Star Trek vs. Star Wars

Started by -Pr-34 pages
Originally posted by focus4chumps
he never watched the show or the films, and everything he is saying about the borg is a mashup between stuff he saw on youtube with little/no context and scattered info he picked up while skimming through star trek wikis...in case you were wondering how all this ridiculousness is possible.

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I wasn't, but thank you. And yeah... If Trek is to succeed at all in this fight, the Borg are going to be a massive part of it. They'd still fight LIKE the borg, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Great, well, I based my disagreement on feats and capabilities, so I guess we're at an impasse.

Great, so the Borg, if they were at all interested, might assimilate the commander of one of the droid armies, many of which are commanded individually by droids themselves. the Borg at the most might turn them off, and that's a BIG IF. The Borg only worry about that which they consider a threat, and they'd be far more likely to just ignore the droids or nuke them from orbit. They would practically ignore them unless they considered the droids of worth, tbh. You really should read up on the Borg, like, seriously. You keep acting like they'll do things that are wildly out of character for them.

What irony?

They will seize control of the droid armies by assimilating the leadership of the Separatist armies. This isn't just about the Borg working on their own so it only makes sense to turn a massive army into their control as opposed to nuking it which isn't anywhere near as easily as you describe or else the clone wars wouldn't have been necessary at all.

This is about both sides working together so quit trying to tell me what they do when it isn't just them against the empire.

The irony of you being dead wrong about who controls the droids being organic beings.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
he never watched the show or the films, and everything he is saying about the borg is a mashup between stuff he saw on youtube with little/no context and scattered info he picked up while skimming through star trek wikis...in case you were wondering how all this ridiculousness is possible.
What have I said that is inaccurate ?

How would Vger factor in this battle? IIRC its tech was pretty sophisticated(lightyears ahead of anything the Starfleet had at that time), and it was capable of making jumps between different universes/dimensions.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Irony abounds.

"irony"

Originally posted by quanchi112
They will seize control of the droid armies by assimilating the leadership of the Separatist armies. This isn't just about the Borg working on their own so it only makes sense to turn a massive army into their control as opposed to nuking it which isn't anywhere near as easily as you describe or else the clone wars wouldn't have been necessary at all.

This is about both sides working together so quit trying to tell me what they do when it isn't just them against the empire.

The irony of you being dead wrong about who controls the droids being organic beings.

So the Borg fight in a way completely contradictory to their behaviour, just because you want them to?

Seriously, I'm asking.

Also, twisting things just to save face is a bad idea, so you probably shouldn't do it.

Ahem:

Originally posted by quanchi112
I get that Palpatine played both sides to further his own ends but the droid army was still a worthy opponent. To me they were always numerous but fodder. In the trek universe they'd annihilate the Droid army and with the Borg would assimilate and add them to their own.

Even if you want to talk about the Borg assimilating the organics, that in and of itself is unlikely. Which you would know if you had read up about the Borg.

Raoul, quit entertaining quanchi's trolling and answer my question:

Originally posted by Epicurus
How would Vger factor in this battle? IIRC its tech was pretty sophisticated(lightyears ahead of anything the Starfleet had at that time), and it was capable of making jumps between different universes/dimensions.

Originally posted by Epicurus
How would Vger factor in this battle? IIRC its tech was pretty sophisticated(lightyears ahead of anything the Starfleet had at that time), and it was capable of making jumps between different universes/dimensions.

To even get to V'Ger a SW ship would had to pass through that ultra-massive cloud and its attacks.

Originally posted by Robtard
To even get to V'Ger a SW ship would had to pass through that ultra-massive cloud and its attacks.

Since this is a movies only thread, I am right in presuming that Vger is allowed then?

Originally posted by Epicurus
Raoul, quit entertaining quanchi's trolling and answer my question:

No you. sneer

I missed your question, but yeah, like Robtard said it has that massive cloud to follow it.

There's also the Cetacean probe from Star Trek IV to worry about too.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Since this is a movies only thread, I am right in presuming that Vger is allowed then?

V'Ger was in a ST film. So I don't see why it wouldn't.

i dunno...in the end v'ger transcended to a new plane of existance and so for all intents and purposes was...well...gone for good. above the petty squabbles of man. or maybe it just wouldnt be fair at all with v'ger included.

Fair enough, but then the Death Star wouldn't be included, cos it exploded, both times.

What's the exact stipulations of the OP say? If it asks that the most powerful characters from the movies be used in the battle, then I am pretty sure it's a safe bet to include Vger as well.

After all quan does have a penchant for making lopsided threads stacked in the favor of the franchise he wants to win.

Originally posted by Robtard
"irony"
Just because I taught you what it means that doesn't mean you know it when you see it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So the Borg fight in a way completely contradictory to their behaviour, just because you want them to?

Seriously, I'm asking.

Also, twisting things just to save face is a bad idea, so you probably shouldn't do it.

Ahem:

Even if you want to talk about the Borg assimilating the organics, that in and of itself is unlikely. Which you would know if you had read up about the Borg.

Since when have the Borg ever allied themselves with the Dtarfleet, Klingons, etc. Kind of defeats the purpose of the thread if the Borg are separate and doing their own thing.

I didn't twist thing. Organic beings run the droids.

So the trek sides don't fight intelligently and work together ? You're avoiding the thread parameters itself to justify Wars winning.

Originally posted by Epicurus
What's the exact stipulations of the OP say? If it asks that the most powerful characters from the movies be used in the battle, then I am pretty sure it's a safe bet to include Vger as well.

After all quan does have a penchant for making lopsided threads stacked in the favor of the franchise he wants to win.

So movies vs. movies is lopsided ?

Pr claims it isn't fair for Star Wars and then you claim it is too lopsided for Trek. You're all crying like women over a fictional thread.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i dunno...in the end v'ger transcended to a new plane of existance and so for all intents and purposes was...well...gone for good. above the petty squabbles of man. or maybe it just wouldnt be fair at all with v'ger included.
Pr claims Star Wars films massacres Star Trek films. Talk to him. Films vs. films are all included.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough, but then the Death Star wouldn't be included, cos it exploded, both times.

calm down.

-deathstar was built by the empire, while v'ger was a product of freak unrepeatable chance.

-v'ger was not interested in combat nor could it be coerced/reprogrammed like the borg, so how the hell would they employ it's abilities?

It's a team Vs match, so it's teaming.

Otherwise the Borg would be attacking everyone. The Empire and the Rebel Alliance would be going at it etc.