Why Man of Steel Superman Does not Top Reeve’s version

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Donner spend an hour of screen time with superman getting trolled by the football team, running around Smallville and building the fortress of solitude.

Now you are just making up stuff to support your argument.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Synder had some sick backstory on how he found his way, interaction with his father in a way we never seen and his death. And entire production of Krypton and its technology. How and why Krypton blew up, how Jor El died, he was a total bad ass by the way. How much his parents loved him. Knowing he would die anywhere else but found the one spot he could survive and flourish. I'll take the Synder story and rendition any day over the past one with all its gaps in Krypton past and what it was like.

Good for you.

Originally posted by Kotor3
This definitely explains a lot. It is clear why you always talk of Reeve’s superman being cheesy.

Dude at that age I thought Superman IV was a great movie due to the action. I would think the same of Superman II and MOS. It wasn’t until I got older that my appreciation for the first two superman movies grew and I could tell how horrible of a movie Superman IV was.

You though IV was bad, try watching 3 without turning it off within 10 minutes. The superman movies were turned into a laugh riot and he lost all respect on screen till Returns, even that was a hodge podge but at least it wasn't a joke of a movie. I liked seeing MOS kicking ass and telling the military whats up.

If any of us was superman we wouldn't take crap from anyone. That's how it should be. The respect comes from him being able to conquer humanity as a ruler but not willing too because of his good nature, but that doesn't mean he has to be weak. He has to be his own man at the end of they day, not what people tell him to be. No one likes being told to do, why would Superman.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I liked seeing MOS kicking ass and telling the military whats up.
If any of us was superman we wouldn't take crap from anyone. That's how it should be. The respect comes from him being able to conquer humanity as a ruler but not willing too because of his good nature, but that doesn't mean he has to be weak. He has to be his own man at the end of they day, not what people tell him to be. No one likes being told to do, why would Superman.

I get it. I understand why you like the MOS version of superman. However there was nothing weak about Reeve’s version.

There is a reason why the majority of people did not take to MOS movie and I believe it is because of how Superman was displayed. That is why I made this thread to get opinions and thoughts on this.

I do not believe Cavill version of Superman has top Reeve’s version. Reasons are describe in my original post. But I got it you prefer Cavill version of Superman.

Originally posted by Kotor3
This definitely explains a lot. It is clear why you always talk of Reeve’s superman being cheesy.

Dude at that age I thought Superman IV was a great movie due to the action. I would think the same of Superman II and MOS. It wasn’t until I got older that my appreciation for the first two superman movies grew and I could tell how horrible of a movie Superman IV was.

Hehe by the time they made superman 4 reeves basically said, Hell they are just throwing money at me so ill make it. God superman 4 was horrible. In my book the best of the superman movies were in this order, this is just a opinion

Superman 2
Mos/superman the movie
superman returns (good movie just out of its time)

The rest sucked.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No you don't. You're not interested in considering another viewpoint. And you're certainly not interested in re-examining your own. You have a distinct Quanchi-vibe in this thread.

Lestov, I've already posted on why MOS is something of a shitty movie at length. Dissect this dick.

Originally posted by zeel
Hehe by the time they made superman 4 reeves basically said, Hell they are just throwing money at me so ill make it. God superman 4 was horrible. In my book the best of the superman movies were in this order, this is just a opinion

Superman 2
Mos/superman the movie
superman returns (good movie just out of its time)

The rest sucked.

The only change I would make to your list is that MOS would be below Superman the movie.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Actually, this is my re-examined opinion. Did you not see my original review of MOS? And odd how you singled me out when every person in this thread clearly has their own staunch opinion on the film. Also, whereas I went point by point debunking some flawed perceptions of the film, you just put down a simplistic "NO U RONG". You are the epitome of objective criticism. Those bee stings are starting to affect your brain.

Saying "You're wrong" when it comes to movie tastes, is asinine and childish. Equally so is responding in such a manner as to sound like you're right, as you did. Neme can't possibly prove you wrong and you know it. And you can't prove yourself right. But by offering your stance up to be "dissected", you'll vicariously re-enforce it when he fails to do what can't be done. Hence: you're not open to changing your mind or opinion, only reenforcing by having someone erroneously "attack" it and calling them "wrong" afterward. Essentially, doing what everybody hates Quanchi for doing.

That's narrow-minded at best, ethically disingenuous at worst.

Calm yourself, bee boy

Odd you are singling me out for claiming my opinion is objective when the entire thread is based on Kotor trying to claim his opinion is objective. Only one cause for such bias: you hate negroes

Originally posted by Kotor3
I get it. I understand why you like the MOS version of superman. However there was nothing weak about Reeve’s version.

There is a reason why the majority of people did not take to MOS movie and I believe it is because of how Superman was displayed. That is why I made this thread to get opinions and thoughts on this.

I do not believe Cavill version of Superman has top Reeve’s version. Reasons are describe in my original post. But I got it you prefer Cavill version of Superman.

Reeves is a legend, no one can replace him. I been through 100 times why they didn't use Tom Welling to be the new Superman. Kinda sad to be honest as they both shared the screen together in Smallville for a season or two. One of the most successful super hero shows of all time and Tom got too be around the legend. What a perfect way to lead into a movie for him and the franshise.

The directors have different view points. One had to start the whole thing from scratch the other has had huge block busters under his belt and 5 superman movies and 10 years of shows to learn from before casting and producing

On the story side of it one father wanted him to hide who he was because he was convinced the world would reject him. The other one encouraged him to push himself.

From Jonathan's stand point I get it, he wanted to protect his son even if that meant sacrificing himself or others to keep that secret. Wrong approach but he was doing the best he could with a super powered son and a alien ship in his barn.

We see Clark getting kicked around his whole life by kids at school, people at bars, and the places he worked. But he knew when to act. Oil rig was the first time it seems since the bus he had to man up and reveal himself.

His attitude was best wrapped up into "You won't control me, you never will but that doesn't mean we have to be enemies; it has to be on my terms." The general gets dicy with him. And he says he grew up in Smallville he's about American as it gets. Then blasts off, I felt that was a good way to end it.

The less Smallville faggotry in my silver screen Superman the better. uhuh

Originally posted by Zack Fair
The less Smallville faggotry in my silver screen Superman the better. uhuh

Tim still did a good job and had Chris as a mentor. Heck he had the whole Original cast as a mentor at one time.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Calm yourself, bee boy

Odd you are singling me out for claiming my opinion is objective when the entire thread is based on Kotor trying to claim his opinion is objective. Only one cause for such bias: you hate negroes

I think we are all just surprised that Lestov is trying to enforce his ideals on us. You are usually a bro the anti-quan. I feel like I don't know you anymore, you're breaking my heart. *dies from pregnancy/choking me the **** to death!*

You got Mola Ram-ed, bytch!

But seriously, how am I trying to force my ideals when the title of thread is an opinion trying to be asserted as fact?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Calm yourself, bee boy

Odd you are singling me out for claiming my opinion is objective when the entire thread is based on Kotor trying to claim his opinion is objective. Only one cause for such bias: you hate negroes

Whatevs

Originally posted by Lestov16
You got Mola Ram-ed, bytch!

But seriously, how am I trying to force my ideals when the title of thread is an opinion trying to be asserted as fact?

Really the title is an opinion not an fact? Okay. I didn't know the debate had not been settled as to who was the best version of superman.

I thought it was from all the threads and polls I've seen.

Yeah, bee boy. I'm the only one trying to assert my opinion as fact.
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You come at the king, Lucien, you best not miss, lest you get stung 😉

And yeah Kotor, considering there are clearly people who think different, your analysis is not unanimous and thus not objective fact. Just because you prefer Reeve Superman doesn't mean everyone does or should.

Originally posted by Kotor3
I get it. I understand why you like the MOS version of superman. However there was nothing weak about Reeve’s version.

There is a reason why the majority of people did not take to MOS movie and I believe it is because of how Superman was displayed. That is why I made this thread to get opinions and thoughts on this.

I do not believe Cavill version of Superman has top Reeve’s version. Reasons are describe in my original post. But I got it you prefer Cavill version of Superman.

Given how well it did, I don't think it's fair to say that the majority didn't take to it.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Calm yourself, bee boy

Odd you are singling me out for claiming my opinion is objective when the entire thread is based on Kotor trying to claim his opinion is objective. Only one cause for such bias: you hate negroes

Actually I'm just really in favour of KotOR 3. The one that got away.

Hey, you can't do that gay shit here. I saw him first!