Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Started by EmperorSidious293 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
Windu reacted. Yoda reacted. Quit lying. Khan guns him down first based off the evidence. Based off your clip Khan kills him before Palpatine walks close to him. Khan ftw.

I said once under its power. You know once they've been hit they are at his mercy as Luke mace and yoda all were. Khan loses his guns based off evidence. Considering Sidious doesn't even need to see him let alone be in the same vicinity to kill khan that distance won't be a problem.

The poles have spoken. Sidious curbstomps

Originally posted by quanchi112
I do.

So about Khan's amazing speed fea.... oh

Yes.

Based on?

Then post the clip or reference the scene with the time frame.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4231/blasterplain1fc5.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6849/blasterplain6bc8.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/241/blasterplain3zo0.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9611/blasterplain5dn7.jpg

And that's just Geonosis

http://i28.tinypic.com/205ay2p.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/wwg977.jpg

Then there's Kasshyk, travelling a kilometer or so after being fired in two frames

Khan fires the phasers from dual guns here.

So?

They weren't Jango fett. They were featless noobs.

>the point
>your head

Khan took down Klingons, ships, and subdued Spock.

💃

Who have no speed feats 👆

LMAO

Still no speed feats for those featless noobs Khan cheap shotted?

😆

Oh and this is what happens to Khan in this fight:

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😆

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I said once under its power. You know once they've been hit they are at his mercy as Luke mace and yoda all were. Khan loses his guns based off evidence. Considering Sidious doesn't even need to see him let alone be in the same vicinity to kill khan that distance won't be a problem.
They were weapon less. Yoda was and despite him being weapon less he still later palmed and sent back the force lightning. They both start out seeing each other and Khan wins.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The poles have spoken. Sidious curbstomps
It is polls you illiterate piece of humanity.

Poles. 😂

You're hilariously pathetic.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
So about Khan's amazing speed fea.... oh

Based on?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4231/blasterplain1fc5.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6849/blasterplain6bc8.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/241/blasterplain3zo0.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9611/blasterplain5dn7.jpg

And that's just Geonosis

http://i28.tinypic.com/205ay2p.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/wwg977.jpg

Then there's Kasshyk, travelling a kilometer or so after being fired in two frames

So?

>the point
>your head

Who have no speed feats 👆

Watch his guns fire and you'll see how amazingly fast his weaponry is.

Films.

There is no time frame here. 😂

Two guns which are both faster and more powerful than the shit blasters used in Star Wars.

You don't have a point. Watch the Klingon scene and see amazing feats. Khan wins over the weak Palpatine who begs for his life.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
LMAO

Still no speed feats for those featless noobs Khan cheap shotted?

😆

Oh and this is what happens to Khan in this fight:

?v=mHacOCI_zYI

😆

This is what I've reduced you to. You do not respond to my detailed rebuttal and are just flame and troll.

Khan didn't kill them all before they defended themselves. Palpatine goes down. He has never ran into someone with the accuracy, weaponry, and ruthlessness of Khan. Khan is simply brilliant. He wins.

Stay out of my threads, troll.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is what I've reduced you to. You do not respond to my detailed rebuttal and are just flame and troll.

Every one of your worthless points has been thoroughly addressed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan didn't kill them all before they defended themselves. Palpatine goes down. He has never ran into someone with the accuracy, weaponry, and ruthlessness of Khan. Khan is simply brilliant. He wins.

Of course he has. He swarmed through 3 Jedi Council Masters who are accurate enough to deflect multiple blaster fire. And he did so in a few seconds.

Khan can't rip through such high level superhuman opponents in a few seconds. He couldn't even take Spock out in a few seconds 😂

Khan has never shown he can resist a telekinetic freezing. So all Khan's weapons are going to be completely useless in his hands, and into Sidious's hands the second Sidious wishes so.

And this is the umpteenth time I've ripped your post apart.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Stay out of my threads, troll.

And your Concession is formally accepted. 😆

Conceded to my battlezone challenge, and now you've conceded to me on your own Troll thread 😆

/thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, but distance and a specialized skill doesn't apply to all movements. That's the point.

Same reason a baseball player can hit a hundred mile an hour fastball greater than Bruce Lee but can't fight anywhere near with the same quickness as Bruce Lee.

Prove how quickly the blaster fire moves then. Until you do so you're just making up numbers. My points are awesome. Swinging a baseball bat doesn't mean the guy swinging is faster than 100 miles per hour.

😂

So you are going to do your bumbling moron routine. You are not understanding something very VERY basic. If you can move your arm fast enough to block blaster fire you can move your arm that fast to punch. Arm movement is arm movement bud, there are no two ways about it. Skill only comes into play in being able to accurately block the blast and deflect the blasts back at your enemy. But that has NOTHING to do with being able to react fast enough and move your arm fast enough to get it into position to block. That arm movement has nothing to do with skill. Either you can move your arm that fast or you can't.

Your analogy is simply God awful and it's almost embarrassing that you're trying to peddle it as something good. You said Kenobi can't be that fast, he got hit by a headbutt. That is some of the worst logic ever. Regular humans can react fast enough to block or dodge punches from other humans. Yet that doesn't mean you can avoid all punches or not get hit. Doesnt' mean boxers won't get it. They are quick enough to avoid it but doesn't mean they can every time for various reasons. Do you see how easy it was to trash your logic and turn it upside down with ease? You make this too easy quan.

Terrible analogy.. how fast you can swing a bat literally has nothing do with what we are talking about. Like nothing. We're talking about how fast you can move your hand. If you can move your hand fast enough to block blaster fire... you can move your hand that fast to try and punch. Doesnt' mean you'll connect but you have that arm speed ability. If you didn't you couldn't move your arm fast enough to block blaster fire, since they can, that without a shadow of a doubt means they can move their arm that fast. Are you now claiming they can't move there arms that fast?

Yup Quan has formally conceded... Palps EASILY wins. Even easier than the poll suggests

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Every one of your worthless points has been thoroughly addressed.

Of course he has. He swarmed through 3 Jedi Council Masters who are accurate enough to deflect multiple blaster fire. And he did so in a few seconds.

Khan can't rip through such high level superhuman opponents in a few seconds. He couldn't even take Spock out in a few seconds 😂

Khan has never shown he can resist a telekinetic freezing. So all Khan's weapons are going to be completely useless in his hands, and into Sidious's hands the second Sidious wishes so.

And this is the umpteenth time I've ripped your post apart.

And your Concession is formally accepted. 😆

Conceded to my battlezone challenge, and now you've conceded to me on your own Troll thread 😆

/thread.

You've tried to misrepresent my argument, flamed, ignored context, and hid from me for days while you've been posting on this forum elsewhere. 😉

That's the skill the Sith and Jedi possessed. They don't bring the weaponry Khan has to a sword fight while cool and all has no relevance to facing Khan's skill set and arsenal.

Yes, Khan can with his weaponry. Klingons were physically superhuman and he tore through them in seconds. Khan beat Spock without a weapon which makes that a moot point to the thread. Are you feeling ok ? Your emotions are taking control and you're really looking desperate.

Based on which Palpatine feat ? Which highly skilled opponent did he immediately disarm in under a second ? Come on, troll.

You conceded after you accepted my challenge a year ago. I don't battlezone lying, gutless trolls. Stay mad. Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were weapon less. Yoda was and despite him being weapon less he still later palmed and sent back the force lightning. They both start out seeing each other and Khan wins.

Exactly the moment Sidious shocked Mace, mace was at Palaptines mercy. Yoda used tutaminis so he wasn't powerless as he had the force and was blocking it. Luke for instance was being shocked and couldn't do anything to stop it. So when a person is being shocked by Sidious they are at his mercy. This is what will happen to Khan.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Exactly the moment Sidious shocked Mace, mace was at Palaptines mercy. Yoda used tutaminis so he wasn't powerless as he had the force and was blocking it. Luke for instance was being shocked and couldn't do anything to stop it. So when a person is being shocked by Sidious they are at his mercy. This is what will happen to Khan.
When sidious initially shocked him Palpatine was at his mercy due to the lightsaber redirecting it. Later after Anakin cut his arm off and he was weapon less of course he was at his mercy.

He wasn't powerless he was weapon less. Do you understand the difference ? Luke is an idiot but still survived because Palpatine didn't think his father might kill his ass.

Khan butchers Palpatine.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you are going to do your bumbling moron routine. You are not understanding something very VERY basic. If you can move your arm fast enough to block blaster fire you can move your arm that fast to punch. Arm movement is arm movement bud, there are no two ways about it. Skill only comes into play in being able to accurately block the blast and deflect the blasts back at your enemy. But that has NOTHING to do with being able to react fast enough and move your arm fast enough to get it into position to block. That arm movement has nothing to do with skill. Either you can move your arm that fast or you can't.

Your analogy is simply God awful and it's almost embarrassing that you're trying to peddle it as something good. You said Kenobi can't be that fast, he got hit by a headbutt. That is some of the worst logic ever. Regular humans can react fast enough to block or dodge punches from other humans. Yet that doesn't mean you can avoid all punches or not get hit. Doesnt' mean boxers won't get it. They are quick enough to avoid it but doesn't mean they can every time for various reasons. Do you see how easy it was to trash your logic and turn it upside down with ease? You make this too easy quan.

Terrible analogy.. how fast you can swing a bat literally has nothing do with what we are talking about. Like nothing. We're talking about how fast you can move your hand. If you can move your hand fast enough to block blaster fire... you can move your hand that fast to try and punch. Doesnt' mean you'll connect but you have that arm speed ability. If you didn't you couldn't move your arm fast enough to block blaster fire, since they can, that without a shadow of a doubt means they can move their arm that fast. Are you now claiming they can't move there arms that fast?

not all arm movement is arm movement you twit. He raises his arm to use a lightsaber to block. To punch he has to extend his arm much farther away from his body. Are you this simple ? Of course you are. Yes,it has to do with skill. A boxer is quite skilled with his hands but that doesn't mean he's on another level than humanity in terms of quickness. It means he's far more skilled at using his fists.

My point is every punch or kick Obi throws is much slower than any saber thrust due to the longer distance and him being untrained in hand to hand fighting as compared to lightsaber dueling. If a headbutt can hit him then a phaser blast is going to end him.

You're discounting the distance traveled to and the fact a punch has to travel away and at a farther distance. Just because a guy can hit a 100 mile per hour fastball doesn't mean he can punch ten times faster than someone who can't.

I'm superb.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yup Quan has formally conceded... Palps EASILY wins. Even easier than the poll suggests
Quit lying. Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When sidious initially shocked him Palpatine was at his mercy due to the lightsaber redirecting it. Later after Anakin cut his arm off and he was weapon less of course he was at his mercy.

He wasn't powerless he was weapon less. Do you understand the difference ? Luke is an idiot but still survived because Palpatine didn't think his father might kill his ass.

Khan butchers Palpatine.

Stay on topic. We aren't talking about before I'm talking about when we saw Windus skeleton. The only movement from him was him being shocked by electricity. Same with Luke he was being shocked and couldn't do anything to stop it once he was being shocked. So by feats Khan won't be able to move as he is being shocked. Also another example is maul and how he only moved due to flinching in a manner of speaking.

So with that I say to you yoda was neither as he had the force. So he had a weapon and a power. So thus do you understand the force.

Not before Sidious obliterates Khan.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Stay on topic. We aren't talking about before I'm talking about when we saw Windus skeleton. The only movement from him was him being shocked by electricity. Same with Luke he was being shocked and couldn't do anything to stop it once he was being shocked. So by feats Khan won't be able to move as he is being shocked. Also another example is maul and how he only moved due to flinching in a manner of speaking.

So with that I say to you yoda was neither as he had the force. So he had a weapon and a power. So thus do you understand the force.

Not before Sidious obliterates Khan.

I am staying on relevant topic. When Windu had a weapon he owned the weak SIDS. He got his arm cut off and was weapon less. What did you expect him to do you troll.

Khan shoots him. Windu didn't have a weapon and just had an arm severed. Boom.

Yoda was disarmed and still lost with his force power. That damn shitty force.

Every feat I've seen of Sidious he is too slow for Khan. Based off feats and logic Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am staying on relevant topic. When Windu had a weapon he owned the weak SIDS. He got his arm cut off and was weapon less. What did you expect him to do you troll.

Khan shoots him. Windu didn't have a weapon and just had an arm severed. Boom.

Yoda was disarmed and still lost with his force power. That damn shitty force.

Every feat I've seen of Sidious he is too slow for Khan. Based off feats and logic Khan wins.

Again stay on the topic not a relevant topic the topic. Once Sidious has Khan under lightning all he can do is twitch as that's all any other person under Sidious lightning have done. When windu had a weapon and that was guess what a lightsaber. A lightsaber along side the fact mace had Vaapad o redirect it. Also when it was redirected in Sidious, Sidious was faking all of that anyway so. Luke didn't have his arm cut off, neither did maul and all they did was twitch.

He can't do that if he doesn't have gun which he wouldn't have as Sidious can just take it away from him. Boom.

Whether it is or not he still had the force. Also he didn't lose the force battle. He just fell farther do to him being on the bad end of the pod and weighing less because what happened to yoda happened to Sidious,so there force duel was a stalemate.

Well that you as Sidious has shown and been described as pretty dang fast.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Again stay on the topic not a relevant topic the topic. Once Sidious has Khan under lightning all he can do is twitch as that's all any other person under Sidious lightning have done. When windu had a weapon and that was guess what a lightsaber. A lightsaber along side the fact mace had Vaapad o redirect it. Also when it was redirected in Sidious, Sidious was faking all of that anyway so. Luke didn't have his arm cut off, neither did maul and all they did was twitch.

He can't do that if he doesn't have gun which he wouldn't have as Sidious can just take it away from him. Boom.

Whether it is or not he still had the force. Also he didn't lose the force battle. He just fell farther do to him being on the bad end of the pod and weighing less because what happened to yoda happened to Sidious,so there force duel was a stalemate.

Well that you as Sidious has shown and been described as pretty dang fast.

Khan has a gun. He fires and kills Palpatine. The examples you used are against weapon less foes. Not relevant.

Not based off the evidence. SIDS is too slow to react.

He had bad positioning and lost due to that.

Slower than Khan's weaponry.