Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this place currently still in existence ? They sound about as moronic as emperor Sidious so maybe his troll ass is from there. This Wong sounds like the leader of the retarded Star Wars fanboys.
What is this now. Haha, you actually I'm trolling you. You truly are clueless.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2See you can't grasp the simple meaning of word.
Yes you are.Well Sidious was also able to choke people he couldn't see. Because obi doesn't have that ability stupid. If he had don't up you think he would have used it on someone such as ventress or Dooku or Anakin come one man I understand your bad at this but learn. Your Star Wars. The fact that the force weilders can do stuff with their mind and can seriously just ragdoll him or so much more.
Again that is almost irrelevant as no offensive force powers were used were there. That's called counter evidence. Well since they never used their force abilities kinda hard to say what they can and can't do since we don't see it. Anyone can because unlike Jedi who still ragdolled Jango has no defense to force attacks sos he can get shocked choked ragdolled if that force weilder so chooses.
I have just don't research on the genesis device. From what I've read it destructive powers is similar to that of the Death Star with the capability to blow up a planet and help remake it/ make it fit for colonization. But for it work has to hit the target, and well force weilder could first off capture it before it hits it's target or possibly stop it or flat out blow it up before it hits it's target.
Without shields being up and in close vicinity. 😂
Anakin had the ability and why doesn't Obi ? Ventress used the force choke on Obi and Anakin despite being less formidable than both ? 😂
False. Force powers were used. Under the duress of battle Obi didn't have the time to concentrate on his force powers used against Jango who was a moving target IMO.
It's power is far greater than a single planet. Your ignorance is appalling. You haven't the foggiest about Trek so get the **** out of the thread, coward.
How is the force wielder getting to it in time when it can easily activated before they managed to get there. Are you retarded ? Serious question.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this place currently still in existence ? They sound about as moronic as emperor Sidious so maybe his troll ass is from there. This Wong sounds like the leader of the retarded Star Wars fanboys.
The give Jedi/Sith abilities they have never demonstrated before and basically argue as if they are a no limits fallacy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
See you can't grasp the simple meaning of word.Without shields being up and in close vicinity. 😂
Anakin had the ability and why doesn't Obi ? Ventress used the force choke on Obi and Anakin despite being less formidable than both ? 😂
False. Force powers were used. Under the duress of battle Obi didn't have the time to concentrate on his force powers used against Jango who was a moving target IMO.
It's power is far greater than a single planet. Your ignorance is appalling. You haven't the foggiest about Trek so get the **** out of the thread, coward.
How is the force wielder getting to it in time when it can easily activated before they managed to get there. Are you retarded ? Serious question.
Haha. Now your describing yourself.
Put two and two together. He doesn't need to see a person and he can be far away, put two and two together.
It's a dark side ability, that's why windu has the ability of force crush as his species is linked to the dark side and he channels dark side power. Anikan is the chosen one and when he did in ROTS he was on the dark side. Anyone can learn the ability but lightsiders find it to aggressive or close to the dark side so they don't use it. Well ventress was a dark sider/assassin trained by a SITH lord so yes she would be able to do it. 😂 Is that all you got.
Now you may read over words so I'm going to say it again. I said offensive force powers since you definitely would be trying to say force powers were used so i said offensive powers. So in neither of their battles were offensive force powers were used. That's evidence.
I've read the cannon version about it, I've done research on it. So yes I know enough about it to know its capability. Again per the research it has the power to reduce an entire planet to subatomic particles just like the Death Star. Basic point, each destroys a planet and all life on it. Now while I admit the genesis device can do more than just blow up planets it's destructive power is something the Death Star can replicate.
From what I've read it has to touch it's target and to do that it would have to be deployed from a ship or other wise be placed by a being and with that could be stopped by a force weilder if they knew about with simple TK as it isn't some gigantic station like the Death Star it's a smaller projectile so not something they would have trouble controlling. Out of all the post you've made and all the threads you really don't have any room to call anyone retarded or ask if they are retarded as you are the most retarded person on this forum. So no I'm not retarded as I'm successful in my education by a long shot unlike you who I believe failed the fourth grade.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Anyone who debates without knowledge of the opposition is a troll.Trek slaughters Wars at this point. Accept it, troll.
You really don't think I could be gaining knowledge of Star Trek you idiot. Also you are a troll, look at the khan vs yoda thread. Almost 100 pages of you being stupid.
This is an opinion thread not fact. You trek, I say Star Wars, so no there is no excepting anything.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2*You're
Haha. Now your describing yourself.Put two and two together. He doesn't need to see a person and he can be far away, put two and two together.
It's a dark side ability, that's why windu has the ability of force crush as his species is linked to the dark side and he channels dark side power. Anikan is the chosen one and when he did in ROTS he was on the dark side. Anyone can learn the ability but lightsiders find it to aggressive or close to the dark side so they don't use it. Well ventress was a dark sider/assassin trained by a SITH lord so yes she would be able to do it. 😂 Is that all you got.
Now you may read over words so I'm going to say it again. I said offensive force powers since you definitely would be trying to say force powers were used so i said offensive powers. So in neither of their battles were offensive force powers were used. That's evidence.
I've read the cannon version about it, I've done research on it. So yes I know enough about it to know its capability. Again per the research it has the power to reduce an entire planet to subatomic particles just like the Death Star. Basic point, each destroys a planet and all life on it. Now while I admit the genesis device can do more than just blow up planets it's destructive power is something the Death Star can replicate.
From what I've read it has to touch it's target and to do that it would have to be deployed from a ship or other wise be placed by a being and with that could be stopped by a force weilder if they knew about with simple TK as it isn't some gigantic station like the Death Star it's a smaller projectile so not something they would have trouble controlling. Out of all the post you've made and all the threads you really don't have any room to call anyone retarded or ask if they are retarded as you are the most retarded person on this forum. So no I'm not retarded as I'm successful in my education by a long shot unlike you who I believe failed the fourth grade.
He needs to know where they are. We never see any Jedi or Sith just force choke someone behind a shield ever. If that was the case why do they physically need to board ships ? Can't you think ?
Si I have examples of good Jedi doing so you have no logical reason to say the power is beyind Obi. The Jedi kill so why is it off limits ? You make no logical sense. I just proved you wrong with my example of a weaker Sith overpowering and having two more powerful Jedi with a force choke. Even force users struggle to overcome this due to being weak.
It's range reaches far wider than a mere planet so no you're just lying. You're an idiot. It is far more powerful than anything feat wise from the Star Wars universe to date.
Saying offensive powers is putting a spin on things. Force powers were used and that isn't a biased statement. You changing the narrative is a troll tactic.
Can the force stop ships firing blasts with the force ? Nah. Force users can't stop a singularity either. Quit being a troll and cite evidence not hyperbolic force conquers all bullshit.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So you admit you're ignorant and trying to play catch up as we speak while defending a thread in which you ignorantly argued against a character you know nothing about.
You really don't think I could be gaining knowledge of Star Trek you idiot. Also you are a troll, look at the khan vs yoda thread. Almost 100 pages of you being stupid.This is an opinion thread not fact. You trek, I say Star Wars, so no there is no excepting anything.
You haven't cited evidence and only troll. The force fails. Again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
*You'reHe needs to know where they are. We never see any Jedi or Sith just force choke someone behind a shield ever. If that was the case why do they physically need to board ships ? Can't you think ?
Si I have examples of good Jedi doing so you have no logical reason to say the power is beyind Obi. The Jedi kill so why is it off limits ? You make no logical sense. I just proved you wrong with my example of a weaker Sith overpowering and having two more powerful Jedi with a force choke. Even force users struggle to overcome this due to being weak.
It's range reaches far wider than a mere planet so no you're just lying. You're an idiot. It is far more powerful than anything feat wise from the Star Wars universe to date.
Saying offensive powers is putting a spin on things. Force powers were used and that isn't a biased statement. You changing the narrative is a troll tactic.
Can the force stop ships firing blasts with the force ? Nah. Force users can't stop a singularity either. Quit being a troll and cite evidence not hyperbolic force conquers all bullshit.
Again this is the force. He doesn't need to even see opponents just feel them in the force as he was able to choke those two mandalorian guards without even seeing them. Again Jedi have force shields up and if powerful enough you can break through it.
What examples do you have that is to the movies even in the clone wars. Only anikan per the movies had demonstrated force choke and was a Jedi. Windu is of a certain path(vaapad, and his species is atoned to the dark side. I've given you a logical reason. Obi wan is a lightsiders and lightsiders don't use dark side abilities normally. What examples do you have of other than anikan using force choke and being a lightsiders. If obi had it, he would have used it. The Jedi are a force for good and killing isn't good so they avoid it as much possible and that is one way to avoid and they most likely classify it as a dark side ability so they don't use it. You haven't proved me wrong you just proved me right. A weaker SITH. SITH are of the dark side obi isn't. There powers stem from two different places, obi is from the lights, ventress the dark. If yoda had force choke but he never used it this he doesn't have it and he's more powerful than Dooku. Boom.
I have read the CANNON version of it. It says it can destroy entire planets, make them worthy to hold life or become a class M planet, and can make life on the planet no matter what the condition. So really up I must be right if you aren't giving any specific powers and just saying your wrong when I've read up on the device. So I must be right if you aren't saying what it really does.
Whether force powers were used I said Offes even force powers. So no matter what address what I'm saying not what you want to. That's how one debates. I know you have trouble debating. No saying offensive force powers isn't biased. It's plainly saying no offensive force powers were used sense when I said force powers you wanted to get nit picky and say he used force pull which isn't an aggressive power. So blame that on yourself troll.
Well the force can do so much. You haven't explored the force fully and with vader saying it which he means literally the force wins. So quite being a big baby and learn to accept it. I've cited plenty of evidence so your out of luck sir.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit you're ignorant and trying to play catch up as we speak while defending a thread in which you ignorantly argued against a character you know nothing about.You haven't cited evidence and only troll. The force fails. Again.
Sigh. It's a shame how dumb you really are. Also you can't read at all.
I've cited plenty, apparently more than you can handle. The force stomps just like Sidious and yoda stomp khan. 😂
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2How does he force choke past the shields ? You can continue to pretend force choking on a shielded ship is possible but you haven't any proof.
Again this is the force. He doesn't need to even see opponents just feel them in the force as he was able to choke those two mandalorian guards without even seeing them. Again Jedi have force shields up and if powerful enough you can break through it.What examples do you have that is to the movies even in the clone wars. Only anikan per the movies had demonstrated force choke and was a Jedi. Windu is of a certain path(vaapad, and his species is atoned to the dark side. I've given you a logical reason. Obi wan is a lightsiders and lightsiders don't use dark side abilities normally. What examples do you have of other than anikan using force choke and being a lightsiders. If obi had it, he would have used it. The Jedi are a force for good and killing isn't good so they avoid it as much possible and that is one way to avoid and they most likely classify it as a dark side ability so they don't use it. You haven't proved me wrong you just proved me right. A weaker SITH. SITH are of the dark side obi isn't. There powers stem from two different places, obi is from the lights, ventress the dark. If yoda had force choke but he never used it this he doesn't have it and he's more powerful than Dooku. Boom.
I have read the CANNON version of it. It says it can destroy entire planets, make them worthy to hold life or become a class M planet, and can make life on the planet no matter what the condition. So really up I must be right if you aren't giving any specific powers and just saying your wrong when I've read up on the device. So I must be right if you aren't saying what it really does.
Whether force powers were used I said Offes even force powers. So no matter what address what I'm saying not what you want to. That's how one debates. I know you have trouble debating. No saying offensive force powers isn't biased. It's plainly saying no offensive force powers were used sense when I said force powers you wanted to get nit picky and say he used force pull which isn't an aggressive power. So blame that on yourself troll.
Well the force can do so much. You haven't explored the force fully and with vader saying it which he means literally the force wins. So quite being a big baby and learn to accept it. I've cited plenty of evidence so your out of luck sir.
Jedi kill. You making something up without any real evidence and just Anither worth roses theory of yours. Jedi kill all the time. Windu was even going to kill Palpatine despite knowing it was wrong. Yoda and Obi killed clones so don't act like they don't kill in battle. Why wouldn't they use the force to kill if their sabers will kill ? You don't make any sense yet again.
Canon. Cannons fire cannonballs you fool. No, you are misinformed if you think it just affects a planet. You're wrong and haven't seen the film. You disgust me.
The only objective way is to say force powers. Trying to ignore the times it was used by DNA going the narrative is the way of bias.
We don't have any feats of it doing anything comparable to destroying a planet so Vader is an idiot. Hyperbole isn't debating, boy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How does he force choke past the shields ? You can continue to pretend force choking on a shielded ship is possible but you haven't any proof.Jedi kill. You making something up without any real evidence and just Anither worth roses theory of yours. Jedi kill all the time. Windu was even going to kill Palpatine despite knowing it was wrong. Yoda and Obi killed clones so don't act like they don't kill in battle. Why wouldn't they use the force to kill if their sabers will kill ? You don't make any sense yet again.
Canon. Cannons fire cannonballs you fool. No, you are misinformed if you think it just affects a planet. You're wrong and haven't seen the film. You disgust me.
The only objective way is to say force powers. Trying to ignore the times it was used by DNA going the narrative is the way of bias.
We don't have any feats of it doing anything comparable to destroying a planet so Vader is an idiot. Hyperbole isn't debating, boy.
Force weilder have shields. They can choke past the telekinetic shields of other force weilders. This is shown by how ventress was able to break through obi wans and Anikan, how Sidious was able to penetrate Anakin, and dooku in ROTS.
Well what ever evidence I bring to you the point is obi can't do it as of the obi wan we see. It's a dark side power just like lightning that's why we didn't see yoda using it, or any other being who is a Jedi onscreen or on TCW using it and being a Jedi. Yes they kill but they don't like the SITH agree with all out aggression. Force choke is described as a dark side ability which is why obi wan wouldn't use it as his master taught him the ways of the living force. Also again if obi had it he would have used it so no he doesn't have that ability.
Well cannon do fire cannonballs I fount see what that has to do with anything. Again you aren't saying anything to correct me just saying I'm wrong, so really until you do that's what I'm sticking with and that's what I've read so shut up you disgusting animal.
The only way to get you off back and to shut up is to say offensive force powers. No it's not bias it's specifying what is being looked for. You can use force powers all day long, but what is being examined is offensive force powers.
Vader is a very intelligent being and is taught by one of the most intelligent beings of all time so yes his statement is to be meant literally. Cannon or not the force has demonstrated plenty of powers that would destroy Star Trek. So yes the force is pretty dang powerful. Hyperbole maybe not, literally yes.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Force weilder have shields. They can choke past the telekinetic shields of other force weilders. This is shown by how ventress was able to break through obi wans and Anikan, how Sidious was able to penetrate Anakin, and dooku in ROTS.Well what ever evidence I bring to you the point is obi can't do it as of the obi wan we see. It's a dark side power just like lightning that's why we didn't see yoda using it, or any other being who is a Jedi onscreen or on TCW using it and being a Jedi. Yes they kill but they don't like the SITH agree with all out aggression. Force choke is described as a dark side ability which is why obi wan wouldn't use it as his master taught him the ways of the living force. Also again if obi had it he would have used it so no he doesn't have that ability.
Well cannon do fire cannonballs I fount see what that has to do with anything. Again you aren't saying anything to correct me just saying I'm wrong, so really until you do that's what I'm sticking with and that's what I've read so shut up you disgusting animal.
The only way to get you off back and to shut up is to say offensive force powers. No it's not bias it's specifying what is being looked for. You can use force powers all day long, but what is being examined is offensive force powers.
Vader is a very intelligent being and is taught by one of the most intelligent beings of all time so yes his statement is to be meant literally. Cannon or not the force has demonstrated plenty of powers that would destroy Star Trek. So yes the force is pretty dang powerful. Hyperbole maybe not, literally yes.
That is untrue. We can see lasers kill them. No shields and do not compare the shields in trek to Yoda's shitty lightning redirect. You're a moron.
Lightning is different but the other one I have a Jedi doing so you're wrong there. You trying to change the narrativeisn't actual debating.
He also said he'd rule the Galaxy and save padme. He also thought Palpatine wasn't evil. He also believed Palpatine when he said Vader killed her. He was one of the most gullible, moronic characters in the film.
😂
Trek wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is untrue. We can see lasers kill them. No shields and do not compare the shields in trek to Yoda's shitty lightning redirect. You're a moron.Lightning is different but the other one I have a Jedi doing so you're wrong there. You trying to change the narrativeisn't actual debating.
He also said he'd rule the Galaxy and save padme. He also thought Palpatine wasn't evil. He also believed Palpatine when he said Vader killed her. He was one of the most gullible, moronic characters in the film.
😂Trek wins.
Considering one is meant to block telekinetic attacks and not blaster your point has no weight. Also Yodas redirect is called tutaminis which is meant on the individual. Learn your Star Wars kid.
You have one Jedi and he's special. Anikan is the chosen one and when he uses it he taps into the dark side. So no I'm still right. Anikan had to power to become the most powerful force weilder the universe would ever know, so yes it's more than likely he would have the capability to use force choke. Also in all the instances we see him use it he's using one of the dark side emotions or is a dark sider. The only other times I can recall he used it were on Poggle the lesser, and he was angry due to interrogating Poggle trying to find out how to help Ahsoka, force choked ventress, due to being angry trying to find answers about Ahsoka, and other instances all of him being angry or desperate or another dark side emotion.
Well considering that was done as Anikan Skywlaker before he received training from palpatine not really helpful in your case. As vader he is much smarter and knows more. Boom. However I must agree Anikan did appear to be quite dense. However he was going through some stuff though.
Opinion. It's like Dooku vs Windu. Everyone will have their own views, there is no one correct answer.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So you agree they can't repel phaser fire. Good. I am aware he can't redirect lasers just weak force lightning.
Considering one is meant to block telekinetic attacks and not blaster your point has no weight. Also Yodas redirect is called tutaminis which is meant on the individual. Learn your Star Wars kid.You have one Jedi and he's special. Anikan is the chosen one and when he uses it he taps into the dark side. So no I'm still right. Anikan had to power to become the most powerful force weilder the universe would ever know, so yes it's more than likely he would have the capability to use force choke. Also in all the instances we see him use it he's using one of the dark side emotions or is a dark sider. The only other times I can recall he used it were on Poggle the lesser, and he was angry due to interrogating Poggle trying to find out how to help Ahsoka, force choked ventress, due to being angry trying to find answers about Ahsoka, and other instances all of him being angry or desperate or another dark side emotion.
Well considering that was done as Anikan Skywlaker before he received training from palpatine not really helpful in your case. As vader he is much smarter and knows more. Boom. However I must agree Anikan did appear to be quite dense. However he was going through some stuff though.
Opinion.
So I have two examples and Jedi kill. You make no sense and avoid the evidence. As per the norm.
Dude, it's spelled Anakin. You're such a noob. Anakin is Darth Vader. He still followed Palpatine and flip flopped again. He let him torture his own son before he finally found his balls again. He died like a pathetic character in the end.
A well supported opinion unlike yours.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree they can't repel phaser fire. Good. I am aware he can't redirect lasers just weak force lightning.So I have two examples and Jedi kill. You make no sense and avoid the evidence. As per the norm.
Dude, it's spelled Anakin. You're such a noob. Anakin is Darth Vader. He still followed Palpatine and flip flopped again. He let him torture his own son before he finally found his balls again. He died like a pathetic character in the end.
A well supported opinion unlike yours.
Actually tutaminis is stated to deflect lightning, blaster bolts, and even lightsabers. Also Sidious has arguably the most powerful force lightning of all time so why would you call Sidious lightning weak. The TK shields maybe not but tutaminis and a lightsaber can.
Anikan is one and I explained his, if you mean Barris she turned to the dark side. So again what is not making sense? So you admit your stupidity. As per the norm you are a troll, idiot, and a crapy debater.
Spell check first off and do you get the point? Anikan/Anakin do you get the point. The two have different mind sets, different strategic powers, different methods. So while Anakin turned into Darth vader, how they do things, how they approach different situations, how they fight is different.