cap in general did extremely well with the older generation I noticed.
Perhaps its different in other states or locations but in the seattle Washington area this is what we found.
As far as MOS it was a pretty good movie, I Had to watch it 4 times till I started likeing it doh. What can I say im a Christopher reeves fan and always will be. As far as the next MOS movie goes, there is rumor his suit will be all black. If this is the case I aint watching the ****ing thing that's just to much for me . Change is ok in the movies. But completely remaking a movie geared for one class of people is stupid. Think D.C does this a lot, they have there reason though and I respect that. But if they want to catch marvel they need to appeal to all types and ages of people.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I don't see what the problem with the movie was. It had a good story, good action, a true beginning of krypton and ended with Superman holding his ground against being used by humanity or being spied on.
It was decent at worst and a pretty good story at best. Its weakness was getting boring and being too flat, at times.
How they could make a story about the archetypal Super Hero with absurd super powers come off as boring and flat, I'll never know.
You know, cheesy would have been a better choice than boring and flat. I think it would have been more enjoyable if they went for a cheesier portrayal than they did.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It was decent at worst and a pretty good story at best. Its weakness was getting boring and being too flat, at times.How they could make a story about the archetypal Super Hero with absurd super powers come off as boring and flat, I'll never know.
You know, cheesy would have been a better choice than boring and flat. I think it would have been more enjoyable if they went for a cheesier portrayal than they did.
The sad part is all Goyer had to do was copy and paste the plot of Superman Birthright while changing the villains to the Kryptonians and he would've had an amazing movie on his hands.
Instead we ended up with this of all things
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I don't see what the problem with the movie was. It had a good story, good action, a true beginning of krypton and ended with Superman holding his ground against being used by humanity or being spied on.
No problems with the movie it was just completely different from past movies, sometimes it takes time for people to accept change. Some things in the movie were better then past movies and some things were not.
Originally posted by zeel
No problems with the movie it was just completely different from past movies, sometimes it takes time for people to accept change. Some things in the movie were better then past movies and some things were not.
What did you like better about the past movies of Superman vs this one?
Originally posted by dadudemon
You know, cheesy would have been a better choice than boring and flat. I think it would have been more enjoyable if they went for a cheesier portrayal than they did.
I wasn't expecting too cheesey but I kinda miss the portrayal of Superman being the naive "Big Blue Boyscout."
His take on humanity being a simple approach good vs evil...
I mean dark & realistic works for Batman & Supes should always be the extreme opposite.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What did you like better about the past movies of Superman vs this one?
I guess for me personally I miss the boy scout a bit. I loved the character of clark played by Christopher reeve's. I miss the John L Williams theme to the original superman, that was a huge downer to me personally. The older superman movies had a sense of honor and patronage to me I think.
I think for me personally I like the more positive versions of superman, in a day and age where kids kill kids, crime and violence is everywhere, its nice to see a movie where there is a lot of action, and a brighter atmosphere. Its also nice to here a few jokes now and then in the movies. MOS was a good movie but I think I can do with out all the dark, gothic stuff.
Its just me though just saying.
I personally feel that that version of superman had 5 movies. Why not give a more human version of him a shot. A guy with real emotions in current world situations.
We had 5 movies of the goofy Clark Kent who rarley stands up for himself, why not give the new Clark 5 movies of him standing up for himself while not being a threat to humanity as he spoke of?
As for the gothic/dark part, I didn't see it. I thought the old Zod and company were way more gothic in black latex suits and weirdness.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I personally feel that that version of superman had 5 movies. Why not give a more human version of him a shot. A guy with real emotions in current world situations.We had 5 movies of the goofy Clark Kent who rarley stands up for himself, why not give the new Clark 5 movies of him standing up for himself while not being a threat to humanity as he spoke of?
As for the gothic/dark part, I didn't see it. I thought the old Zod and company were way more gothic in black latex suits and weirdness.
I see no reason that we cant have a more serious superman indeed. All Im saying is I miss the old clark. As far as superman 2 being gothic vs MOS...................................welp don't know what to say bout that causee that's the first I heard that. Superman 2 cheesy? sure but gothic nah I don't see it.
Originally posted by zeel
I see no reason that we cant have a more serious superman indeed. All Im saying is I miss the old clark. As far as superman 2 being gothic vs MOS...................................welp don't know what to say bout that causee that's the first I heard that. Superman 2 cheesy? sure but gothic nah I don't see it.
What was Gothic about MOS besides say Faora?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
The sad part is all Goyer had to do was copy and paste the plot of Superman Birthright while changing the villains to the Kryptonians and he would've had an amazing movie on his hands.Instead we ended up with this of all things
Touché
It is beyond me how people can ****-up such excellent source material.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I wasn't expecting too cheesey but I kinda miss the portrayal of Superman being the naive "Big Blue Boyscout."
His take on humanity being a simple approach good vs evil...I mean dark & realistic works for Batman & Supes should always be the extreme opposite.
Very well stated. I lacked the ability to put into words what you said, here.
I'll remember that when I'm trying to describe how things should work:
Batman, The Dark Knight.
Superman, the Big Blue Boyscout.
Originally posted by Firefly218
The tone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_fiction
I don't see it.
Gothic fiction would be Underworld.