Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He is resourceful. However he didn't beat kenobi through a pure hand to hand thing. He had to have kenobi be distracted for him to take him down. Kenobi had already dismayed him of his blaster and of a vos' lightsaber. So hand to hand kenobi definitly won. He had bane down way more times than bane had him down.

Well you laugh but more people laugh at you than me and they actaually agree with me.

I don't want your respect. You are respected by hardly anyone on this forum. So,with that I don't need nor want your respect. You have failed to understand the fight between Vizla and kenobi as you keep saying Obi lost when he won. Sidious threw the fight as I've stated my belief and have backed with evidence.

Well I'm going by what I see. Bane was disarmed of a lightsaber as seen in the video. Ahsoka also,did not have a lightsaber thus she was disarmed. This is not a double standard this is just what we see in the fights. So cry all you want but that's the evidence.

I don't state age on public forums. Well see for this particular battle with an vs different opponents, then being force weilders that can easily just ragdoll him and Sidious being much more powerful than any Jedi or Sith can use the force in much more offensive ways and much more powerful ways. Also I've listened to,you, and others about khans abilities and frankly I'm not impressed. The moment khans weapons are gone he loses a lot of fire power. Also,Sidious has force perception and reflexes that khans blast won't be able to hit him. He can also use the force to kill khan with his own weapons or disarm him of his weapons.

Dude, people may loathe me but I'm intelligent. You're just some intellectually challenged kid.

You made up something. You always do because you're a fanboy. You often try to cite eu feats and ignore the rules because you're a brick wall. Sidious lost. Windu beat his ass and Sidious' lightsaber worked.

Bane beat her. Both were disarmed but bane came out on top. Bane won. Force user got wrecked.

You're a kid. You act like your age is a secret. It's obvious. Battle on geonosis. Force wielders were going to lose against shitty droids. 😂

Khan fires first. You haven't seen the film and actually foolishly said your friend told you nonsense.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he did. He showed he was quicker and better. So you believe it's easy to distract Kenobi. All is fair game after the fight begins so he can't focus for shit according to you. Nah, he lost because he was ko'd despite a two on one Jedi vs a bounty hunter.

Dude, people may loathe me but I'm intelligent. You're just some intellectually challenged kid.

You made up something. You always do because you're a fanboy. You often try to cite eu feats and ignore the rules because you're a brick wall. Sidious lost. Windu beat his ass and Sidious' lightsaber worked.

Bane beat her. Both were disarmed but bane came out on top. Bane won. Force user got wrecked.

You're a kid. You act like your age is a secret. It's obvious. Battle on geonosis. Force wielders were going to lose against shitty droids. 😂

Khan fires first. You haven't seen the film and actually foolishly said your friend told you nonsense.

😂

If he was quicker and better than why did he get disarmed twice? For someone who is,better bane got,knocked around a lot and was disarmed way more than Obi. Bane won due to a sneak tactic which while resourceful isn't a straight on hand to hand win.

😂 Oh I'm sorry I was laughing at words in that sentence. 😂 You said you are intelligent. 😂 Oh my gosh. Ok you,are the farthest thing from intelligent. You are an idiot who for some odd reason can't analyze or,comprehend anything to save his own life. Me on the other hand. I'm actually way more intelligent than you, have beaten you in every thread we have been in and show a much better character than you do.

This is what I mean by can't comprehend or analyze anything. Anyone can go an look at that fight and tell that what I'm using as evidence is there. For instance did Sidious have windu at saber point in one time in the fight? To help you understand better, did Sidious have a lightsaber at windus chest? Yes or no is all I want. Post anything else to that I won't read it.

Again due to sneak tactic. I mean if bane were to,just do,a fair fight he would be dead by now. 😂

Well I'm not trying to make it a secret it's just not safe on the Internet. If it's obvious than what is my age? Well in their defense the droids were coming at a constant rate,a nod we have seen a force weilders take out entire armies of droids by themselves. Also the droids had the help of the Genossians. That wasn't even the entire Jedi order. So with that not a bad showing for the Jedi due to the circumstances they were under.

Khan firing first won't mean anything. Also how,do,you know he can ford before Sidious pushes, chokes, shocks, disarms, or,ragdoll said. Then even if he does fire first Sidious can easily dodge it. My friend has seen the films so he knows what's he's talking about.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If he was quicker and better than why did he get disarmed twice? For someone who is,better bane got,knocked around a lot and was disarmed way more than Obi. Bane won due to a sneak tactic which while resourceful isn't a straight on hand to hand win.

😂 Oh I'm sorry I was laughing at words in that sentence. 😂 You said you are intelligent. 😂 Oh my gosh. Ok you,are the farthest thing from intelligent. You are an idiot who for some odd reason can't analyze or,comprehend anything to save his own life. Me on the other hand. I'm actually way more intelligent than you, have beaten you in every thread we have been in and show a much better character than you do.

This is what I mean by can't comprehend or analyze anything. Anyone can go an look at that fight and tell that what I'm using as evidence is there. For instance did Sidious have windu at saber point in one time in the fight? To help you understand better, did Sidious have a lightsaber at windus chest? Yes or no is all I want. Post anything else to that I won't read it.

Again due to sneak tactic. I mean if bane were to,just do,a fair fight he would be dead by now. 😂

Well I'm not trying to make it a secret it's just not safe on the Internet. If it's obvious than what is my age? Well in their defense the droids were coming at a constant rate,a nod we have seen a force weilders take out entire armies of droids by themselves. Also the droids had the help of the Genossians. That wasn't even the entire Jedi order. So with that not a bad showing for the Jedi due to the circumstances they were under.

Khan firing first won't mean anything. Also how,do,you know he can ford before Sidious pushes, chokes, shocks, disarms, or,ragdoll said. Then even if he does fire first Sidious can easily dodge it. My friend has seen the films so he knows what's he's talking about.

Lies. Delusions.

Windu won. You saying he could have won is delusional since he lost. That's a fact.

In a combative situation it's all fair game. They were engaged in a fight and Bane prevailed. A lack of focus is something that can be exploited and a major weakness. 😂

And the Jedi also had the aid of padme. Windu the greatest Jedi along with Anakin (highest midichlorian count), Kenobi, and various other Jedi were outmanned by this pathetic species and droids. Khan himself took out two ships and 20-30 plus Klingons on their home world. You see that's a man while the Jedi looked like boys in comparison against awful opponents.

Based off evidence you haven't seen for yourself because you're going off of someone else's opinion because you're a delusional, biased troll. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jedi and Sith get disarmed but don't necessarily go down because of it. If you don't go down then you're good. Kenobi failed. It'd be better he was disarmed like he was against Fett to not lose than to be ko'd. Your point is that the Jedi was easily distracted while in combat but there is no excuse for a lack of focus, boy.

Lies. Delusions.

Windu won. You saying he could have won is delusional since he lost. That's a fact.

In a combative situation it's all fair game. They were engaged in a fight and Bane prevailed. A lack of focus is something that can be exploited and a major weakness. 😂

And the Jedi also had the aid of padme. Windu the greatest Jedi along with Anakin (highest midichlorian count), Kenobi, and various other Jedi were outmanned by this pathetic species and droids. Khan himself took out two ships and 20-30 plus Klingons on their home world. You see that's a man while the Jedi looked like boys in comparison against awful opponents.

Based off evidence you haven't seen for yourself because you're going off of someone else's opinion because you're a delusional, biased troll. 🙂

My point is bane gets lucky. If Ahsoka wasn't trying to get her lightsaber he would have been captured or killed. If kenobi wasn't starring into space bane would have died or have been captured shooing that force weilders triump over non force weilders they just need to pay attention.

Based off of facts and your reputation.

No me saying he could have won is based on evidence found in the movie. Did he or did he not have windu at sword point?

Bane got lucky twice.

So 2 ships and 20-30 kilgons is the same as hundreds of non stop coming droids along with the help of armed Geonosisans on the Genossian home planet. The Jedi are still human and aren't perfect. Padme is a one person thing she was not major assistance. If she wasn't there the battle would have been just the same.

So his opinion of khan being very fast and strong is now something I can't use. Ok then we'll I guess khan is back to being fearless again. Good job Quan.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
My point is bane gets lucky. If Ahsoka wasn't trying to get her lightsaber he would have been captured or killed. If kenobi wasn't starring into space bane would have died or have been captured shooing that force weilders triump over non force weilders they just need to pay attention.

Based off of facts and your reputation.

No me saying he could have won is based on evidence found in the movie. Did he or did he not have windu at sword point?

Bane got lucky twice.

So 2 ships and 20-30 kilgons is the same as hundreds of non stop coming droids along with the help of armed Geonosisans on the Genossian home planet. The Jedi are still human and aren't perfect. Padme is a one person thing she was not major assistance. If she wasn't there the battle would have been just the same.

So his opinion of khan being very fast and strong is now something I can't use. Ok then we'll I guess khan is back to being fearless again. Good job Quan.

Based off jealousy and envy.

No, he didn't. Windu had him at sword point minus a weapon unable to defend himself.

That's a perspective and a biased claim without proof.

I feel like the two ships and the Klingons in that scene would have defeated the droids, etc. Khan didn't have peers on his side either and took them down with relative ease while the best of the Jedi were present save Yoda. Dooku was not even involved in the battle so this is really a black mark in the Jedi history.

Khan is fearless. I agree. Khan also has amazing feats though. Khan ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sayng he is lucky is a point of view. I can say that about any outcome but that's a perspective not a fact. Speculation.

Based off jealousy and envy.

No, he didn't. Windu had him at sword point minus a weapon unable to defend himself.

That's a perspective and a biased claim without proof.

I feel like the two ships and the Klingons in that scene would have defeated the droids, etc. Khan didn't have peers on his side either and took them down with relative ease while the best of the Jedi were present save Yoda. Dooku was not even involved in the battle so this is really a black mark in the Jedi history.

Khan is fearless. I agree. Khan also has amazing feats though. Khan ftw.

No it's fact. It's fact that if kenobi would have just looked at him the moment the saber was down bane would have been done. That's fact as seen by their fight.

😂 Your funny. Now on a serious note why would I be jealous of you. You have terrible reputation here and lack confidence in yourself. Doesn't sound very good for a lifestyle.

No it's fact based off of evidence.

Jedis are human while khan is a human augment. While Jeff can bolster themselves to superhuman levels they are still human. Then the droids we constantly coming out to them with the aid of armed allies. So the Jedi had a lot to deal with. This is countered by how yoda was able to take on 3 tanks and an army of,battle droids by himself.

Neither won of these afford him victory. There is one feat palpatine has that khan can't counter. Getting ragdolled in which he showed how he ragdolled maul.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
No it's fact. It's fact that if kenobi would have just looked at him the moment the saber was down bane would have been done. That's fact as seen by their fight.

😂 Your funny. Now on a serious note why would I be jealous of you. You have terrible reputation here and lack confidence in yourself. Doesn't sound very good for a lifestyle.

No it's fact based off of evidence.

Jedis are human while khan is a human augment. While Jeff can bolster themselves to superhuman levels they are still human. Then the droids we constantly coming out to them with the aid of armed allies. So the Jedi had a lot to deal with. This is countered by how yoda was able to take on 3 tanks and an army of,battle droids by himself.

Neither won of these afford him victory. There is one feat palpatine has that khan can't counter. Getting ragdolled in which he showed how he ragdolled maul.

Slander.

Speculation.

All the Jedi that were aligned with Windu were not human. Please watch the film because your ignorance is appalling. We see despite the Jedi skills and force powers they were outmatched by the laughable opposition who didn't even include Dooku at this point. Yoda also needed the clones aid to help once the destroyer droids showed up. Hilarious.

That feat didn't occur right out of the gate nor did it defeat him. Khan shoots him. Palpatine doesn't have the power to take down the two ships. 😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Whenever you say had this happened or had that happen that isn't evidence. It is speculation.

Slander.

Speculation.

All the Jedi that were aligned with Windu were not human. Please watch the film because your ignorance is appalling. We see despite the Jedi skills and force powers they were outmatched by the laughable opposition who didn't even include Dooku at this point. Yoda also needed the clones aid to help once the destroyer droids showed up. Hilarious.

That feat didn't occur right out of the gate nor did it defeat him. Khan shoots him. Palpatine doesn't have the power to take down the two ships. 😄

When it's backed by evidence it's fact.

You have marked yourself as a troll and idiot and a terrible debater.

Evidence. 💃

Most were human and others are considered sub human/humanoid. Even the ones that aren't human what physical advantages to they enjoy that would help in that battle. That's why I don't acknowledge them as it wouldn't help. The only Jedi whos physical advantage due to being an alien would be Shaak it due to her horns/tendrils on her head that give her special awareness however that wouldn't help as she has precog just like everyone else there and droids are everywhere. A constant barrage of droids so it's understanable. Yoda actually didn't need their help until the Droidekas showed up. Please aquatint yourself with what the droids names are. He was able to hold them off and take out 3 tanks and droid bettalions/armies by himself. Yoda was awesome.

As seen in that same battle palpatine had him and his brother pinned against their will against glass. It actually did defeat him. He was begging for mercy after that point. So yes it did defeat him. Khan doesn't either. He has weapons that have the power to do that. Take those weapons away what do you have? TIE fighters I don't find to be beyond his capabilities as he was capable of lifting several senate pods at once. Vader was able to lift some serious heavy weight machinery in rebels with ease. So with that a TIE fighter wouldn't be to,hard to lift or take down as Sidious is known, said, considered, and is greater than Vader in every since of the word except height.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
When it's backed by evidence it's fact.

You have marked yourself as a troll and idiot and a terrible debater.

Evidence. 💃

Most were human and others are considered sub human/humanoid. Even the ones that aren't human what physical advantages to they enjoy that would help in that battle. That's why I don't acknowledge them as it wouldn't help. The only Jedi whos physical advantage due to being an alien would be Shaak it due to her horns/tendrils on her head that give her special awareness however that wouldn't help as she has precog just like everyone else there and droids are everywhere. A constant barrage of droids so it's understanable. Yoda actually didn't need their help until the Droidekas showed up. Please aquatint yourself with what the droids names are. He was able to hold them off and take out 3 tanks and droid bettalions/armies by himself. Yoda was awesome.

As seen in that same battle palpatine had him and his brother pinned against their will against glass. It actually did defeat him. He was begging for mercy after that point. So yes it did defeat him. Khan doesn't either. He has weapons that have the power to do that. Take those weapons away what do you have? TIE fighters I don't find to be beyond his capabilities as he was capable of lifting several senate pods at once. Vader was able to lift some serious heavy weight machinery in rebels with ease. So with that a TIE fighter wouldn't be to,hard to lift or take down as Sidious is known, said, considered, and is greater than Vader in every since of the word except height.

You just described yourself. Congrats.

Speculation. You'll never understand the difference.

So all weren't human so I exposed your lie. Prove they were less than human. You made another baseless claim. The droids looked awful in combat and we don't see overwhelming fire. In fact I deemed the opposition as downright pathetic. So Jedi all have the same special abilities thus downplaying the different species and destroying your own point.

No, I don't need to learn these awful names for the shitbag droids.

Yes, he hurt them with tk but in no, way, shape, or form defeated either with tk. He killed Opress with his saber and disarmed Maul with his sabers.

Khan fires first. The evidence you're unfamiliar with due to self admitted ignorance probes that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you didn't prove it you made a baseless claim without any evidence.

You just described yourself. Congrats.

Speculation. You'll never understand the difference.

So all weren't human so I exposed your lie. Prove they were less than human. You made another baseless claim. The droids looked awful in combat and we don't see overwhelming fire. In fact I deemed the opposition as downright pathetic. So Jedi all have the same special abilities thus downplaying the different species and destroying your own point.

No, I don't need to learn these awful names for the shitbag droids.

Yes, he hurt them with tk but in no, way, shape, or form defeated either with tk. He killed Opress with his saber and disarmed Maul with his sabers.

Khan fires first. The evidence you're unfamiliar with due to self admitted ignorance probes that.

Nah, I used evidence.

Oh poor Quan who has no confidence and attempts to go up against opponents who clearly outmatch him. This is why both Voldemort and khan have lost their battles.

I understand the difference. It's you who will never learn the difference.

It wasn't a lie it was a mistake and oversight on my part. Luminara unduli, she has human characteristics and appearance. She doesn't show any physical capabilities that a force embedded human can't do. She is considered humanoid she is just green. Humanoid not completely human. Lies. We don't see any overwhelming firepower? What do you call boasters from every direction with hundreds to thousands of droids coming at a constant rate? That's overwhelming. Your distaste for Jedi is your own problem and explains why you hate on them so much.

Yes you do if you are to be a slightly better debater. At least attempt to make yourself appear smart.

It's a shame. Just because you are disarmed doesn't necessarily mean you are defeated. For example Maul vs Pre Vizla. Maul was disarmed of his saber yet he still won his battle. This shows that just because you are disarmed you can still fight. So yes maul was defeated by TK begging for mercy after Sidious ragdolled him.

Again him firing first is not a game decoder. Yoda or Palpatine can easily dodge it or disarm him of his weapons and then yoda could defiantly use tutamins.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Nah, I used evidence.

Oh poor Quan who has no confidence and attempts to go up against opponents who clearly outmatch him. This is why both Voldemort and khan have lost their battles.

I understand the difference. It's you who will never learn the difference.

It wasn't a lie it was a mistake and oversight on my part. Luminara unduli, she has human characteristics and appearance. She doesn't show any physical capabilities that a force embedded human can't do. She is considered humanoid she is just green. Humanoid not completely human. Lies. We don't see any overwhelming firepower? What do you call boasters from every direction with hundreds to thousands of droids coming at a constant rate? That's overwhelming. Your distaste for Jedi is your own problem and explains why you hate on them so much.

Yes you do if you are to be a slightly better debater. At least attempt to make yourself appear smart.

It's a shame. Just because you are disarmed doesn't necessarily mean you are defeated. For example Maul vs Pre Vizla. Maul was disarmed of his saber yet he still won his battle. This shows that just because you are disarmed you can still fight. So yes maul was defeated by TK begging for mercy after Sidious ragdolled him.

Again him firing first is not a game decoder. Yoda or Palpatine can easily dodge it or disarm him of his weapons and then yoda could defiantly use tutamins.

You're an idiot.

Delusions.

So you admit you were wrong to me. Amazing. You're weak.

I don't see thousands of droids or enemies. You're lying. Humanoids doesn't equate humans. I know that doesn't always mean that but he was left at his mercy by force Lightning with no lightsabers. He had no weapon to defend himself. Tk at no point defeated him.

Based on what ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No.

You're an idiot.

Delusions.

So you admit you were wrong to me. Amazing. You're weak.

I don't see thousands of droids or enemies. You're lying. Humanoids doesn't equate humans. I know that doesn't always mean that but he was left at his mercy by force Lightning with no lightsabers. He had no weapon to defend himself. Tk at no point defeated him.

Based on what ?

Yea.

Stop describing yourself.

You seem to have those a lot.

So you admit I was right about the other points however. I'm strong your weak. I'm tall your short. I'm smart your dumb. I'm right your wrong.

I didn't say it equals human I said humanoid which have human like attributes or appearance. I explicitly said humanoids not humans showing how I show the difference. So now you are lieing. TK did defeat him. Just because you don't shave weapons doesn't mean that you're defeated as evidence by how maul beat pre without a sober but with his bare hands. Sidious made him beg for mercy after he had been ragdolled. He had the force. He could lance attempted to use a force push so no he wasn't defenseless.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yea.

Stop describing yourself.

You seem to have those a lot.

So you admit I was right about the other points however. I'm strong your weak. I'm tall your short. I'm smart your dumb. I'm right your wrong.

I didn't say it equals human I said humanoid which have human like attributes or appearance. I explicitly said humanoids not humans showing how I show the difference. So now you are lieing. TK did defeat him. Just because you don't shave weapons doesn't mean that you're defeated as evidence by how maul beat pre without a sober but with his bare hands. Sidious made him beg for mercy after he had been ragdolled. He had the force. He could lance attempted to use a force push so no he wasn't defenseless.

Denial.

Have what a lot ?

No, you weren't right. You don't even know what a baseless claim. It's trying to have an intellectual discussion with a five year old. You just don't grasp it.

Appearance doesn't mean equal thus you undermined your own point. It's lying. No, disarming him did. That's what left him vulnerable not tk. Pre didn't have force Lightning that he could exploit a saberless Maul with.

Maul had the force as well. 😂

Palpatine is greater skilled and more knowledgeable than Maul. No shame there. Maul took him right on.

Khan wins though. He's superior to the Windu whipping boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No.

Denial.

Have what a lot ?

No, you weren't right. You don't even know what a baseless claim. It's trying to have an intellectual discussion with a five year old. You just don't grasp it.

Appearance doesn't mean equal thus you undermined your own point. It's lying. No, disarming him did. That's what left him vulnerable not tk. Pre didn't have force Lightning that he could exploit a saberless Maul with.

Maul had the force as well. 😂

Palpatine is greater skilled and more knowledgeable than Maul. No shame there. Maul took him right on.

Khan wins though. He's superior to the Windu whipping boy.

Yea.

Your always in denial.

Once again you are wrong about my age. I was right you just can't accept the fact you have been beaten again.

He disarmed him yes but maul didn't beg for mercy until after he got ragdolled. Again even if you don't have weapons doesn't mean you are defeated. Especially in the case of Star Wars characters as they have the force. If your disarmed the only way you would be defeated is if you have no other way of attacking or defending. Maul had the force. He clueless have used it to possibly push Sidious or use it another way. So yes maul lost due to TK.

And lost badly. Sidious was toying around the whole time. Then maul had help from his brother as well. Shame.

Opinion. A terribly represented opinion. Well that would interest me if windu were better than palpatine. Even then palpatine can just ragdoll khan as he has no defense to the force.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yea.

Your always in denial.

Once again you are wrong about my age. I was right you just can't accept the fact you have been beaten again.

He disarmed him yes but maul didn't beg for mercy until after he got ragdolled. Again even if you don't have weapons doesn't mean you are defeated. Especially in the case of Star Wars characters as they have the force. If your disarmed the only way you would be defeated is if you have no other way of attacking or defending. Maul had the force. He clueless have used it to possibly push Sidious or use it another way. So yes maul lost due to TK.

And lost badly. Sidious was toying around the whole time. Then maul had help from his brother as well. Shame.

Opinion. A terribly represented opinion. Well that would interest me if windu were better than palpatine. Even then palpatine can just ragdoll khan as he has no defense to the force.

Irony.

Ridiculousness.

Maul knew at this point he was defenseless and beaten due to his weapons being taken away. Palpatine was greater with the force so his only chance was with a saber. Luke was also defenseless and at Sheev's mercy without a saber. Same obviousness.

He lost when he was disarmed due to why I just stated in the last paragraph.

Windu won. Accept it. Khan doesn't need the force to beat this weakling. Khan has weapons he designed not some magical power source he needs to connect to. Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah.

Irony.

Ridiculousness.

Maul knew at this point he was defenseless and beaten due to his weapons being taken away. Palpatine was greater with the force so his only chance was with a saber. Luke was also defenseless and at Sheev's mercy without a saber. Same obviousness.

He lost when he was disarmed due to why I just stated in the last paragraph.

Windu won. Accept it. Khan doesn't need the force to beat this weakling. Khan has weapons he designed not some magical power source he needs to connect to. Khan wins.

Yea.

No. In the world of Star Wars if you are weapon less meaning you don't have any lightsaber you can still fight. Hand to hand combat as seen by maul vs pre Vizla. Also the force. So just because you don't have a weapon you can still fight. He begged for mercy after getting TK'd.

He lost when he got TK'd. Being beaten means every option has been exhausted and you can't win anymore of have no chance of winning. He still had the force and hand to and combat.

Windu lost accept that. Who got thrown out the window? The problem with those weapons, they can be taken away while Palaptines connection can't be severed at least not by khan. So there powers and weapons aren't just limitless in Khans case as they can be taken away while Sidious can keep going. Sheev wins with such ease. 10/10 win for Sheev.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yea.

No. In the world of Star Wars if you are weapon less meaning you don't have any lightsaber you can still fight. Hand to hand combat as seen by maul vs pre Vizla. Also the force. So just because you don't have a weapon you can still fight. He begged for mercy after getting TK'd.

He lost when he got TK'd. Being beaten means every option has been exhausted and you can't win anymore of have no chance of winning. He still had the force and hand to and combat.

Windu lost accept that. Who got thrown out the window? The problem with those weapons, they can be taken away while Palaptines connection can't be severed at least not by khan. So there powers and weapons aren't just limitless in Khans case as they can be taken away while Sidious can keep going. Sheev wins with such ease. 10/10 win for Sheev.

Maul had the force and Pre didn't so this comparison is irrelevant to Palpatine who had his weapons, greater force powers, and greater skill.

He was defenseless. Palaptine begged for mercy after he was disarmed and took some force lightning. Anakin helped. That's why he died.

Khan guns down the overconfident Sheev. You haven't watched the film so you're clueless.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah.

Maul had the force and Pre didn't so this comparison is irrelevant to Palpatine who had his weapons, greater force powers, and greater skill.

He was defenseless. Palaptine begged for mercy after he was disarmed and took some force lightning. Anakin helped. That's why he died.

Khan guns down the overconfident Sheev. You haven't watched the film so you're clueless.

Palpatine having lightsabers is completely irrelevant to this point. I'm proving that just because you don't have weapons that doesn't mean you are defeated. Maul still had the force and his hands and feet so he can still fight.

He still had the force as seen by palpatine using force lightning on the mace and how he threw mace out of a window with it.

He has to get to Sheev first. Sheev is to fast and has precog. Also his overconfidence won't necessarily if at all give Khan the win. Sheev has to much power that Khan can't handle.

Palpatine stomps with ease

Palps wins even easier than the poll suggests