Why I think Vitiate may be the most powerful Sith ever

Yeah, obviously. 🙂

Its not like Sidious needs accolades to be superior to pre-Ziost Vitiate anyway.

ROTS does. 🙂🙂🙂

Meh, only if you factor in Vitiate multitasking and therefore not being able to use his full power. Even than I doubt he was above the threat of lightsaber. Sidious was at least on he same level with him in the force and had much superior melee showings. Like, one guy is the best duelist of all times and the other doesn't know how to use a lightsaber.

If he was on the same level in the Force, he'd have possessed Anakin during Mustafar. Besides, the idea that not only is Vitiate radically weaker than Valkorion, but Sideous in RotS is better than both is hilarious, to say the least.

Possession is based on the target's strength of will and the possesor's strength of will is it not? So then how can you say for sure that Vitiate would be able to possess Anakin while Sidious could not.

Oh right you can't.

Idk, maybe Anakin's chosen one status ****s that all up. Like, the Son of Mortis never tried to infect him with the Dark Side like he did to Ahsoka, the Father never forced Anakin to take his place. Idk, maybe it's weird.

Yeah I don't see how Sidious not possessing Anakin proves that he is not on the same level with pre-Ziost Vitiate.

Why exactly would Sidious need to force possession with his servant who believes every lie? Sidious likely doesn't even have access to these esoteric powers, and even if he did, none of his other feats even compares to what we've seen Vitiate do.

Not sure how what you first said supports your argument.

We talked about this before, if SWTOR is rewriting itself, and Vitiate was in control of everything, that will change the power scaling, but as of now, I don't see how Vitiate's combat feats are superior to ROTS Sidious'.

Vitiate has better feats and more powers. He's better than Sidious in RotS.

His showings against Revan and Braga team is his best combat feats, and neither puts him above RotS Sidious.

Sure, if you think a weakened Valkorion is vastly below himself five years ago at full power, or Valkorion is vastly more powerful than himself a month earlier. It doesn't make sense, and soloing a Dark Council is his best combat feat.

Vitiate is the superior being. 🙂

Vitiate taking out 9 Dark Council Members; Tol Braga & HoT's strike team; Revan; & Revan, Surik and Scourge(potentially) is more impressive than any of Palpatine's Force-based victories.

Sidious has been stalemated by an amped Talzin, whom is certainly not as impressive as the reborn incarnation of Revan, and in all Force exchanges with Yoda, Sidious could not overwhelm him.

Granted Yoda is more powerful than Revan reborn, but not to the extent that stalemating him is more impressive than Vitiate overwhelming Revan's evidently masterful Force defenses and rendering him immobile.

Originally posted by Sinious
Not sure how what you first said supports your argument.

We talked about this before, if SWTOR is rewriting itself, and Vitiate was in control of everything, that will change the power scaling, but as of now, I don't see how Vitiate's combat feats are superior to ROTS Sidious'.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They made Vitiate a Darth. They called him Darth Vitiate. Obviously he's below Sidious.

Was that ever in question?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Vitiate taking out 9 Dark Council Members; Tol Braga & HoT's strike team; Revan; & Revan, Surik and Scourge(potentially) is more impressive than any of Palpatine's Force-based victories.

Overwhelming Tol Braga, a pre-prime HoT and some mooks - with effort mind - hardly being superior to overwhelming Windu's Vaapad and disarming Yoda. And seeing as Surik and Scourge couldn't even stand up to Nyriss, nah.

Sidious has been stalemated by an amped Talzin, whom is certainly not as impressive as the reborn incarnation of Revan, and in all Force exchanges with Yoda, Sidious could not overwhelm him.

Granted Yoda is more powerful than Revan reborn, but not to the extent that stalemating him is more impressive than Vitiate overwhelming Revan's evidently masterful Force defenses and rendering him immobile.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Was that ever in question?

"His [Palpatine's] power may be unparalleled in the history of the Sith." (Force & Destiny, 2015)

Should logically be inclusive of the Sith Emperor, who has mention in the same sourcebook. 👆