Superman (Man of Steel) vs Godzilla (2014)

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Originally posted by Robtard
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Everyone understands the size/mass thing except Kurupt.

Yup, it's basic Newtonian Mechanics that kids learn in high school. Not sure why it is so hard to grasp for him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No it's not impressive at all and clearly comprehension is also not your friend. Point me to ANY place where I commented that the size of Godzilla wouldn't make it difficult for him to win. Stop being a clownshoes and actually try and read what is written in the thread. Actually that isn't the least bit impressive, in fact, it's lols worthy to even insinuate it was impressive. He didn't need to travel very fast at all to break through kryptonian metal. In fact, a mere casual not even trying backhand did the job quite easily. Yet I'm suppose to be impressed because he tried even harder to break though the same metal? LOL . Much like Robbie I see you like to crush your own arguments with your lack of logic and comprehension. Another example of this is saying it makes no difference it something is living... actively trying to survive... and able to move and think is the same as a non thinking or actively trying to live or fight back object. A eight year old would know what is more relevant and impressive. Let's see if you're as smart as a 8 year old.

Which is more relevant to a vs. match...

1. Doing a feat against a non living, non fighting back who doesn't care if it lives or dies or

2. Doing a feat against a living, fighting back wanting to live foe

Which is more relevant to a vs. matchups in general?

So once again you show a complete and utter lack in understanding of basic science. If you took a living person and basically froze them in place, it would make no difference whatsoever how much they wanted to live or fight, I could still casually wail on them with impunity.

Will to fight does not counter a being who is several orders of magnitude faster than you are.

Edit: Also ironic how you question my comprehension skills, asking me to point out where you made certain statements, yet I never made a single comment about any specific statement you made.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why do you keep quoting where I'm pointing out that he didn't PUSH THROUGH ANYBODY in the movie that even had close of the makeup of Godzilla. What is so hard to understand about that. You said that was his strat... I pointed out that he either did that to non living things not fighting back OR the things he tried that with weren't even close to the same makeup as Godzilla yet he still wasn't able to ram through them or KO them. Why does me pointing out that you have no basis for your strategy mean anything but me calling you a clownshoes?

Why do you keep avoiding the question. I'll just keep quoting you video post until you answer. How does it feel posting a video where you owned yourself?

YOU made the claim that it's easier to ram through objects with more eight and mass and immovable. So... It's easier to ram through a skyscraper than a house according to your theory right?

See, you still don't get it 😂

You and your fantasies

You really are dense. Let me try again though. When Superman rams into Godzilla at incredible speeds, Godzilla's 100K+ ton mass would act to resist Godzilla being pushed. Factor in Superman's small (by comparison) surface area + invulnerability and there you go. But you won't understand that, cos you are really dense it seems and will continue with your "He pushed Zod when flying into him!" rants

Originally posted by Robtard
See, you still don't get it 😂

You and your fantasies

You really are dense. Let me try again though. When Superman rams into Godzilla at incredible speeds, Godzilla's 100K+ ton mass would act to resist Godzilla being pushed. Factor in Superman's small (by comparison) surface area and there you go. But you won't understand that, cos you are really dense it seems and will continue with your "He pushed Zod when hitting him!" rants

Its like shooting a large animal with a small bullet. 😄

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its like shooting a large animal with a small bullet. 😄
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Everyone but him understands the physics behind it.

Originally posted by juggerman
I've been in plety of fights. I've also seen plenty of fights firsthand. Some people do things I wouldn't and vice verse. What you would do or think you would do isn't the question here. YOU claimed his eyes were closed. You made that claim. Not me. You. And when simply asked to prove it you go on this tangent that is in no way related to the subject at hand. "Oh well other people have been KO'd and face down so he must have been too cuz.... um...... do u even fite bro?????" It's nonsense. Either back your claim with video evidence of his eyes actually being closed or admit you can't. It's not hard

Again, we see him for less than a second. He could have been mid blink for all you know. You are making an assumption and a poor one at that. You have a much better stance with the double team knock down than you do with the IHOP scuffle. But I guess in your opinion, a KO'd person is revived by more of a beating. Makes sense 🙄

I thought his eyes were closed I re-watched the scene and clarified it. Again, it doesn't matter because we see his eyes closed on other separate occasions, which to you means he's relaxing LOL. If you've been in fights and seen fights.. ANSWER THE QUESTION... How many times have you been hit and knocked down or seen someone hit and knocked down and they were FINE but just decided to lay there and relax? This question is exactly relevant.

How many times have you seen someone slammed to the ground (mind you she talks for a few second THEN picks him up) and the guy is laying there with his eyes closed face down and could actually get up and fight but decides nah I'll just relax here with my eyes closed.

Would you see somebody hit by a boat.. go up to them spread eagle eyes closed and sinking and go.. nah they're just relaxing and drive off. Would you drove off or would the first assumption be they're knocked out?

These are tough questions.. a junior high kid could figure these scenes out. I'm serious they are that easy to figure out. Your theory is plain stupid and borders on ridiculous. Ohhh he was actually fine and couldn't gotten up and continued fighting.. Instead he decided it was a nice day to relax with his eyes closed mid fight. I mean do you see how stupid that sounds LOL

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
So once again you show a complete and utter lack in understanding of basic science. If you took a living person and basically froze them in place, it would make no difference whatsoever how much they wanted to live or fight, I could still casually wail on them with impunity.

Will to fight does not counter a being who is several orders of magnitude faster than you are.

Edit: Also ironic how you question my comprehension skills, asking me to point out where you made certain statements, yet I never made a single comment about any specific statement you made.

So you think it's just as easy to hit a wall as it is to hit something who is actively fighting back.. thinking and wants to win and live. You think those two are the same things? It doesn't matter if Godzilla is slow... he's still living.. he's still able to fight back... he's still trying and wants to live.. he's still able to think and counter. These UNQUESTIONABLY and INDISPUTABLY make it vastly different than hitting a wall or a plane. I never claimed Godzilla could or would hit superman with Atomic breathe. never said so. I've only stated that if he did superman would be crushed and put down considering he was put down by much much less. That is all I've claimed in that regard. Me making the point that hiting a ship or a non living object isn't the same as doing so to something living and thinking and fighting back. It doesn't matter if Godzilla is slow or wouldn't hit Kal.. all that does matter is my statement is 100% factual. it's harder to do so. Period. Do you disagree?

Kurupt's reasoning: It's harder to hit/fly into a very slow and immensely massive being (Godzilla) than it is to hit/fly into a much faster and smaller one (Zod)

*crowd laughs*

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you think it's just as easy to hit a wall as it is to hit something who is actively fighting back.. thinking and wants to win and live. You think those two are the same things? It doesn't matter if Godzilla is slow... he's still living.. he's still able to fight back... he's still trying and wants to live.. he's still able to think and counter. These UNQUESTIONABLY and INDISPUTABLY make it vastly different than hitting a wall or a plane. I never claimed Godzilla could or would hit superman with Atomic breathe. never said so. I've only stated that if he did superman would be crushed and put down considering he was put down by much much less. That is all I've claimed in that regard. Me making the point that hiting a ship or a non living object isn't the same as doing so to something living and thinking and fighting back. It doesn't matter if Godzilla is slow or wouldn't hit Kal.. all that does matter is my statement is 100% factual. it's harder to do so. Period. Do you disagree?

Godzilla cant dodge bullets bud. When Kal is at ramming speed he is at a bullet and it will penetrate him. His antigravity force is strong enough to go through anything.

Look at Returns, when he hit the planet's crust, it didn't push the planet, he buried into it. When he wanted to lift something slowly he pushed the island up. Its the same exact thing.

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Kal's forward Speed with force and density will make a hole at whatever he is aimed at. Its just like a bullet designed to take down a large animal which is what zilla is.

Originally posted by Robtard
See, you still don't get it 😂

You and your fantasies

You really are dense. Let me try again though. When Superman rams into Godzilla at incredible speeds, Godzilla's 100K+ ton mass would act to resist Godzilla being pushed. Factor in Superman's small (by comparison) surface area + invulnerability and there you go. But you won't understand that, cos you are really dense it seems and will continue with your "He pushed Zod when flying into him!" rants

The problem with you theory is that he's no invulnerable at all. We've seen him KO'd no less than 2 times in the movie but less. So why would I assume he'd bust right through him with his invulnerability when I've seen him KO'd like a feeb numerous times? Only a clownshoes like you would take that as a given. I understand the point your are making but it's a faulty one because it depends on these factors not in evidence

1. Superman ACTUALLY using that strat (when he was known for piss poor strategy

2. Him actually being able to make it through something that clearly is very dense and very durable with no evidence to back up he could

3. We're also having to rely on superman invulnerability kicking in, but we've seen him KO'd numerous times, so to assume he would and not just bounce of him or KO himself is tenuous at best

4. Your tried to make the claim that if something is more immovable with more mass and size it's easier to punch through it than something smaller with less mass and moveable. I illustrated the fault of the logic. DON'T THINK I HAVEN'T NOTICED YOU AVOIDING THE ANALOGY of the plane. That isn't true and I could list 1000 examples of bigger things being harder to bust through than smaller objects. right? You know it's true, so I list more?

Originally posted by Robtard
How many times are you going to try this dishonesty? It failed you before and it fails you now. There's no real proof Kal was KO'd in that scene. He was floating (not sinking) in the water and relaxing by all looks of it, cos he was likely hot and tired from exerting himself.

We even see him open his eyes after a few moments (about 11 seconds).

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Stop being a lying downplaying loser, will ya. My fist is getting nasty from plunging in and out of your anus all day.

THIS STILL MAKES ME LAUGH. Nobody can own himself better than Robbie. Still not able to admit when he's wrong. So did he sink at all for the 5th time LMAO. Damn Robbie it must suck to get owned over and over again like this.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The problem with you theory is that he's no invulnerable at all.

Going by this then comics are wrong as well because one of his powers is invulnerability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_Superman#Invulnerability

Same with Thanos, but even he gets hurt.

http://marvel.com/universe/Thanos

Citing invulnerability as well, but we seen him get hurt.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The problem with you theory is that he's no invulnerable at all. We've seen him KO'd no less than 2 times in the movie but less. So why would I assume he'd bust right through him with his invulnerability when I've seen him KO'd like a feeb numerous times? Only a clownshoes like you would take that as a given. I understand the point your are making but it's a faulty one because it depends on these factors not in evidence

1. Superman ACTUALLY using that strat (when he was known for piss poor strategy

2. Him actually being able to make it through something that clearly is very dense and very durable with no evidence to back up he could

3. We're also having to rely on superman invulnerability kicking in, but we've seen him KO'd numerous times, so to assume he would and not just bounce of him or KO himself is tenuous at best

4. Your tried to make the claim that if something is more immovable with more mass and size it's easier to punch through it than something smaller with less mass and moveable. I illustrated the fault of the logic. DON'T THINK I HAVEN'T NOTICED YOU AVOIDING THE ANALOGY of the plane. That isn't true and I could list 1000 examples of bigger things being harder to bust through than smaller objects. right? You know it's true, so I list more?

Except of course Superman is invulnerable(so far). We never saw him bleed, bruise, cut etc. Bullets, flying trains, crashes into mountains, energy weapons, super-powered punches, world engine beam, black hole all caused no visible damage to his body. Did you not pay attention?

-Covered, Superman did the body-missile twice

-You've yet to prove Godzilla could resist, when we've seen Godzilla get damaged and to the point he passed out for a long time and needed to recoup

-Covered above

-You still don't get it and it's basic science, why everyone is laughing at you 😂

Originally posted by NemeBro
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Everyone but him understands the physics behind it.

You don't say... Is it easier for a plane to bust through a skyscraper or a 3 story mansion? having more mass and more size doesn't mean it's easier for a small object to pass through. It can mean that but I could list example after example where it's the complete opposite. There is no lack of understanding of physics, it's a lack of basic common sense on your parts. Superman has never ever tried such a strat before ever. We have NO idea if he could even break through Godzilla's hide in the first place without KOing himself. Yet, this is the strat you guys are claiming will work. When we've seen it flat out NOT work when he's tried it. Your guys reason it will work.. well duh.. he's bigger and has more mass thus he'll just go right through him like a knife through butter. That isn't proof as their are countless examples of smaller objects having a harder time going through. Think about it... Does a bullet travel through a dog easier or a bear? That is essentially what you're saying. The bear has a thicker hide.. more fat more bones to travel through and get in the way of. Same thing here.. You're forgetting that Godzilla's hit has taken HIGH caliber bullets to no effect.. missiles and they did nothing to him... That's the issue here..

Originally posted by Robtard
Except of course Superman is invulnerable(so far). We never saw him bleed, bruise, cut etc. Bullets, flying trains, energy weapons, super-powered punches, world engine beam, black hole caused no visible damage to his body. Did you not pay attention?

-Covered, Superman did the body-missile twice

-You've yet to prove Godzilla could resist, when we've seen Godzilla get damaged

-Covered above

-You still don't get it and it's basic science, why everyone is laughing at you 😂

So you don't know what invulnerable means then... We've seen him KO'd numerous times in the movies. Clearly he wasn't totally invulnerable or he wouldn't have been KO'd like a feeb numerous times. So, that is a leap on your part.

It wasn't covered as I could list 100's of example of bigger things being more durable than smaller things. I mean literally 1000's. IMO superman Is just as likely to be KO'd by ramming into Godzilla than to bust through him considering what has KO'd him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't say... Is it easier for a plane to bust through a skyscraper or a 3 story mansion? having more mass and more size doesn't mean it's easier for a small object to pass through. It can mean that but I could list example after example where it's the complete opposite. There is no lack of understanding of physics, it's a lack of basic common sense on your parts. Superman has never ever tried such a strat before ever. We have NO idea if he could even break through Godzilla's hide in the first place without KOing himself. Yet, this is the strat you guys are claiming will work. When we've seen it flat out NOT work when he's tried it. Your guys reason it will work.. well duh.. he's bigger and has more mass thus he'll just go right through him like a knife through butter. That isn't proof as their are countless examples of smaller objects having a harder time going through. Think about it... Does a bullet travel through a dog easier or a bear? That is essentially what you're saying. The bear has a thicker hide.. more fat more bones to travel through and get in the way of. Same thing here.. You're forgetting that Godzilla's hit has taken HIGH caliber bullets to no effect.. missiles and they did nothing to him... That's the issue here..

A plane is the worst example, because planes are really great at flying but fall apart at an extremely rapid rate, literally they disintegrate when they crash like in the twin towers, or like the recent plane crash in France. Kal is made out of dense DNA super powered by the sun.

You cannot compare a plane to Superman.

As show, plane, vs Superman. This plane starts to literally fall apart, and it didn't even hit anything. He had to save the plane by slow applied force to keep it from falling apart.

Cmon man..

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Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Going by this then comics are wrong as well because one of his powers is invulnerability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_Superman#Invulnerability

Same with Thanos, but even he gets hurt.

http://marvel.com/universe/Thanos

Citing invulnerability as well, but we seen him get hurt.

He's not invulnerable. If he wasn't he wouldn't have been KO'd. Comics don't apply here (though I disagree) but he's not invulnerable in them either. Neither is Thanos. Not sure why you think that. We've seen superman bleed.. bruise and KO'd more times than I can count in comics. he's not invulnerable.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I thought his eyes were closed I re-watched the scene and clarified it. Again, it doesn't matter because we see his eyes closed on other separate occasions, which to you means he's relaxing LOL. If you've been in fights and seen fights.. ANSWER THE QUESTION... How many times have you been hit and knocked down or seen someone hit and knocked down and they were FINE but just decided to lay there and relax? This question is exactly relevant.

How many times have you seen someone slammed to the ground (mind you she talks for a few second THEN picks him up) and the guy is laying there with his eyes closed face down and could actually get up and fight but decides nah I'll just relax here with my eyes closed.

Would you see somebody hit by a boat.. go up to them spread eagle eyes closed and sinking and go.. nah they're just relaxing and drive off. Would you drove off or would the first assumption be they're knocked out?

These are tough questions.. a junior high kid could figure these scenes out. I'm serious they are that easy to figure out. Your theory is plain stupid and borders on ridiculous. Ohhh he was actually fine and couldn't gotten up and continued fighting.. Instead he decided it was a nice day to relax with his eyes closed mid fight. I mean do you see how stupid that sounds LOL

So you admit you were wrong? Good glad we can move past it.

Split second close of eyes means "KO"? Got thanks fr the help 😂

Who the hell was hit by a boat? Stay on topic please. This is about Supeman, not some random dude that got boat hit for some reason

First is was an 8 years old, now a teen? Guess you realize your sillyness is getting harder to follow

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Godzilla cant dodge bullets bud. When Kal is at ramming speed he is at a bullet and it will penetrate him. His antigravity force is strong enough to go through anything.

Look at Returns, when he hit the planet's crust, it didn't push the planet, he buried into it. When he wanted to lift something slowly he pushed the island up. Its the same exact thing.

YouTube video

Kal's forward Speed with force and density will make a hole at whatever he is aimed at. Its just like a bullet designed to take down a large animal which is what zilla is.

Well KT?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He's not invulnerable. If he wasn't he wouldn't have been KO'd. Comics don't apply here (though I disagree) but he's not invulnerable in them either. Neither is Thanos. Not sure why you think that. We've seen superman bleed.. bruise and KO'd more times than I can count in comics. he's not invulnerable.

The point of Synders rendition was to show some realism like comics. Did you want a Superman to stand there and have anyone who punched him have their punched reflected back into their face and he just stands there? Who would watch that movie?