Star Trek vs. Star Wars

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you saw one film ??

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More successful does not mean subjectively better. It is objectively more successful. But you can't argue subjectivity.

I also profiled this hilariously biased post.

Genesis device, and red matter are vastly superior. The force is vague and feats wise is kind of laughable to the big guns here.

Now if you mean just the movies and the clone wars than Star Trek may have a chance. A very small chance but still. If you mean the entire Star Wars universe than Star Trek is outclassed, as they are outgunned, outnumbered, overpowered, and virtually powerless to stop eras of Jedi and SITH, the Death Star, different civilizations of force weilders, THE FORCE ITSELF, entire fleets of star destroyers, lightsbaers, and so many different weapons and people and knowledge. If you mean movies and clone wars than Star Wars has the numbers edge and also the weapons edge and they have the force.

Good for you but doesn't change the fact Star Wars has THE FORCE.

Again I refer you to the quote "The power to destroy a planet is meaningless next to the power of the force" this implies/explicitly states that the force has powers that are greater than ability to DESTROY A FREAKIN PLANET. Now the clone wars also have the ones.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Now if you mean just the movies and the clone wars than Star Trek may have a chance. A very small chance but still. If you mean the entire Star Wars universe than Star Trek is outclassed, as they are outgunned, outnumbered, overpowered, and virtually powerless to stop eras of Jedi and SITH, the Death Star, different civilizations of force weilders, THE FORCE ITSELF, entire fleets of star destroyers, lightsbaers, and so many different weapons and people and knowledge. If you mean movies and clone wars than Star Wars has the numbers edge and also the weapons edge and they have the force.

Good for you but doesn't change the fact Star Wars has THE FORCE.

Again I refer you to the quote "The power to destroy a planet is meaningless next to the power of the force" this implies/explicitly states that the force has powers that are greater than ability to DESTROY A FREAKIN PLANET. Now the clone wars also have the ones.

The force itself does what exactly ? A singularity is going to end the Star Wars planets by planet. It doesn't even have to be that difficult due to the Genesis device. And you're also forgetting about the Borg who can assimilate and adapt to attacks.

Weapons, technology is very much in Trek's favor.

Hyperbole. I can prove what they are capable of while you can philosophize by that quote till your blue in the face.

Trek wins. Your ignorance knows no bounds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If I say all series for both Trek stomps. You haven't the foggiest.

The force itself does what exactly ? A singularity is going to end the Star Wars planets by planet. It doesn't even have to be that difficult due to the Genesis device. And you're also forgetting about the Borg who can assimilate and adapt to attacks.

Weapons, technology is very much in Trek's favor.

Hyperbole. I can prove what they are capable of while you can philosophize by that quote till your blue in the face.

Trek wins. Your ignorance knows no bounds.

Haha please Star Wars will far out power and out muscle Star Trek.

The force does anything. SITH have found the gateway to immortality within the force, moved moons, produced lighting, drained planets, choked, used telekenisis in many different ways, able to grab lightsbaers, deflect lightning, deflect blaster bolts, absorb lightning, fly, destroy entire armies, elevate your physical capabilities to the superhuman levels, precog, hel grevious injuries, SITH alchemy, the force is able to very fabric of the universe, create storms that can destroy entire armies, put lightsabers back in their hilts without touching them, and many many many others.

False. The quote is meant literally. You can't provide anything that doesn't disprove this. If vader says that, and his master was Sidious and obi wan, than its true

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Haha please Star Wars will far out power and out muscle Star Trek.

The force does anything. SITH have found the gateway to immortality within the force, moved moons, produced lighting, drained planets, choked, used telekenisis in many different ways, able to grab lightsbaers, deflect lightning, deflect blaster bolts, absorb lightning, fly, destroy entire armies, elevate your physical capabilities to the superhuman levels, precog, hel grevious injuries, SITH alchemy, the force is able to very fabric of the universe, create storms that can destroy entire armies, put lightsabers back in their hilts without touching them, and many many many others.

False. The quote is meant literally. You can't provide anything that doesn't disprove this. If vader says that, and his master was Sidious and obi wan, than its true

Then prove it. Saying it does anything without proving it based off a line is. Step up from retardation.

None of that is greater than a singularity or even comes close to the effectiveness Ina. War of the Genesis device.

Prove the quote by way of feats and do not cock stroke hyperbole. Debate based off evidence not a hyperbolic line that means nothing.

"It isn't what you know it's what you can prove."

Quanchi112,

Not that you knew who Q was when you first made the thread, but if you're going to bring in beings like Q and Uxbridge (look him up) now, what's the point? It's a spite thread. ST stomp-wins with the Q and/or Uxbridge, end of thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One letter, Q. Acquaint yourself you ignoramus.

Then prove it. Saying it does anything without proving it based off a line is. Step up from retardation.

None of that is greater than a singularity or even comes close to the effectiveness Ina. War of the Genesis device.

Prove the quote by way of feats and do not cock stroke hyperbole. Debate based off evidence not a hyperbolic line that means nothing.

"It isn't what you know it's what you can prove."

The Ones.

Darth Plagues found a way to create life and post pone his own life.(Stated by Sidious in ROTS). Darth Bane moved the moon in DoE if I'm not mistaken. Sidious and dooku use lightning as of the clone wars, AOTC, and ROTS, Sidious drained Byss in DE, Sidious, Dooku, savage, and maul all choke different victims throughout the clone wars and in ROTS, TK has been used in different ways throughout the franchise, tutaminis is able to absorb lightsaber(the ones in the clone wars) lightning, Dooku and yoda AOTC, and ROTS, and the clone wars, Dooku used TK to fly in the clone wars movie and you can use TK to levitate yourself, force storm or force push or just TK as seen by yoda in the clone wars, yoda and windu as of the clone wars movie(animated one) force augmentation as seen by how older people like yoda, Dooku and Sidious can move incredibly fast, TPM, next two,are SITH and Jedi abilities, as stated by the father that is why he kept his children ticked away from the rest of the world, force storm, the ones.

Haha you are amusing.

See list above.

And I've proved it. I'm brilliant.

Originally posted by Robtard
Quanchi112,

Not that you knew who Q was when you first made the thread, but if you're going to bring in beings like Q and Uxbridge (look him up) now, what's the point? It's a spite thread. ST stomp-wins with the Q and/or Uxbridge, end of thread.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The Ones.

Darth Plagues found a way to create life and post pone his own life.(Stated by Sidious in ROTS). Darth Bane moved the moon in DoE if I'm not mistaken. Sidious and dooku use lightning as of the clone wars, AOTC, and ROTS, Sidious drained Byss in DE, Sidious, Dooku, savage, and maul all choke different victims throughout the clone wars and in ROTS, TK has been used in different ways throughout the franchise, tutaminis is able to absorb lightsaber(the ones in the clone wars) lightning, Dooku and yoda AOTC, and ROTS, and the clone wars, Dooku used TK to fly in the clone wars movie and you can use TK to levitate yourself, force storm or force push or just TK as seen by yoda in the clone wars, yoda and windu as of the clone wars movie(animated one) force augmentation as seen by how older people like yoda, Dooku and Sidious can move incredibly fast, TPM, next two,are SITH and Jedi abilities, as stated by the father that is why he kept his children ticked away from the rest of the world, force storm, the ones.

Haha you are amusing.

See list above.

And I've proved it. I'm brilliant.

I never said they couldn't choke their victims. Again all the powers you named can't overcome the Genesis device nor are they close to the power of a singularity.

On top of all that Star Trek can transport people and objects faster than the speed of light. This is a wrap.

Also if we included the series Q can solo the Star Wars universe. Acquaint yourself with just a basic knowledge of the Star Trek universe before spouting nonsense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So ? We don't ever see Darth Plagueis although the I hope that is rectified in the next trilogy. When did Darth bane move the moon ? Prove it.

I never said they couldn't choke their victims. Again all the powers you named can't overcome the Genesis device nor are they close to the power of a singularity.

On top of all that Star Trek can transport people and objects faster than the speed of light. This is a wrap.

Also if we included the series Q can solo the Star Wars universe. Acquaint yourself with just a basic knowledge of the Star Trek universe before spouting nonsense.

Sidious proves this by saying he could manipulate the midiclorians so we don't need to see him. Go to Darth bane respect thread an under the telekenisis alter.

I just wanted to prove everything in that paragraph.

So they can teleport before their choked in less than a second.

The ones and celestially come to mind. I've actually done research on Q.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Sidious proves this by saying he could manipulate the midiclorians so we don't need to see him. Go to Darth bane respect thread an under the telekenisis alter.

I just wanted to prove everything in that paragraph.

So they can teleport before their choked in less than a second.

The ones and celestially come to mind. I've actually done research on Q.

So you're trying to reference non canon star wars legends stories, eh ?

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They have shields up. How can Jedi force choke them from outside the ship and with no access ? Are you this fanatical ?

So you think Star Wars can defeat Q. Explain. Keep digging that hole.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, we do since we don't know the context or what he actually did.

So you're trying to reference non canon star wars legends stories, eh ?

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They have shields up. How can Jedi force choke them from outside the ship and with no access ? Are you this fanatical ?

So you think Star Wars can defeat Q. Explain. Keep digging that hole.

Yes we do. And then we have his bio and other sources that prove this. Plagues was able to manipulate the midiclorians to create and sustain life. Boom. Period. You don't need to see anything.

This is Star Wars and vader references to it as well as Sidious knowing all SITH abilities makes for fairly plausible resources.

All shields can be broken. Jedi and SITH have shields up yet they are broken and plus the force choke ability doesn't travel like normal powers. It can by pass this little shield of yours.

The ones. The ones are gods in Star Wars and can do basically anything.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yes we do. And then we have his bio and other sources that prove this. Plagues was able to manipulate the midiclorians to create and sustain life. Boom. Period. You don't need to see anything.

This is Star Wars and vader references to it as well as Sidious knowing all SITH abilities makes for fairly plausible resources.

All shields can be broken. Jedi and SITH have shields up yet they are broken and plus the force choke ability doesn't travel like normal powers. It can by pass this little shield of yours.

The ones. The ones are gods in Star Wars and can do basically anything.

That isn't proof. Again.

What shield has it ever bypassed without seeing someone on a viewing screen ? All they have to do is use the gens is device to wipe out star wars by the scores or a little red matter to create the singularity planet by planet.

I see the Star Wars fanboys have conceded.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see the Star Wars fanboys have conceded.

I'm a Star Wars fanboy but I agree that Star Trek wins actually in a battle

Originally posted by Firefly218
I'm a Star Wars fanboy but I agree that Star Trek wins actually in a battle

Carry on.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am pleased a self confessed fanboy such as yourself openly concedes the argument for the resident Trek buff here.

Carry on.

Originally posted by Firefly218
I don't allow bias to taint my perceptions like you

Originally posted by quanchi112
Even though I know no such example exists please humor me. Provide one example where you believe bias has crept into my superior brain.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Khan vs Superman

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Now if you mean just the movies and the clone wars than Star Trek may have a chance. A very small chance but still. If you mean the entire Star Wars universe than Star Trek is outclassed, as they are outgunned, outnumbered, overpowered, and virtually powerless to stop eras of Jedi and SITH, the Death Star, different civilizations of force weilders, THE FORCE ITSELF, entire fleets of star destroyers, lightsbaers, and so many different weapons and people and knowledge. If you mean movies and clone wars than Star Wars has the numbers edge and also the weapons edge and they have the force.

Good for you but doesn't change the fact Star Wars has THE FORCE.

Again I refer you to the quote "The power to destroy a planet is meaningless next to the power of the force" this implies/explicitly states that the force has powers that are greater than ability to DESTROY A FREAKIN PLANET. Now the clone wars also have the ones.

You clearly know nothing about Star Trek. If we're taking all expanded stories into the argument then Star Trek has a single being that can wipe out all of Star Wars with a mere thought. Kevin Uxbridge, a Douwd, killed 50,000,000,000 Husnock. Every single member of that species in an instant by simply thinking it.

Even with just the scope of technology and industrial power you cite the death star as a high point of Star Wars tech. In Trek you have a species who built a Dyson's Sphere that completely enveloped a star far enough from it that people lived on the inside of the shell and captured all the energy from the star. To put that in perspective the Death Star is the size of a small moon. It's 160km in diameter. The Dyson's Sphere in star trek is 200,000,000km in diameter which is a construction the size of earth's orbit around the sun.

As for fleet size. In the thrawn trilogy a lost fleet of star destroyers with a few hundred ships is enough to tip the balance of power in the Galaxy. In Trek the Borg, a single species, is listed to have millions of worlds, billions of ships (each far larger than Star Destroyers) and trillions of drones. And they only inhabit primarily a proportion of 1/4 of the Galaxy.

One of Star Wars big power shows by standard star destroyers is a Base Delta Zero attack whereby 1 or several star destroyers pounds a planet's surface a turn a planet's surface to slag. One federation ship, the defiant, can incinerate a third of a planet in a single volley. It's a small ship with a small crew.

Then there's species like the Krenim imperium that have a ship that exists outside of spacetime and can eradicate entire species by sending their homeworlds and thus every planet the species has ever inhabited back in time to before the species existed.

Then you've got species 8472 that have tiny single operator ships that can combine in small groups of about 8 to blow up planet's death star style. And that species exists in its own fluid filled universe where it is the only species cos it killed everything else

You have the Q continuum which had weapons during their civil war that were basically, to human eyes, hand held muskets from the American civil war, but in reality were handheld weapons that fired Supernova sized explosions at each other.
Do I need to go on?