Agen Kolar vs Kao Cen Darach

Started by ILS5 pages

I can't believe this much text is required to prove that Agen Kolar/Vos > Kao.....

Dude, just read the fight. It's in my Vos respect thread, which you can find through my sig. I can't even begin to be bothered addressing everything else... you're getting so much wrong that it's not even worth it.

I'm gonna need specifics on where it is in your respect thread I'm afraid, and I'm guessing you probably only posted the scans of the fight itself and not the other pertinent scenes of the story, which is the context this thread actually needs right now.

Maybe it's best we end this here as you're clearly far too narrowminded and stubborn to possibly consider any alternative viewpoints to your own.

I've done the Quinlan Vos/Agen Kolar context dance literally dozens of times. I can't be bothered anymore, especially with someone who doesn't even remember key times/events in the comics he's referencing.

Which won't be a problem if someone posts a link to the comics.

Question: did you personally conclude that Quinlan Vos was in no way conflicted or otherwise disadvantaged in that engagement?

I've personally concluded that he could have been but there's no real way of knowing one way or the other.

Then why are you acting like it's definitively a great feat?

Because it is. Quinlan is always conflicted.

And similarly he always sucks ass. His only good feats were performed after achieving peace of mind, otherwise he's either getting dominated or operating on a mediocre level.

Oh dear lord.

Be quiet whore.

Originally posted by I Love Satsumas
I've done the Quinlan Vos/Agen Kolar context dance literally dozens of times. I can't be bothered anymore, especially with someone who doesn't even remember key times/events in the comics he's referencing.

Which is interesting considering you regularly debate Bane and haven't even read his trilogy! You sir are a naughty young lady. Less whisky and peanut butter and jelly sandwitches for you my oh so very well groomed friend. 😉

Darach solidly, won't be much of a fight.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Agen Kolar most definately. His godstomp of Vos is above anything Darach has shown imo.

Subjectivity at its finest, Kolar have nothing on Darach. Vos's loss to him is indication of his lack of competence or development at that time, not a plus for Kolar who got blitzed by a real adversary.

@apple

Actually, I choose not to debate in Bane-related threads for that very reason.

But hey, you're now a confirmed follower/troll who will bump threads and try your best to rustle me. You have much to learn, but I can appreciate the work ethic you're putting up.

Kolar who got blitzed by a real adversary.
*implying Darach would do any better against Sidious* 🙄

Originally posted by ILS
Two featless opponents. Wielding a saberstaff and saber simultaneously and deceiving Vindican by igniting the blade suddenly were decent, but not enough to surpass Kolar who has dismantled a fighter in Vos who already has better feats than Darach.

Two feat-less opponents? How about focus on (known) facts of the characters involved? Malgus, even at this point, was among the greatest warriors of the Empire. And Vindican, at this point, was Malgus's tutor with advanced mastery of the Force.

Show me an example of Kolar matching the sophistication and dueling ability on par with that of Darach. Do you realize how difficult that maneuver was? I guess not. It was so difficult that you won't find matching examples in the entirely of the mythos.

Vos have better feats then Darach, fantastic. 🙄 Do fans of PT era characters ever tire of BS and subjectivity? I guess not.

You focus on the context of information that you present. How competent was Vos at the time of his confrontation against Kolar? Was his loss in part due to error of judgment on his part? And other reasons.

Individuals grow and change with passage of time. Satele Shan was a chump in Return cinematic and a titan in Hope cinematic, massive growth in power and skill during the span of two events.

Originally posted by ILS
*implying Darach would do any better against Sidious* 🙄

I'd imagine Darach would fall somewhere between Mace Windu and Kit Fisto in terms of how they performed against Sidious. I personally have him at the very least around ROTS Obi-Wan's level. He wouldn't get utterly blitzed like Agen.

You seem to massively underrate him for some reason, when he was an absolute badass that was performing shit we've never seen before. There's no shame in losing to a young Malgus. There's much more shame in getting utterly outclassed by a top tier movie character, movie characters being among the weakest Force Users in the mythos.

@guy with alternating caps in username

I thought Kolar showed a fair amount of sophistication when he nearly cut Vos' arm off...

There isn't much to support the notion that Vos was severely hindered in his fight with Kolar. People are just running with that idea to detriment Kolar cus Vos is Dark jedi so hindered lul

Originally posted by ILS
*implying Darach would do any better against Sidious* 🙄

Yes he would, much better actually.

Darach isn't some chump, he have solid feats under his belt with one of the most impressive combat skills ever witnessed in the mythos.

Originally posted by ILS
@apple

Actually, I choose not to debate in Bane-related threads

Factually incorrect, if you're speaking in absolute terms.

Dis thread