I don't recall seeing Godzilla's eyes after the blast, as I said, I've seen the film once. So post the vid and we shall see if you're correct.
Godzilla was being hurt by those attacks. Why he crashed and needed to recoup after the fight. There's also that thing about an object with a small surface area moving at incredibly high speeds.
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't recall seeing Godzilla's eyes after the blast, as I said, I've seen the film once. So post the vid and we shall see if you're correct.Godzilla was being hurt by those attacks. Why he crashed and needed to recoup after the fight. There's also that thing about an object with a small surface area moving at incredibly high speeds.
They don't show his eyes afterwards... Which is the point. There's NOTHING to suggest they were damage at all by the blast. You can't claim something we have no evidence of. On the contrary I can claim his eyes were just fine, because they are normally fine unless shown otherwise. We see nothing otherwise and we see nothing later on when we can see his eyes and nothing was reported via dialogue about his eyes being damaged. Thus, we have to assume they were just fine.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
They don't show his eyes afterwards... Which is the point. There's NOTHING to suggest they were damage at all by the blast. You can't claim something we have no evidence of. On the contrary I can claim his eyes were just fine, because they are normally fine unless shown otherwise. We see nothing otherwise and we see nothing later on when we can see his eyes and nothing was reported via dialogue about his eyes being damaged. Thus, we have to assume they were just fine.
So your theory is that Superman's HV wouldn't harm Godzilla's eyes because we didn't specifically see a nuke not harm them? 😂 That's an odd way of approaching things
BTW, the time we see Godzilla being mostly underwater and surviving an atom bomb is what, 60ish years from the first time we see Godzilla in full? Think about that.
Anyhow, keep your silly HV immunity theory, doesn't really matter. Godzilla can't hit Superman and Superman need only dome 'her' with his body.
Originally posted by Robtard
So your theory is that Superman's HV wouldn't harm Godzilla's eyes because we didn't specifically see a nuke not harm them? 😂 That's an odd way of approaching thingsBTW, the time we see Godzilla being mostly underwater and surviving an atom bomb is what, 60ish years from the first time we see Godzilla in full? Think about that.
Anyhow, keep your silly HV immunity theory, doesn't really matter. Godzilla can't hit Superman and Superman need only dome 'her' with his body.
It's not odd, it's the only logical way to approach that scene in relation to this discussion. We can't assume it harmed him, that is unsound logic. We have to assume it didn't harm him as there was nothing ever stated or shown that it harmed him. It's really that simple. Thus, since we had no choice but to come to that logical conclusion about his eyes and the nuke... That means Superman HV will do nothing. Again, if it's comic book hv... than that is different. It's not, so it won't harm him.
Can I see superman DOMING anybody like what you're claiming he's do... he flew right at somebody on two separate occasions and didn't fly right through them or impale them at all. So please provide proof of this theory and approach of yours and it seems to have no foundation from the movies
Originally posted by juggerman
Since Godzilla wasn't shown after the bomb went off, we cannot assume it was harm or unharmed. Either assumption is faulty and is just that, an assumption.So we should look at it like this: The bomb went off and it is unknown if Godzilla was injured in any way.
Actually we very well know it didn't.. The scientist of two separate occasions I believe said it did nothing. First, when he was talking to the son about what they knew about the creature known as Godzilla and the bomb. He later states when talking to the military guy that the bomb did nothing last time around.. and the General says today's bombs are more powerful. Point is, we do know he was unharmed.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThe only thing I remember is when a soldier called the 1950s nuke a "firecracker" compared to the current, thermonuclear warhead they were maneuvering. But what you're saying is still possible. Fission devices in the 1950s could be >10x as powerful as the Little Boy atomic bomb.
Actually the bomb in Godzilla I believe was stated to be more powerful than the Hiroshima blast.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIt does; the blast radiates spherically from the onset. It's just a matter of scale. No matter how far, or close, you are, wrapping yourself around a bomb is the only way to intercept all its energy. What Godzilla did "avoid," by being close, was the inverse-square-law effect greatly diminishing the blast with distance.
Second, Godzilla was at ground zero of attack. What you are saying would apply to things not at ground zero and on the outskirts of the initial blast center. This doesn't apply when Godzilla LITERALLY has the bomb go off right next to him.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI understand your point. I would say this was to create tension and excitement.
Superman and the Kryptonians were knocked back by conventional plane fire from a high caliber gun.
Originally posted by Mindship
The only thing I remember is when a soldier called the 1950s nuke a "firecracker" compared to the current, thermonuclear warhead they were maneuvering. But what you're saying is still possible. Fission devices in the 1950s could be >10x as powerful as the Little Boy atomic bomb.
It does; the blast radiates spherically from the onset. It's just a matter of scale. No matter how far, or close, you are, wrapping yourself around a bomb is the only way to intercept all its energy.
I understand your point. I would say this was to create tension and excitement.
yeah, I'm not sure either exactly how much more powerful it was.
This can't be true buddy. Logically if you're at ground zero you're at the start of the spherical blast radius it's all extending outward exactly where you're at. Thus all of the expanding blast first initial hit you. Even initial expansion is still hitting you. That is the polar opposite as being on one side of the spherical blast and not at ground zero. Are you saying that something on the outskirts of the blast radius getting the same energy as something at ground zero?
We can say that, and it's possible, yet we can only go by what we are shown. We are shown it sending them backwards and even dazing them. That tells me Godzilla's atomic breathe would be devastating if it hit.
There's nothing from the films that suggests
That superman isn't fast or agile enough
To escape Godzillas atomic breath. Even if Godzilla
We're able to catch superman with a direct hit from
His atomic breath it's questionable that it would have
Much of an affect on him.
Godzilla is all but defenseless against superman.
Superman can simply fly around in circles and blast Godzilla
In the face heat vision until the big lizard falls. Godzillas range of motion
Or lack there of and his Lumbering movements would never
Be able to defend against or harm superman. Godzillas
Only hope is his atomic breath.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiGiven the choice between standing next to a grenade, or turning my back to one, I'd choose the former cuz I'd be presenting less surface area. I certainly wouldn't wrap myself around it.
This can't be true buddy.
Though Godzilla was at ground zero, he was not literally on top of the bomb. It was on land; he was still in the water.
Originally posted by MindshipHe did what by normal standards is tanking a nuke. I don't think many characters in fiction have 'wrapped themselves' around one, going by that logic no character ever has tanked a nuke.
Given the choice between standing next to a grenade, or turning my back to one, I'd choose the former cuz I'd be presenting less surface area. I certainly wouldn't wrap myself around it.Though Godzilla was at ground zero, he was not literally on top of the bomb. It was on land; he was still in the water.
Originally posted by Reflassshh
He did what by normal standards is tanking a nuke. I don't think many characters in fiction have 'wrapped themselves' around one, going by that logic no character ever has tanked a nuke.
I don't think many characters have endured the full gravitational flux of a world engine either ;-)
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiSorry. This just registered.
Are you saying that something on the outskirts of the blast radius getting the same energy as something at ground zero?
To answer you: no. That's the inverse-square-law effect (ISLE). Say Godzilla gets zapped with 100 terawatts of energy at 100 feet from the bomb. If he was 1000 feet away (10x the distance), he'd get only 1 terawatt (1/100) hitting him. This is because 10 squared is 100, or 100/1. Inverted is 1/100. Thus, at 10x the distance, Godzilla would feel, not 1/10, but 1/100 the blast power. This is what Godzilla "avoided" by being at ground zero.
Essentially, while Godzilla didn't catch the total energy of the blast, what he did catch was fresh and hot (probably several 100,000s of degrees by the time the blast bubble reached him), before further dispersing with increasing distance.