Superman (Man of Steel) vs Godzilla (2014)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The world engine.. all examples of Kryptonian metal not being durable or needing much to break.

IOW, Weak

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
kryptonian metal also failed miserably and from weak strikes. LOL> Damn this is too easy Robbie.

Many examples of movie where a material is made to withstand Super Strong beings.

Avengers..Fifth Element.Hell Even fcking King Kong.

Hulks cage was supposed to hold him and Thor broke out with ease.

Fifth Element was supposed to be unbreakable, she broke out.

Fcking King Kong even broke out of that metal on stage and made everyone look silly.

Saying that because a kryptonian who is vastly stronger then all those power breaks through a ships hull is ignoring the strength in which they possessed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You would agree that Godzilla did catch most of the energy from the blast, or at the very least, more than if he was further away right?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No it doesn't... Clark BARELY tried and did a backhanded strike and it shattered with ease. Yet, he unleashed full powered normal punches on the Kryptonians and their suits and it did nothing to them. Didn't even dent them.. nothing. You're preaching to the choir bud, I know all the things a ship has to endure in space, which is my point. They wouldn't make it weak.. they would make it very durable. Yet it was EASILY destroyed with a half ass trying backhand strike. Thus, it wasn't that strong. We see clark trying his hardest and punching the suits and nothing happens. Which of course is a common thing in movies and the clothing of people. Nothing happens to them. It's a common thing. I believe the same thing happened here. Kryptonian metal isn't weak i'm sure, but the point is, it's not as strong as some are claiming.

Its obvious that those suits were amped durability wise by their physical powers and they were tied into their personal aura that kryptonians long have possessed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
God you're bad at this. Him flying though a object NOT fighting back or moving is the same as doing so to something living and actively fighting back? How stupid are you Rob? I'm generally curious. Those aren't close to the same thing and are far far from proof. I asked for proof of him doing to someone he was fighting. You come back with him flying through a ship.. and flying at the world engine.. All non living... not fighting back objects and you think you proved something? BRAVO.. only Robtard would call that proof. Now please provide the proof I'm asking for or concede supes never did so on screen.

Never said it was weak... but what I am doing is illustrating WITH PROOF that Kryptonian metal isn't all that you are claiming. He certainly has it shares of low showings. However, being that you're a piss poor debater you only chose to look at the highs or a directorial error (take your pick) about the suits. When we see other showings for Kryptonian metal which are.. very lackluster. So what's superman's suit made out of... It also took shot after shot and through buildings.. heat.. blasts by gun ship.. nothing. Do tell what it was made out of and why nothing ever happened to it? Could it be the common theme of fights happen and clothing remains in tact. Do you know how many movies are made showing.. fights.. explosions.. and yet clothes still remain in tact. This is almost a regular thing in movies. Clothes that should be destroyed or tattered appear like brand new... yet here... omg those suits must be made of adamantium and hard the hardest material EVERZORZ!!!! ohhh wait... kryptonian metal also failed miserably and from weak strikes. LOL> Damn this is too easy Robbie.

So your argument now is that Superman won't be able to fly into Godzilla because Godzilla will be 'moving and fighting back'? LoL! See what I mean on how you lack critical thinking.

Its "low showings" are being broken by super-powered beings. Yeah, "low" indeed. LoL!

You have no valid arguments in how Godzilla could stop Superman from turning 'her' brain into soup, but not having an argument has never stopped you from ranting. Now prove me correct again.

Godzilla moving and fighting back doesn't mean much when he's doing it at a glacial pace.

Superman goes into his skull and punches his brain.

Originally posted by Robtard
So your argument now is that Superman won't be able to fly into Godzilla because Godzilla will be 'moving and fighting back'? LoL!

The World Engine was "fighting back" 🙄

Originally posted by juggerman
1. 1st of all your own video shows it wasn't just Nam but both of them beating on him. Nam threw him and Faora punched him. Him being dazed after that does not mean he was KO'd. Shaken up? Sure. Hurt? Possibly. KO'd? Not a chance. He fighting back seconds later. Hardly a KO.

2. Moved=/=affected. At least not in the way you are making out to be

3. Actually he did use strategy against the World Engine. HE didn't just rush it head on. It was trying to grab him and he was dipping and dodging it. Not just meeting the tenticles head on and fighting them. And, as Rob said, he used his body as a missle and destroyed it. No reason to think he wouldn't think of it for Zilla

Huh? Did you watch the video? Nam doesn't throw him he kicks him. I don't see Faora strike him at all.. more like she moves out of the way. Point is, he was KO'd. If I punch somebody...and they fall to the ground.. face force.. eye closed and not moving... What do you say... he's dazed? No... he's KO'd. To even say he wasn't is flat out lying. That is the definition of a KO. Eye closed and out. Dazed is being hit.. but still conscious... stumbling... trying to gain your balance and composure but still very much awake. That is far from what we see here. We see Clack face first.. not moving... they walk up to him.. he's still not moving and his eyes were CLOSED. He was KO'd. We could even argue that he was KO'd by Faora before that. He was slammed to the ground.. didn't move.. eyes closed as she picks his lifeless body off the ground. This isn't good for you Juggs.

I'm glad to see you avoided the oil rig scene and your theory as that would make his durability worse not better lol.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its obvious that those suits were amped durability wise by their physical powers and they were tied into their personal aura that kryptonians long have possessed.

WUT??? Please provide proof of this please or concede it's your speculation

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
WUT??? Please provide proof of this please or concede it's your speculation

Was his suit damaged from any bullets, fighting with world engine, world engine beam, all the fighting through building and debris, exit and re entry of earths atmosphere or all the other crap he endured?

Originally posted by Robtard
So your argument now is that Superman won't be able to fly into Godzilla because Godzilla will be 'moving and fighting back'? LoL! See what I mean on how you lack critical thinking.

Its "low showings" are being broken by super-powered beings. Yeah, "low" indeed. LoL!

You have no valid arguments in how Godzilla could stop Superman from turning 'her' brain into soup, but not having an argument has never stopped you from ranting. Now prove me correct again.

So no proof then.. Good that's the Rob I know. Of course being living and actively fighting back matters. Unless of course you think it's just as easy to hit a dead person and living one. Knowing you Robbie, you probably do.

Notice how you stayed completely away from movies and the general theme of clothing not being destroyed. Do you know how many movies I could name where clothes would be destroyed and yet they weren't. Even use your hero McClaine. That is a regular occurrence in his movies.. yet you don't see me claiming his clothes were made out of super material do you? That is exactly what you're tying to do here. We see supes barely try and backhand part of a ship and it breaks. That isn't strong in the least Far from it actually. Yet, their suits endured much much worse without a scratch... Odd eh? or maybe it was the usual clothing isn't destroyed in fights thing.. ya know.. that common almost regular theme in action movies.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Godzilla moving and fighting back doesn't mean much when he's doing it at a glacial pace.

Superman goes into his skull and punches his brain.

That was funny Neme... a Glacial pace LOL

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Was his suit damaged from any bullets, fighting with world engine, world engine beam, all the fighting through building and debris, exit and re entry of earths atmosphere or all the other crap he endured?

What's superman's clothing made out of.. Why wasn't there so much as a scratch on it? Do you understand that this is a common theme in movies. Beyond common, more like regular. Do you understand that virtually all action movies has the clothes of people looking far far better than they really would had they gone through what they did. Do you get that?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Huh? Did you watch the video? Nam doesn't throw him he kicks him. I don't see Faora strike him at all.. more like she moves out of the way. Point is, he was KO'd. If I punch somebody...and they fall to the ground.. face force.. eye closed and not moving... What do you say... he's dazed? No... he's KO'd. To even say he wasn't is flat out lying. That is the definition of a KO. Eye closed and out. Dazed is being hit.. but still conscious... stumbling... trying to gain your balance and composure but still very much awake. That is far from what we see here. We see Clack face first.. not moving... they walk up to him.. he's still not moving and his eyes were CLOSED. He was KO'd. We could even argue that he was KO'd by Faora before that. He was slammed to the ground.. didn't move.. eyes closed as she picks his lifeless body off the ground. This isn't good for you Juggs.

I'm glad to see you avoided the oil rig scene and your theory as that would make his durability worse not better lol.

Nam's kick threw Kal to Faora. That's what I meant. Sorry if it was confusing. And Faora does punch him. Just watch the video again. Nam kicks, Kal is launched, then when Kal reaches Faora he slams into the ground. Hard. If it was just the kick he wouldn't have stopped so suddenly.

Anyway that's besides the point. He was face down but where did you see his eyes closed? Do you have a different version than everyone else or are you making baseless claims again?

I thought I addressed the oil rig already. Guess not. Again he wasn't KO'd. You don't reminisce carelessly about your youth when you are KO'd. He fell into the water. No KO

I'm glad you've given up on the silly arguements you had about Kal not being able to act differently against different opponents and being moved by bullets equaling being hurt. You're finally coming around. 👆

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So no proof then.. Good that's the Rob I know. Of course being living and actively fighting back matters. Unless of course you think it's just as easy to hit a dead person and living one. Knowing you Robbie, you probably do.

Notice how you stayed completely away from movies and the general theme of clothing not being destroyed. Do you know how many movies I could name where clothes would be destroyed and yet they weren't. Even use your hero McClaine. That is a regular occurrence in his movies.. yet you don't see me claiming his clothes were made out of super material do you? That is exactly what you're tying to do here. We see supes barely try and backhand part of a ship and it breaks. That isn't strong in the least Far from it actually. Yet, their suits endured much much worse without a scratch... Odd eh? or maybe it was the usual clothing isn't destroyed in fights thing.. ya know.. that common almost regular theme in action movies.

The proof is the film "Godzilla 2014". Godzilla's speed is irrelevant to a guy who can fly many, many, many times faster (like ridiculously faster)and come from the rear or the top. Start thinking, will ya. It's embarrassing.

So now you're going with the Kryptonian suits being PIS. I laugh that my eFist going unrelentingly and repeatedly into your eAss has you scrapping like this. It's so sad but funny.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What's superman's clothing made out of.. Why wasn't there so much as a scratch on it? Do you understand that this is a common theme in movies. Beyond common, more like regular. Do you understand that virtually all action movies has the clothes of people looking far far better than they really would had they gone through what they did. Do you get that?

The avengers movies their clothes get torn up..it's DC canon fact that this aura exists. Even the aura is shown when activating his flight powers. Something surrounds him.

Originally posted by juggerman
Nam's kick threw Kal to Faora. That's what I meant. Sorry if it was confusing. And Faora does punch him. Just watch the video again. Nam kicks, Kal is launched, then when Kal reaches Faora he slams into the ground. Hard. If it was just the kick he wouldn't have stopped so suddenly.

Anyway that's besides the point. He was face down but where did you see his eyes closed? Do you have a different version than everyone else or are you making baseless claims again?

I thought I addressed the oil rig already. Guess not. Again he wasn't KO'd. You don't reminisce carelessly about your youth when you are KO'd. He fell into the water. No KO

I'm glad you've given up on the silly arguements you had about Kal not being able to act differently against different opponents and being moved by bullets equaling being hurt. You're finally coming around. 👆

Huh? I see no punch from her at all after the kick.. I see her moving out of the way. However, it doesn't matter and is besides the point. The point is, you hit somebody and let fall face first and don't move at all as you slowly walk up to him.. he's out. It's that simple. That goes well beyond dazed.

Again, we see Faora KO him before that.. In that instance we can clearly see his eyes are closed and he's again not moving. That's another KO

You should watch the oil rig scene again.. he was clearly KOed and again lifeless sinking in the water. We even see his eyes go from CLOSED to open. He was KO'd by a fall according to you, which again is even worse.

My argument has always been the same bud, clark is horrible at strategy and just meets everything head on. That's IS my point and exactly what we see Kal do each and every time. Its never about whether a normal sized kryptonian would be the same as punching a giant lizard. Nobody claimed such a thing. What I did claim is that Kal will meet him head on.. not try and strategy.. and will just try physical force or hv... To me those are bad ideas with Godzilla.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
The avengers movies their clothes get torn up..it's DC canon fact that this aura exists. Even the aura is shown when activating his flight powers. Something surrounds him.

huh? that something that surrounds him is him manipulating gravity around him in order to defy it. That is why we see the pebbles swirling around him. It had nothing to do with his aura.

In DC Comics? In DC comics they aren't even shown in these battle suits like it's their regular gear. That isn't the case at all. Nor is it the case that these suits are manipulated by their aura. Not sure where you got this from mayn.

Originally posted by Robtard
The proof is the film "Godzilla 2014". Godzilla's speed is irrelevant to a guy who can fly many, many, many times faster (like ridiculously faster)and come from the rear or the top. Start thinking, will ya. It's embarrassing.

So now you're going with the Kryptonian suits being PIS. I laugh that my eFist going unrelentingly and repeatedly into your eAss has you scrapping like this. It's so sad but funny.

Again you avoid the question like the plague. Is it not a regular occurrence for movie clothes to be less damage than they would be in real life if involved in the same action sequence? Is this not the case? So why is it different here when that's norm.. it not being damage is the rarity here when it comes to movies. Has nothing to do with PIS and everything to do with directorial choice to keep their actors clothed for audiences. Didn't think that was rocket science but don't worry Robbie I'm always here for you.

So still no scene where superman impales somebody with his flight blitz eh? Good, I thought so. He's flew at people at didn't KO them or impale them. Concession accepted.

It doesn't matter if Godzilla is sloth like slow or the slowest thing ever. I never said he was fast or agile or could keep up with Kal. what I did claim and destroy your analogy yet again for the 100th time... that doing something to a NON MOVING.. Not thinking.. not fighting back object is VASTLY different than doing it to the opposite of those. That is 100% indisputable and all I claimed and why your analogy was piss poor, again, like usual.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again you avoid the question like the plague. Is it not a regular occurrence for movie clothes to be less damage than they would be in real life if involved in the same action sequence? Is this not the case? So why is it different here when that's norm.. it not being damage is the rarity here when it comes to movies. Has nothing to do with PIS and everything to do with directorial choice to keep their actors clothed for audiences. Didn't think that was rocket science but don't worry Robbie I'm always here for you.

So still no scene where superman impales somebody with his flight blitz eh? Good, I thought so. He's flew at people at didn't KO them or impale them. Concession accepted.

It doesn't matter if Godzilla is sloth like slow or the slowest thing ever. I never said he was fast or agile or could keep up with Kal. what I did claim and destroy your analogy yet again for the 100th time... that doing something to a NON MOVING.. Not thinking.. not fighting back object is VASTLY different than doing it to the opposite of those. That is 100% indisputable and all I claimed and why your analogy was piss poor, again, like usual.

Two scenes were named where Superman uses himself like a missile. Keep dancing.

Yes, it does matter since Godzilla won't be able to stop of counter Superman ramming into 'her' head like a missile, despite being sentient. See above on you lacking reasoning skills.

Originally posted by Robtard
Those suits were battle-armor(say that back to yourself a few times). It stands to reason they stood up to the abuse because they're durable and not PIS. It's like you have zero ability to reason things out for yourself. Zero. Zip. Zilch.

Two scenes were named where Superman uses himself like a missile. Keep dancing.

Yes, it does matter since Godzilla won't be able to stop of counter Superman ramming into 'her' head like a missile, despite being sentient. See above on you lacking reasoning skills.

So, ships were designed to travel through space and endure all the hardships of that and battle. Yet, they were EASILY broken by a casual.. not trying... backhanded strike. Hardly the pillar of durability for Kryptonian metal eh?

Two scenes were named that showed superman flying though non moving not living things. That isn't what I asked for. That's you suing your shit analogies and logic. What I did ask for you have yet to provide because you can't. We see superman fly at people using the technique you're claiming and literally NOTHING happens. Zod isn't KO'd.. Nam isn't KO'd.. Faora isn't KO'd.. None of them are KO'd let alone killed like you're claiming a ram would do. Damn you make it too easy to crush your piss poor arguments.

That tells me all I need to know about Rob and his logic. Ramming into something not moving or living or fighting back.. with a desire to live is the same as fighting a wall. LOL Do people make fun of you in real life for being such a moron?