Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Originally posted by quanchi112
She didn't engage him

USE YOUR EYES:

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Khan won't even be able to move. He will choke and cry 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
and her attacks or movements took place over a second of time.

No, she was completely frozen, And the second time she tried going for an attack was after Yoda let her go.. Ergo- He wasn't even trying!

But hey, clearly that's not as good as struggling to take down Spock! 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's like a lifetime to someone like Khan with dual wielding guns.

Nah Khan's slow. He can only shoot slow moving Klingons.

Whilst Jedi "can see things before they happen", and have reflexes so fast they can block continuous blaster fire.

Khan will be frozen before he can even think what he wants to do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's the point. Time yodas reactions and they are awful here.

LMAO, he instantly freezes people (with casual ease) who have defeated superhuman beings like General Grievous.

What's Khan's best feat again? Oh yeah cheap shotting featless noobs 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan shoots him dead we'll before Yoda acts.

Prove it troll. Show me Khan shooting faster than the dozens of clone troopers Yoda ripped through.

Also show me Khan resisting Instant Tk.

Oh that's right, I've already asked you to prove this but you can't, so keep trolling 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your ventress clip confirms my claims. Done and done.

"Shall we begin."

My Ventress clip (and that entire episode) is all the evidence I need to continually make a complete fool out of you:

Originally posted by Darth Thor

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Again you compliment yourself LMAO. Do you find it funny nobody else does and laugh as you? Is that why you pat yourself on the back cause it helps you deal with all the ridicule you constantly get for being piss poor at debating?

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This thread has proven he's the Joke of KMC 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch Jango Fett vs. Obi and tell me a skilled combatant is nothing when stacked up against an elite Jedi. I am here to dispel the myths.

jango fett was a human raised by Mandalorians.

he has a good reputation as a incredibly skilled bounty hunter and being raised my Mandalorians would mean he has got some decent skills in going against a jedi (given the whole social relation between them)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Timestamp it. You post a ten minute clip and won't be specific about which arm movement you are referring to. Don't be lazy or more stupid than usual.

I am glad you agree he has human level perception. The flash doesn't get caught by human level punches. His perception is on anitber level unlike the Jedi. Order 66, sport.

You're an imbecile and used to beg me for thanos scans. You're a nobody. You fit in the pack but no one says anything about you either way because you're a ghost. You're flavorless. Teehee.

The Anakin sequence is at 8:06... As you'll notice he brings his horizontal blade from his waist all the way to eye level. That distance is about the same (maybe slightly longer) as from your bent elbow to the end of your fist. Arm movement is arm movement bud. There are no two ways about it.

Terrible analogy No. 500 posted by Quanshe. The flash is EXPONENTIALLY faster than any human and also faster than any Jedi. So him not getting hit proves absolutely nothing. I see you avoided the logical conclusion like the plague. I'll spell it out for you with some questions to see how honest you'll be or how far you'll go to lie

1. Does a human have speed and perception enough to dodge a punch ?

2. Even though they have the speed and perception to dodge a punch, are they always able to?

now just because Kenobi is faster than a human with faster perception.. doesn't mean he can always dodge a punch. We see this in real life. Whitaker is vastly faster than Ramirez. He's like a snail in comparison when it comes to foot movement.. hand speed... agility.. reactions... To boot, Whitaker is one of the most illusive defensive fighters in history. Yet, Ramirez was still able to land on him sometimes i.e. Just because you're clearly faster than somebody doesnt' mean you can't get hit by them.

You didn't answer... Why do you compliment yourself all the time when everybody else is laughing at you? simple question

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

You didn't answer... Why do you compliment yourself all the time when everybody else is laughing at you? simple question

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Seriously though this really is a good question.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
USE YOUR EYES:

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Khan won't even be able to move. He will choke and cry

No, she was completely frozen, And the second time she tried going for an attack was after Yoda let her go.. Ergo- He wasn't even trying!

But hey, clearly that's not as good as struggling to take down Spock!

Nah Khan's slow. He can only shoot slow moving Klingons.

Whilst Jedi "can see things before they happen", and have reflexes so fast they can block continuous blaster fire.

Khan will be frozen before he can even think what he wants to do.

LMAO, he instantly freezes people (with casual ease) who have defeated superhuman beings like General Grievous.

What's Khan's best feat again? Oh yeah cheap shotting featless noobs.

Prove it troll. Show me Khan shooting faster than the dozens of clone troopers Yoda ripped through.

Also show me Khan resisting Instant Tk.

Oh that's right, I've already asked you to prove this but you can't, so keep trolling

My Ventress clip (and that entire episode) is all the evidence I need to continually make a complete fool out of you:

This thread has proven he's the Joke of KMC

Read above. Khan was weaponless and still got the better of Spock who initially had a weapon. 🙂

Multiple Klingons moving in separate directions on top of ships aiding them is somehow less impressive than just Jango stalemating Obi ?

If they can see things before they happen what explanation do you have for order 66 ? Cad bane beating Obi, etc.

Yoda waited seconds before he did so. Watch. Ventress has time to draw his sabers and press. His reflexes are awful. 😂

Yoda had help and faced less foes than Khan did solo. Yoda also planned on when to strike so it was more advantageous for the Jedi. Why didn't tk easily best Jango or Pre ? Do you even watch this stuff ? You seem to just fantasize and make shit up.

I have already explained in full detail this awful reaction feat.

Another flame just because your posts are imaginative based and go against the evidence and how these chasrcters are portrayed.

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Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
jango fett was a human raised by Mandalorians.

he has a good reputation as a incredibly skilled bounty hunter and being raised my Mandalorians would mean he has got some decent skills in going against a jedi (given the whole social relation between them)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The Anakin sequence is at 8:06... As you'll notice he brings his horizontal blade from his waist all the way to eye level. That distance is about the same (maybe slightly longer) as from your bent elbow to the end of your fist. Arm movement is arm movement bud. There are no two ways about it.

Terrible analogy No. 500 posted by Quanshe. The flash is EXPONENTIALLY faster than any human and also faster than any Jedi. So him not getting hit proves absolutely nothing. I see you avoided the logical conclusion like the plague. I'll spell it out for you with some questions to see how honest you'll be or how far you'll go to lie

1. Does a human have speed and perception enough to dodge a punch ?

2. Even though they have the speed and perception to dodge a punch, are they always able to?

now just because Kenobi is faster than a human with faster perception.. doesn't mean he can always dodge a punch. We see this in real life. Whitaker is vastly faster than Ramirez. He's like a snail in comparison when it comes to foot movement.. hand speed... agility.. reactions... To boot, Whitaker is one of the most illusive defensive fighters in history. Yet, Ramirez was still able to land on him sometimes i.e. Just because you're clearly faster than somebody doesnt' mean you can't get hit by them.

You didn't answer... Why do you compliment yourself all the time when everybody else is laughing at you? simple question

That's called being on anitber level perception wise unlike these Jedi. I'm glad you concede.

1. Yes, but their level of perception isn't beyond human movement like the flash. If Jedi were beyond it as you say they'd see them coming a mile away.

2. Due to their level of perception being unflashlike. Thanks for agreeing.

Ramirez maybe more skilled but his level of perception is still the same. That's the point. People in another level of perception aren't in the same league speed wise. All humans in the Star Wars universe are still able to perceive at the same level. Skills and quickness varies but same perception.

I'm amazing. It feels great.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. In this instance just like in Yodas case they need it for gait.

He manipulated schmucks. He also put luke around Vader thus providing the spark to light the Vader match into killing him. Windu also beat him. Then he manipulated Anakin who later killed him. 😂

If your yoda a age than yes you need a cane. You are 800-900 years old. However Dooku was 83 by the time he died and was more than capable of walking without the need of the cane. We also see Sidious walks without it, so thus he doesn't need the cane.

He manipulated the Jedi council, he manipulated Anakin vs Dooku on invisible hand, he manipulated Anakin throughout the whole movie, he manipulated maul, he manipulated his duel with windu, he manipulated vader, he manipulated the entire senate. He's a master manipulator and he and the time to come up,with a plan knowing that the Jedi were coming, knowing Padme is dieng, and knowing Anakin was coming, so he has all the knowledge and tools to manipulate the battle. He's also a better swordsman than mace so he knew he would survive long enough for Anakin to arrive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's a lie. We see the distance traveled is far less than someone extending an arm to punch. They are also facing uncoordinated droids jar jar binks even took out. Arm movement isn't equal you idiot. Different degress, extension, flexlion. It isn't equal at all. Look at 8:14/8:15 in we see Jango easily quicker and kill a Jedi due to blasts.

That's called being on anitber level perception wise unlike these Jedi. I'm glad you concede.

1. Yes, but their level of perception isn't beyond human movement like the flash. If Jedi were beyond it as you say they'd see them coming a mile away.

2. Due to their level of perception being unflashlike. Thanks for agreeing.

Ramirez maybe more skilled but his level of perception is still the same. That's the point. People in another level of perception aren't in the same league speed wise. All humans in the Star Wars universe are still able to perceive at the same level. Skills and quickness varies but same perception.

I'm amazing. It feels great.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Look at the scene again.. Measure from your waist to the middle of your head (this is as far as Anakin had to move his arm) now measure from your elbow to the end of your fist. As you'll notice the distance Anakin covered is greater. Even a short squatty guy like yourself the proportion should still be the same. Measure it and you'll see.

What? Flash has nothing to do with this conversation. Like at all. Nobody is claiming the Jedi have flash like reflexes and perception. It's only your idiocy that is bringing him into the conversation. You failed to address my analogy...

Whitaker is faster, quicker, more agile, better reflexes, better timing and overall better movement than Ramirez. Plus whitaker is one of the best defensive fighters ever. Yet, Ramirez was still able to land blows. Just because you're faster than somebody and quicker doesn't mean you can avoid all punches. Doesn't work that way.

Just view the clip.. He's doing this against some ATG fighters.. not scrubs. This illustrates the point. Just because you're faster and quicker and better perception and reflexes.. doesn't mean you won't get hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw1t2yAK_wU

So complimenting yourself again but still didn't answer the question. Odd.

^ Btw KT, even the Flash gets hit. So Quanchi is just grasping for straws as usual.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have seen and commented on this. Khan needs to press a trigger where she needed to close the distance and attack. Which takes longer ?

Neither because in both scenarios they are Frozen 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Read above. Khan was weaponless and still got the better of Spock who initially had a weapon. 🙂

Spock gave Khan hell. The idea of giving Yoda or even Kenobi hell is outright laughable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Multiple Klingons moving in separate directions on top of ships aiding them is somehow less impressive than just Jango stalemating Obi ?

Cheap shooting them, and with the Klingons fighting Kirk and Spock as well is certainly a lot less impressive than this:

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^ What's really impressive is deflecting all that simultaneous fire power from the Destroyer Droids at 3:03.

Khan is just so out of his league here it's just funny 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
If they can see things before they happen what explanation do you have for order 66 ?

They were cheap shotted. Also point me to Order 66 defeating Yoda please?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cad bane beating Obi, etc.

Kenobi kicked Bane's ass last time they fought. He's also a much more impressive foe than anyone Khan has ever fought.

Bane and Jango can fly. Khan can't. Which is why Kenobi would chop Khan's head off as easily as Mace chopped Jango's head off.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda waited seconds before he did so. Watch. Ventress has time to draw his sabers and press. His reflexes are awful. 😂

LMAO, he already let her go. You're hilarious. I've put evidence in your face and you just keep trolling!

Khan will be frozen. His weapons will go flying out of his hand, then he will choke and cry and everyone here knows it including you 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda had help and faced less foes than Khan did solo.

Oh really:

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1:01-3:10

^ What's really impressive is deflecting all that simultaneous fire power from the Destroyer Droids at 3:03. Khan is so hopelessly outmatched here it's hilarious!

😆 It's so good kicking your ass again and again and again!

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If your yoda a age than yes you need a cane. You are 800-900 years old. However Dooku was 83 by the time he died and was more than capable of walking without the need of the cane. We also see Sidious walks without it, so thus he doesn't need the cane.

He manipulated the Jedi council, he manipulated Anakin vs Dooku on invisible hand, he manipulated Anakin throughout the whole movie, he manipulated maul, he manipulated his duel with windu, he manipulated vader, he manipulated the entire senate. He's a master manipulator and he and the time to come up,with a plan knowing that the Jedi were coming, knowing Padme is dieng, and knowing Anakin was coming, so he has all the knowledge and tools to manipulate the battle. He's also a better swordsman than mace so he knew he would survive long enough for Anakin to arrive.

Yes, he did so under a shroud of secrecy. He also tried to manipulate Luke. He failed. He also failed when vader turned on him. He is a master manipulator but no planning was alluded to. He just used his cunning in the situation he was in after windu beat that ass.

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Look at the scene again.. Measure from your waist to the middle of your head (this is as far as Anakin had to move his arm) now measure from your elbow to the end of your fist. As you'll notice the distance Anakin covered is greater. Even a short squatty guy like yourself the proportion should still be the same. Measure it and you'll see.

What? Flash has nothing to do with this conversation. Like at all. Nobody is claiming the Jedi have flash like reflexes and perception. It's only your idiocy that is bringing him into the conversation. You failed to address my analogy...

Whitaker is faster, quicker, more agile, better reflexes, better timing and overall better movement than Ramirez. Plus whitaker is one of the best defensive fighters ever. Yet, Ramirez was still able to land blows. Just because you're faster than somebody and quicker doesn't mean you can avoid all punches. Doesn't work that way.

Just view the clip.. He's doing this against some ATG fighters.. not scrubs. This illustrates the point. Just because you're faster and quicker and better perception and reflexes.. doesn't mean you won't get hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw1t2yAK_wU

So complimenting yourself again but still didn't answer the question. Odd.

So you concede the point. Perfect. Pats myself on the back.

Whitaker is more highly skilled in boxing. He's also quicker but still without the same realm of perception. You back my point. I've always maintained these points while you've managed to misinterpret my argument from the get go. Shame.

So you admit they can get hit by punches which are slower than lasers thus back my point they will get hit by phaser blasts which are undoubtedly faster.

Concession happily accepted. All your points have been decimated unknowingly by your own ineptitude. 💃

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Btw KT, even the Flash gets hit. So Quanchi is just grasping for straws as usual.

Neither because in both scenarios they are Frozen 😆

Spock gave Khan hell. The idea of giving Yoda or even Kenobi hell is outright laughable.

Cheap shooting them, and with the Klingons fighting Kirk and Spock as well is certainly a lot less impressive than this:

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1:01-3:10

^ What's really impressive is deflecting all that simultaneous fire power from the Destroyer Droids at 3:03.

Khan is just so out of his league here it's just funny 😆

They were cheap shotted. Also point me to Order 66 defeating Yoda please?

Kenobi kicked Bane's ass last time they fought. He's also a much more impressive foe than anyone Khan has ever fought.

Bane and Jango can fly. Khan can't. Which is why Kenobi would chop Khan's head off as easily as Mace chopped Jango's head off.

LMAO, he already let her go. You're hilarious. I've put evidence in your face and you just keep trolling!

Khan will be frozen. His weapons will go flying out of his hand, then he will choke and cry and everyone here knows it including you 😆

Oh really:

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1:01-3:10

^ What's really impressive is deflecting all that simultaneous fire power from the Destroyer Droids at 3:03. Khan is so hopelessly outmatched here it's hilarious!

😆 It's so good kicking your ass again and again and again!

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Flash doesn't get hit by punches against human beings in a fist fight. The point keeps flying over your head. Teehee.

Watch the scene again and ass how many seconds and movements she pulled off before he froze her. Time matters. Evidence, trollio.

Cad Bane beat Obi with a weapon. That's laughable. Khan just crash landed and fought him hand to hand. Yoda needs a cane for simple gait. That's pathetic. Khan was weapon less and still was winning. Weapon less Khan isn't relevant to this thread, Lou.

Did khan cheapshot and kill them all over they could mount an offensive ? Do you know what cheapshot means ?

1:45-1:48 in your flip the droids have yoda in their sights. 3 seconds and they lacked the quickness to fire on someone who sat in their sights for 3 seconds

Next time watch your own video which destroys your own case. Yoda stood there in their scope before moving but to the incompetence of this droid he got away. Let's just say Khan doesn't need three seconds, Lou.

Precognition. They also fought off and blocked some of the blaster fire. Do you know who war works ? Do people stand out in the open ? Are sharpshooters just cheapshotters ?

He still lost and embarrassingly so. He was outmaneuvered by a bounty hunter. Lol.

Not based off the timing of her actions before Yoda did so. Evidence, Lou.

Again 1:45-1:48. It took Yoda three seconds to move when he was dead to rights. 💃

I'm the greatest debater of all time.

Palpatine wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What ?

Blasters are fast, deal with it.

Nah.

Yah?

Palpatine proved it took him seconds to clear that distance and kill the weaker foes. That's slow.

That's faster than featless Khan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Glad you admit yoda needs it. Dooku didn't need one because we never saw him with one. We do see Palaptine with one. Occam's razor.

Yes, he did so under a shroud of secrecy. He also tried to manipulate Luke. He failed. He also failed when vader turned on him. He is a master manipulator but no planning was alluded to. He just used his cunning in the situation he was in after windu beat that ass.

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You wanna know the difference between yoda and Sidious. Sidious was seen with it and not with it while yoda had it all the time. With that Sidious can walk without it. And wats the difference between Sidious and Dooku in age by Dooku in ROTS and Sidious age in ROTJ. I'm going to tell you 5 years. Dooku was 83 and Sidious was 78. So with that why would he need a cane as Dooku was older and didn't need a cane.

Please if he didn't use the force they would have found his sith signature. While he used secrecy he clouded them with the dark side. As stated by yoda, clouded are vision is by the dark side. Well he actually did manipulate Luke but Luke came back. He didn't fail when vader turned on him, there was nothing for him to fail at with vader. He killed vader so. Yes planning was there. He knew the Jedi were coming. He knew Anakins trouble. He had the time in between to retrieve his lightsaber and it gave him enough time in between to think knowing Anakin would come back. Sidious threw the fight.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Blasters are fast, deal with it.

Yah?

That's faster than featless Khan.

Nah.

Hush. Khan wins this thread. I won't go off topic.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You wanna know the difference between yoda and Sidious. Sidious was seen with it and not with it while yoda had it all the time. With that Sidious can walk without it. And wats the difference between Sidious and Dooku in age by Dooku in ROTS and Sidious age in ROTJ. I'm going to tell you 5 years. Dooku was 83 and Sidious was 78. So with that why would he need a cane as Dooku was older and didn't need a cane.

Please if he didn't use the force they would have found his sith signature. While he used secrecy he clouded them with the dark side. As stated by yoda, clouded are vision is by the dark side. Well he actually did manipulate Luke but Luke came back. He didn't fail when vader turned on him, there was nothing for him to fail at with vader. He killed vader so. Yes planning was there. He knew the Jedi were coming. He knew Anakins trouble. He had the time in between to retrieve his lightsaber and it gave him enough time in between to think knowing Anakin would come back. Sidious threw the fight.

The Jedi rely on the shitty force and couldn't figure it out on their own. Awful. Luke defeated him. He did not give in like his sissy daddy. He lost and then manipulated because he needed to. You have no evidence, kiddo.

Originally posted by The Scenario
That's faster than featless Khan.

True.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So So like I said Yoda was more dependent on it. Good, Anakin good.

The Jedi rely on the shitty force and couldn't figure it out on their own. Awful. Luke defeated him. He did not give in like his sissy daddy. He lost and then manipulated because he needed to. You have no evidence, kiddo.

Yes yoda was more dependent as he was 900 YEAR OLD. So with that you agree that Sidious doesn't need the cane.

Because Sidious clouded their vision. No he didn't. His dad was emotionally disturbed. He was afraid for his wife. I can tell you know nothing of family values. He threw the fight. I've given you the evidence.