Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I know it seems unrealistic, but I can only work with what I'm given, and no matter what I see happening in TOR, I do know that Palpatine is aware of who Vitiate is, but is still called more powerful. Vitiate may be more powerful than Palpatine in some areas, but for now, I have to assume Palpatine is still the most powerful overall.
I'd say Vitiate is top 3 in terms of Sith, but the Emperor has him beat in accolades and feats.
Originally posted by carthage
He'd get wtpfwned by any high tier or mid tier duelist without a nexus.Why people idolize a terribly designed clone version sans the skill and character of Palpatine is beyond me.
It's because Bioware built him up and made him out to be the most powerful Force user anyone, by that time, has ever encountered. However, the way they wrote it in the TOR Encyclopedia has people interpreting Vitiate as the most powerful, ever, and since the publication date of the Encyclopedia is more recent than Palpatine's sources, they look at that to say he's more powerful than Palpatine, rather than a titan in his own right and the most powerful up to that point in galactic history.
Originally posted by carthage
He's a pussy and has to be amped of course. He couldn't even take anyone based on natural ability. He's not as strong as the SWTOR fanboys make him out to be without a nexus.
---
Emperor Vitiate defeats 4 of the strongest Jedi in the galaxy simultaneously on a space station:
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
It's because Bioware built him up and made him out to be the most powerful Force user anyone, by that time, has ever encountered. However, the way they wrote it in the TOR Encyclopedia has people interpreting Vitiate as the most powerful, ever, and since the publication date of the Encyclopedia is more recent than Palpatine's sources, they look at that to say he's more powerful than Palpatine, rather than a titan in his own right and the most powerful up to that point in galactic history.
Except he got beaten by the Hero of Tython on a nexus, and we know Yoda is stronger than the Hero of Tython. Sidious is on par with Yoda.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Except he got beaten by the Hero of Tython on a nexus, and we know Yoda is stronger than the Hero of Tython. Sidious is on par with Yoda.
True, the HoT did beat him, but wasn't Vitiate in a weakened state at that time? It's been a while since I beat the JK story line. I was more referring to the quote in the Encyclopedia that explicitly refers to Vitiate as the most powerful, ever. I agree that Yoda is stronger than the HoT, but, I believe Sidious is stronger than Yoda. It did state in the New Essential Chronology that Yoda was unable to defeat him. Even in the film, he says "Failed, I have".
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
True, the HoT did beat him, but wasn't Vitiate in a weakened state at that time? It's been a while since I beat the JK story line. I was more referring to the quote in the Encyclopedia that explicitly refers to Vitiate as the most powerful, ever. I agree that Yoda is stronger than the HoT, but, I believe Sidious is stronger than Yoda. It did state in the New Essential Chronology that Yoda was unable to defeat him. Even in the film, he says "Failed, I have".
But here:
You've learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
True, the HoT did beat him, but wasn't Vitiate in a weakened state at that time? It's been a while since I beat the JK story line. I was more referring to the quote in the Encyclopedia that explicitly refers to Vitiate as the most powerful, ever. I agree that Yoda is stronger than the HoT, but, I believe Sidious is stronger than Yoda. It did state in the New Essential Chronology that Yoda was unable to defeat him. Even in the film, he says "Failed, I have".
"In his contest with Sidious, YOda realizes he is overmatched and deserts the fight, perhaps because his spirit has been broken by so many Jedi deaths."
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You expecting OP (Lord Stark) to give you proper information about Emperor Vitiate? Your faith in him is misplaced.But here:
You've learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all.
And then the HoT saves their companion giving Vitiate time to recoup.