No, Jacen used the Force to block Turbolaser fire and I don't think you realize how powerful turbolaser firepower is. Technical manuals say that the Acclamator's turbolaser firepower is 200 Gigatons, which is enough power to blow up entire Islands and leave a crater that's hundreds of kilometers wide.
Originally posted by The Merchant
No, Jacen used the Force to block Turbolaser fire and I don't think you realize how powerful turbolaser firepower is. Technical manuals say that the Acclamator's turbolaser firepower is 200 Gigatons, which is enough power to blow up entire Islands and leave a crater that's hundreds of kilometers wide.
Mind you, a lot of people say this in bunk and inconsistent with other information due to that level of firepower not being seen even in planetary bombardments.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The word "powerful" is thrown around so easily these days by fans, is their an official source which promotes Maladi as a powerful Force-user?
She's one of Krayt's inner circle (equivalent to dark council/jedi council/etc., and Nihl viewed getting involved with her as likely to result in mutual destruction) and uses Memory Walk, a fairly considerable ability. The Legacy era Campaign Guide describes her as 'Extremely Skilled' IMO.
Pretty much anyone council-level can be reasonable described as 'powerful', IMO.
Any Jedi or Sith Master level being is "powerful" imo.
Originally posted by Q99
Mind you, a lot of people say this in bunk and inconsistent with other information due to that level of firepower not being seen even in planetary bombardments.
Also obviously a gunships turbolasers aren't going to even compare to those mounted on a capital ship like an Acclamator.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Prophesy isn't worthless, the individual who fulfills the prophesy is not necessarily supposed to be a godlike being.Anakin had that kind of potential but he never peaked, his story was a tragedy.
By the way:
Discovered as a slave on Tatooine by Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker had the potential to become one of the most powerful Jedi ever, and was believed by some to be the prophesized Chosen One who would bring balance to the Force. (From official website of Star Wars, now under Disney)
Similarly, Bane became a powerful Force-user, a standout of his era, fulfilled the prophesy. However, he wasn't supposed to be a godlike being and he isn't.
All beings of prophecy have been incredibly power at the highest level: Anakin, HoT, Bane, Sidious.
Bane did achieve his potential. He's one of the most powerful Sith ever.
Lol @ using new canon info.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
So you think that Bane is as strong as Sidious?
Yes. What area's does Sidious destroy him in? His physical abilities are just as good, his lightning is every bit Sidious' equal, he's got crazy good TK, he can resist Sidious' telepathy etc.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You are not presenting the whole picture;1. Barsen'thor learned a special shielding technique with which she could resist influence (plague) of Lord Vivcar unlike other Jedi.
2. Barsen'thor freed many Jedi from influence of Lord Vivcar prior to confronting him, effectively shortening the supply of reserves of Lord Vivcar.
3. Barsen'thor wounded Lord Vivcar during battle and ended the influence of Morrhage's ghost on Parkanas Tank, effectively ending the battle.
Now, there is a possibility that Barsen'thor wounded Lord Vivicar with use of a lightsaber. In addition, Lord Vivicar wasn't a master of Force-walking ritual, he couldn't draw on the power of Force ghosts to fuel his own power like Darth Nox. Lord Vivicar is basically a host possessed by Force ghost of Terrak Morrhage. Fundamental difference in both developments.
Neph, it is always wise to focus on the ground realities and not on black & white notions. You cannot prove that Lord Vivcar is anywhere close to Darth Nox in power.
1. So what? That doesn't make him any less powerful. All it means is that they two engaged in a standard duel.
2. She freed 5 Jedi. Vivicar infected hundreds.
3. She beat Vivicar in battle. Proving that even weakened she could beat Vivicar who was amped on hundreds of Jedi Masters.
What does it matter how she beat him? Besides, the Barsen'thor primarily fights with the Force, not a lightsaber. Vivicar not being a Force Walker proves nothing, he was still channeling his victims power. Vivicar being possessed by Morrhage only means Parkanus' power was augmented by Morrhages as well. One of your near-infinitely powerful Force ghosts. 🙄
I'm not sure I'd say Vivicar was that close to Nox in power. But the Barsen'thor is. She defeated him despite being weakened and after fighting through sorcery-enhanced troops.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Put them back to sleep? What nonsense is this. Force ghosts are restless entities and they cannot be put back to sleep like you are claiming. Anybody who ventures in to Dark Temple, learns a lesson the hard way.Emperor Vitiate is the only Force-user in the galaxy who managed to control Force ghosts within Dark Temple, no other individual could pull this off. So yes, Emperor Vitiate was logically under greater pressure while confronting HoT for the second time on top of being weakened by the disruption of his most ambitious ritual. Once again, HoT's victory of Emperor Vitiate is a product of circumstances, not indicative of HoT's incredible power. Don't get me wrong, HoT is incredibly powerful as noted by Emperor Vitiate himself but he isn't a match for the mighty Sith, a godlike being, in a fair setting. No Jedi is.
Someone didn't pay attention in TOR. The spirits in the Dark Temple were slumbering until the excavation team disturbed them. Vitiate could easily have just subdued them again. Theres absolutely nothing indicating he needed to consciously suppress them. If he did, why didn't they attack the Hero as they fled the temple after Vitiates death?
Luke is.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No, your assessment is misplaced.
Luke > Unuthul, a being drawing on the power of millions of kiliks, how is my assessment misplaced?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
🙄You are not making any sense here. As good as Kun is, he will not match the combined might of like 5 or 6 formidable practitioners of the dark side, 4 of these are Force ghosts. Force ghosts are powerful manifestations of energy, different in nature from a sentient being but have virtually limit-less energy.
Yes he is.
And LOLWUT? Near-limitless energy??? If you actually played the Inquisitor campaign you'd know that Kallig's ghost needs to constantly rest because of how little power he can actually use. Spirits usually aren't as powerful as they were in life.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I recommend you to read about Force spirits in [B]Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia, then get back to me.[/b]
Force spirits are dangerous because their nature makes the difficult to affect with the Force and hard for you to block their power. They're not any more powerful than as they would be in life.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And you know this how?Even if we assume that these Force-users are stronger then Thanaton on individual basis (I doubt everybody is), this still doesn't confirms that they are a match for Nox's amplified form.
Feats and their respective power.
All of them are above Thanaton. All of them have the feats to suggest a comparison with Nox. Jadus' feat is more powerful than anything Nox has shown, Malgus choked 3 of the Strike Team at once, the Barsen'thor defeated Vivicar and the First Son, the Wrath defeated the Voice etc.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Yes, every being have limits. However, I am not sure if Nox's amplified form should be used to compare him with mortals naturally strong in the Force.Do not forget that Nox is also powerful in the ways of the Force, without use of Force ghosts, he isn't a chump without such amplification and he is stupendously powerful with amplification.
Well I'm sure and it should be. Mortals have demonstrated equal to or greater Force power than Nox has.
Many people are stupendously powerful in Star Wars. Nox isn't alone in that regard.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vader also blocked turbolaser canon fire, so Luke being greater then Vader is indicative of him being greater then amplified Nox? Makes no sense to me.Here is a fact: Luke have limits too. Lord Nyax proved this and he is touted to be one of the most powerful dark jedi of his era, nothing immense.
I don't recall Vader ever blocking turbolaser fire and Vader is hugely powerful and a possible peer of Nox's. Regardless, yes Luke being more powerful than Vader does make him above Nox.
Wasn't Nyax juggling starships or something? The dude WAS immensely powerful.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Evidence of few days claim?I am not suggesting that Bane wasn't even in fighting form. He certainly was strong when he confronted Zannah but not at his peak strength and condition.
My focus is on ground realities on the whole, my assessment isn't outlandish by any stretch of imagination.
I've read the book dude. Bane goes to a few places, does a few things and the whole book only takes a few days to occur.
So what? Even in his slightly weakened condition he was an amazingly powerful fighter. He'd barely diminished. He'd still take Nox.
No, your opinions are pretty crazy sometimes.
Top-KEK.
Absolutely nothing suggests Naga Sadow or Nadd even visited Malachor, let alone studied there.
Based on quotes from KotOR 2 and Chronicles, much of Malachor's power can be linked to Vitiate's Empire not Sadow's.
Plus your forgetting Revan was literally inside Vitiate's mind for 300 years.
Basically, nothing but 100% speculation on your part even puts Sadow or Nadd close to Revan's knowledge on rituals.
Accept it. 👆