Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You expecting OP (Lord Stark) to give you proper information about Emperor Vitiate? Your faith in him is misplaced.But here:
You've learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all.
Ok, so the HoT, a powerhouse and likely the strongest Jedi in Order at that time, did defeat a weakened Vitiate. I'm not diminishing his accomplishment, only saying that the battle might have gone very differently if Vitiate had been at full strength on DK.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
And then the HoT saves their companion giving Vitiate time to recoup.
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
Ok, so the HoT, a powerhouse and likely the strongest Jedi in Order at that time, did defeat a weakened Vitiate. I'm not diminishing his accomplishment, only saying that the battle might have gone very differently if Vitiate had been at full strength on DK.
HoT also had help from his droid in this encounter.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
....but even thereafter you save your companion and the mission description still notes that Vitiate's weakened. Why would he recoup significantly in minutes if he hadn't in hours?
Does the mission description change at all? Because Scourge himself says the Hero of Tython gave Vitiate time to recover.
Honestly, T7 is very impressive droid.
- MUCH OF T7'S SERVICE RECORD is shrouded in mystery, but he has clearly been modified well beyond his factory specifications.
- The accumulated experience stored in T7's memory provides this sturdy unit with expertise far above the average droid.
- COMBAT SPECIALITY: Heavy-armored ranged fire support
Yeah, it changes. Specifically from:
"You’ve learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all."
to:
"Once again you find yourself face to face with the Emperor, the monster that seeks to destroy all life in the galaxy."
However, the 2nd part of my post is far more significant.
It's either:
"You’ve learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all. While you and T7 searched the Dark Temple for the Emperor, you learned that one of your companions was in trouble! Fortunately you defeated the Imperial Guards in time to save your friend."
or
"You’ve learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all. While your other companions risk their lives to draw off the Imperial forces, you and T7 need to confront the Emperor himself."
Upon confronting him face to face it changes to:
"Once again you find yourself face to face with the Emperor, the monster that seeks to destroy all life in the galaxy. This time, however, you have no intention of allowing his will to dominate your mind."
In both cases.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It's either:"You’ve learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all. While you and T7 searched the Dark Temple for the Emperor, you learned that one of your companions was in trouble! Fortunately you defeated the Imperial Guards in time to save your friend."
or
"You’ve learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all. While your other companions risk their lives to draw off the Imperial forces, you and T7 need to confront the Emperor himself."
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Then I don't see what the issue is. Vitiate was temporarily weakened and recuperating on Dromund Kaas, necessitating your infiltration of the Temple and attack. That does not preclude the idea that Vitiate is recovering, especially when Scourge himself notes it post-mission.
Emperor Vitiate was (is) too strong to handle in fair manner; a Jedi Strike Team failed to stop him in a fair confrontation. Therefore, plan was to make Emperor Vitiate vulnerable and then strike at him; this vulnerability emerged when HoT disrupted Emperor's plan to consume the galaxy with assistance from Scourge. Scourge's assistance proved to be beneficial to the Jedi Order.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
According to common sense. If Vitiate had been attempting his recovery for hours, mere minutes would not bring significant effect. Plus Scourge notes that it's imperative Vitiate doesn't regain his full strength.
....wha?
Vitiate has presumably been recovering the entire time; no one is suggesting the healing process begins as the Hero encroaches upon the throne room. That wouldn't make any sense at all.
Which is in line with Scourge's remark post-mission that the Hero gave Vitiate time to recover by saving his friends.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
....wha?
You'll see, in due time.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Vitiate has presumably been recovering the entire time; no one is suggesting the healing process begins as the Hero encroaches upon the throne room. That wouldn't make any sense at all.
Of course. As you advance through the mission itself however, the description still notes that Vitiate is weakened, even as you encroach upon his throne room. Which would make sense, considering the power needed to perform such a ritual, then having it backfire. Furthermore, this proves my point that if he was recovering the whole time (which he was), a few minutes to save your companion wouldn't mean much.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Which is in line with Scourge's remark post-mission that the Hero gave Vitiate time to recover by saving his friends.
I actually don't remember this, "post mission," remark, tbh. Would you mind supplying me with it? And, as mentioned, Scourge notes that it was imperative to the success of the mission that Vitiate doesn't gather his full strength, because, well, the HoT probably would've been beaten down then.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
You'll see, in due time.
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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Of course. As you advance through the mission itself however, the description still notes that Vitiate is weakened, even as you encroach upon his throne room. Which would make sense, considering the power needed to perform such a ritual, then having it backfire. Furthermore, this proves my point that if he was recovering the whole time (which he was), a few minutes to save your companion wouldn't mean much.
Yeah, I think that's where you're confused. The fact that the mission description doesn't change doesn't mean that Vitiate's condition hasn't. "You’ve learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all." All this does is convey the general purpose of your mission, it doesn't mean that Vitiate's condition is static.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I actually don't remember this, "post mission," remark, tbh. Would you mind supplying me with it? And, as mentioneed, Scourge notes that it was imperative to the success of the mission that Vitiate doesn't gather his full strength, because, well, the HoT probably would've been beaten down then.
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9:51. We don't know how long it took for Tython to rescue his companions. The bottom line is that Vitiate apparently had enough time to gather his energies (which makes sense, since he's recuperating on a powerful dark side nexus that sits atop another powerful dark side nexus). The fact that the mission description doesn't provide regular reports of Vitiate's convalescence doesn't change that.